• The Wargamer website - my Friday mini-rant.

    From JAB@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 10 10:18:36 2022
    Well it's about time I had a mini-rant so here goes. Oh and I blame
    Spalls for making a post about reusing IP.

    The Wargamer website has been around for as long as I can remember and
    as the name suggests it concentrated on table top and digital wargames.
    Boy how things have changed.

    It was sold off several years ago and nothing really changed at least
    from the outside. Last year though was a bit different, it got a
    makeover (nothing wrong with that) and said it was going expand its
    remit to include more table top games (nothing wrong with that either I thought). Yes you had some of the gronads moaning but my thoughts where
    very much, move with the times granddad. Well I was wrong and the site
    is pretty much now unrecognisable as it's dominated by D&D, Warhammer
    40k and Magic The Gathering.

    Now there's nothing wrong with having a website like that, the problem
    is that it replaced the one I used.

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to JAB on Fri Jun 10 11:43:06 2022
    On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 10:18:36 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    Well it's about time I had a mini-rant so here goes. Oh and I blame
    Spalls for making a post about reusing IP.

    The Wargamer website has been around for as long as I can remember and
    as the name suggests it concentrated on table top and digital wargames.
    Boy how things have changed.

    It was sold off several years ago and nothing really changed at least
    from the outside. Last year though was a bit different, it got a
    makeover (nothing wrong with that) and said it was going expand its
    remit to include more table top games (nothing wrong with that either I >thought). Yes you had some of the gronads moaning but my thoughts where
    very much, move with the times granddad. Well I was wrong and the site
    is pretty much now unrecognisable as it's dominated by D&D, Warhammer
    40k and Magic The Gathering.

    Now there's nothing wrong with having a website like that, the problem
    is that it replaced the one I used.

    I can't comment on the change in content (being a D&D grognard myself,
    I like the idea of more D&D commentary... though I could do without
    any of those card-tossing MtG weirdos ;-) but I really hate when
    websites change their design. /ESPECIALLY/ when they 'update' its
    appearance to something more modern. I know this will probably
    surprise everyone to learn that I - someone who adores Usenet for its
    lack of functionality - have a soft-spot in my heart for old-school
    web-design too. Javascript? Who needs it? Give me a few .GIFs and
    <bold> tags and we're good to go!

    The really sad part is that often these modernizations are the first indications of an attempt to change a site from something created out
    of love for the topic (or hobby) and into something designed to make
    money. Being particularly old-school, there's still a part of me that
    rejects any idea of commercializing the Internet (yeah, I know, that
    boat has long sailed). It just saddens me that too often people can't
    be bothered to create something unless there's a profit in it for
    them, and transformations like the one described above are just a
    reminder of how far from its original ideals the Internet has strayed.

    Well, here's hoping you'll find a replacement for Wargamer. It's hard
    to lose a favored hangout. And when you do find your new community,
    here's hoping it can resist the urge towards increasing its userbase
    and moving towards the dreaded goal of 'profitability', at least for a
    while.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Jun 10 09:13:05 2022
    On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 8:43:24 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    The really sad part is that often these modernizations are the first indications of an attempt to change a site from something created out
    of love for the topic (or hobby) and into something designed to make
    money. Being particularly old-school, there's still a part of me that
    rejects any idea of commercializing the Internet (yeah, I know, that
    boat has long sailed). It just saddens me that too often people can't
    be bothered to create something unless there's a profit in it for
    them, and transformations like the one described above are just a
    reminder of how far from its original ideals the Internet has strayed.

    Dragonsfoot.org changed a couple years ago, but it was more a security
    update to newer web forums. I preferred the old look and utility, but
    it didn't change the discussions.

    - Justisaur

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sun Jun 12 11:00:21 2022
    On 10/06/2022 17:13, Justisaur wrote:
    On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 8:43:24 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    The really sad part is that often these modernizations are the first
    indications of an attempt to change a site from something created out
    of love for the topic (or hobby) and into something designed to make
    money. Being particularly old-school, there's still a part of me that
    rejects any idea of commercializing the Internet (yeah, I know, that
    boat has long sailed). It just saddens me that too often people can't
    be bothered to create something unless there's a profit in it for
    them, and transformations like the one described above are just a
    reminder of how far from its original ideals the Internet has strayed.

    Dragonsfoot.org changed a couple years ago, but it was more a security
    update to newer web forums. I preferred the old look and utility, but
    it didn't change the discussions.


    I have seen that on another site and there the reason given was just
    that the software used for the forum was so old it was becoming
    increasingly difficult to maintain it.

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