Well this came up in my 'feed' and as STALKER is on my list of all time >classic games I thought I'd take a peek. The first thing that struck me
was why is a game available for pre-order when its release date is
December 2023. Who do they think is going to pre-order now not really
knowing what they're are actually going to get especially as the
Ultimate edition is £95.
The next ones are possibly me just being jaded with the games industry
as a whole. So depending on which bundle you buy you can get an
additional story and two future story expansions. I really hoping this
isn't going to be a case of develop one game, cut it up into pieces and
then sell them individually.
The second, multiplayer and skins. This is one that I have most concerns >about as it smacks of the focus won't be on the single player experience
but instead flogging you things in MP.
Now I hope that this is just me being cynical but I really don't want to
see this franchise ruined.
Remember when you'd buy a game and get all these little extras
On 6/15/2022 8:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Remember when you'd buy a game and get all these little extras
like a completed game?
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:18:00 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 6/15/2022 8:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Remember when you'd buy a game and get all these little extras
like a completed game?
hehe. man, those were the days my friend, ....
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 20:26:22 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson ><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 11:44:56 -0600, PW >><iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:18:00 -0700, Dimensional Traveler >>><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 6/15/2022 8:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Remember when you'd buy a game and get all these little extras
like a completed game?
hehe. man, those were the days my friend, ....
Now, let's be fair. A lot of games 'back in the day' were released in >>unfinished states too. It's just that -between the immaturity of the >>industry and the lack of easy communications between gamers- a lot of
those problems went unnoticed or uncommented on. But there were
numerous big-name projects led by triple-A studios (e.g., Sierra
Online's infamouse "Outpost" space-strategy game) that were put out
onto market long before they were complete.
Of course, back then it was mostly an issue of poor project management
or a lack of resources; nowadays an unfinished product being sold to >>customers is often part of the business plan. So maybe you have a
point ;-)
*--
I added it to keep my other Dagerfall games company. But didn't
install it. Wait, maybe I don't have any others. Oh yes, Elder
Scrolls series.
It reminds me of Blood Fresh Supply which I have played off and on. It
is very retro looking like this one and pretty fun.
-pw
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 11:44:56 -0600, PW
<iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:18:00 -0700, Dimensional Traveler >><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 6/15/2022 8:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Remember when you'd buy a game and get all these little extras
like a completed game?
hehe. man, those were the days my friend, ....
Now, let's be fair. A lot of games 'back in the day' were released in >unfinished states too. It's just that -between the immaturity of the
industry and the lack of easy communications between gamers- a lot of
those problems went unnoticed or uncommented on. But there were
numerous big-name projects led by triple-A studios (e.g., Sierra
Online's infamouse "Outpost" space-strategy game) that were put out
onto market long before they were complete.
Of course, back then it was mostly an issue of poor project management
or a lack of resources; nowadays an unfinished product being sold to >customers is often part of the business plan. So maybe you have a
point ;-)
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 10:53:14 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
Well this came up in my 'feed' and as STALKER is on my list of all time
classic games I thought I'd take a peek. The first thing that struck me
was why is a game available for pre-order when its release date is
December 2023. Who do they think is going to pre-order now not really
knowing what they're are actually going to get especially as the
Ultimate edition is £95.
Well, STALKER 2 has been in development for a while, and its release
date has slipped numerous times. Maybe they started selling pre-orders
back when they thought the game was going to come out in 2021 and just
never took them down even as the release date kept getting pushed
further and further back? Why turn away free money from rubes^h^h^h^h
loyal customers? ;-)
The next ones are possibly me just being jaded with the games industry
as a whole. So depending on which bundle you buy you can get an
additional story and two future story expansions. I really hoping this
isn't going to be a case of develop one game, cut it up into pieces and
then sell them individually.
The second, multiplayer and skins. This is one that I have most concerns
about as it smacks of the focus won't be on the single player experience
but instead flogging you things in MP.
Remember when you'd buy a game and get all these little extras - like
bonus custumes - for free (usually unlocked by completing challenges
or the game)? Pepperidge farm remembers...
Now I hope that this is just me being cynical but I really don't want to
see this franchise ruined.
I was never the most ardent fan of the series. I enjoyed it - the
third game the most - but considered it a flawed product that never
quite earned the praise it garnered. Its weird AI, the wonky
animations, the poor localizations, the uneven game balance and
pacing, the world broken up into disparate maps... the STALKER series
had vision and creativity, but not the necessary polish to make it an entirely enjoyable game.
Given this foundation, and STALKER 2's trouble development, I'm not
sure that it will be microtransactions that will be the game's biggest problems.
Either way, I'm not going to bother with a pre-order. The game will be
out when its out, and if it's any good, then I'll consider laying down
money for the game. Until then, there's enough to keep me busy.
On 15/06/2022 16:15, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Remember when you'd buy a game and get all these little extras - like
bonus custumes - for free (usually unlocked by completing challenges
or the game)? Pepperidge farm remembers...
First up, Pepperidge farm - I googled it but that's a reference that
still goes over my head!
On 6/16/2022 2:48 AM, JAB wrote:
On 15/06/2022 16:15, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Remember when you'd buy a game and get all these little extras - like
bonus custumes - for free (usually unlocked by completing challenges
or the game)? Pepperidge farm remembers...
First up, Pepperidge farm - I googled it but that's a reference that
still goes over my head!
I suspect that the company at some point did an ad campaign about how
they remembered how good the old days were and made cookies that way.
I suspect that the company at some point did an ad campaign about how
they remembered how good the old days were and made cookies that way.
Oh, is that its origins? I heard it from some TV show (the Simpsons
maybe) and it just stuck in my head.
But back to the topic at hand:
I don't want to 'diss' too much on STALKER; it was a fun game and - as
I said - it had a lot of good ideas. Its ambition alone may merit it a
place as one of the classics. But its often held up as a flawless masterpiece, and the game was anything but. As such, the idea that
STALKER 2 will automatically be a great game is something I look at
with great suspicion, especially given the sequels rocky development.
It may be great; I'd be thrilled if it were great. But I think it
could just as easily be terrible.
As such, I can't recommend investing oneself into the game until it
actually releases. Especially since the original isn't a game that
really demanded a sequel, and other games have taken up the mantle and offered similar takes on the formula it created. So, if it comes out
and it's an awesome game, that's wonderful. But if it never comes out,
that's okay too.
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