• Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017)

    From Justisaur@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 3 16:45:19 2022
    Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2017, EA)

    I decided to give this a try again. Last time was about 9 months ago,
    and I couldn't even get it to load. Maybe it was my old video card not
    being up to it?

    Anyway it loaded. I just finished the solo campaign which I highly
    enjoyed. You get to play a variety of characters throughout including a
    bit with Luke, a bit with Leia, a bit with Han, a bit with Lando, a bit
    as Kylo. Most of it is as a new Empire special forces character
    though.

    I wish there was more of that. Only a couple days worth of play there.
    So I moved on to multiplayer. There's at least a co-op mode, which I've
    read is the place to start for newbies. I'm not sure if I'm actually
    fighting against other players, or just NPCs, but it's kind of fun.
    However there's upgrades you need to buy/unlock by getting levels with different characters, and there seems to be a problem doing that.
    I keep getting errors that 'the transaction can't be completed.'

    I got one once, but that's it, it keeps failing now. I looked this
    up and apparently it's a server side issue that they can't handle
    the number of people playing. So still not really playable,
    but if you want a short fps type star wars campaign with a bit of
    starfighter play too, I'd recommend installing it if you have it from
    the free epic/origin giveaway.

    The epic/origin launching is a mess. You have to have both open,
    launch it from origin, then it goes and checks the epic client,
    then opens it if you're lucky, it may take some retries, and
    have to give it a couple minutes to launch.

    It also took a good 5 minutes to load the campaign after I hit
    play on it the first time, it was fine after that, though a
    little slow loading in general.

    - Justisaur

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 3 20:10:07 2022
    Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2017, EA)

    I'll bump this one up the play list (for the campaign), thanks! Along
    with titanfall 2 :)

    rms

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Fri Jun 3 22:50:07 2022
    I still have my original retail Battlefront games. :O


    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 4 13:08:42 2022
    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 20:10:07 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
    wrote:

    Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2017, EA)

    I'll bump this one up the play list (for the campaign), thanks! Along
    with titanfall 2 :)


    I enjoyed the campaign, but more because of the setting than the
    gameplay, which was... well, not awful, but it didn't really
    memorable. The FPS bits were quite forgettable; the flight-sim bits
    were far more enjoyable, although they were hampered by how limited
    they felt (both in the scale of the maps and the capabilities of the
    simulator. "Star Wars Squadrons" those missions are not).

    The visuals were nice, though; I still think the Endor levels are the
    current high-point for PC games graphics fidelity. All the
    photogrammetery of the undergrowth really paid off.

    Still, if you're not a Star Wars fan, I can't think of any reason to
    play the game.

    I should play "Titanfall 2" again, though. Overall I wasn't that
    impressed with the game, but that time-warp level was something
    else...

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Jun 4 18:12:38 2022
    On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:50:13 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    I still have my original retail Battlefront games. :O
    Justisaur <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2017, EA)

    I have the Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2005) game on steam, never tried it.
    I'm installing it now. Not the original one though.

    The 2017 version kept telling me it was offline so I couldn't play
    multiplayer this morning.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Idaho Homo Joe@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 4 22:13:14 2022
    Are the two of you tying the knot soon,
    or will you both continue to live in gayboy sin?

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to justisaur@gmail.com on Sun Jun 5 13:56:27 2022
    On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 18:12:38 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:50:13 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    I still have my original retail Battlefront games. :O
    Justisaur <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2017, EA)

    I have the Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2005) game on steam, never tried it.
    I'm installing it now. Not the original one though.

    I have a lot of fond memories of the original "Battlefront" games, but
    I have to admit, I have a really hard time getting back into them. The
    visuals definitely play a part in that; while the LucasArts
    "Battlefronts" were never /ugly/ games when they were new, neither
    were their graphics particularly impressive, and they haven't aged
    well.

    But they fact that they are multiplayer-focused titles is a more
    serious issue; multiplayer is only really fun with friends, and nobody
    I knows plays this oldie anymore (and, at least last time I looked,
    the servers were pretty empty anyway, so even playing with randos was
    a challenge). Plus, I just don't find that sort of gameplay all that
    engaging anymore; even in 2005 I was tiring of it, and nowadays
    running around like headless chickens shooting other people to
    increment the scoreboard seems incredibly uninteresting to me. The
    game did feature a nominal single-player, but it was essentially
    offline multiplayer against bots, so not much better.

    Still, I do have some fond memories; in particular, the space maps
    (where you fly space-fighters to engage and/or board enemy capital
    ships) were always a favorite. I may not be able to rekindle the magic
    that made the games so memorable back then, but that doesn't negate
    the enjoyment I got from the games back in 2005.

    TL;DR: unless you have a crew waiting to play the game with you, or
    have an overwhelming love for really old multiplayer games, don't
    bother with the original Battlefronts. They were good for their time,
    but there are better alternatives today (although not necessarily the
    newer Battlefronts)

    The 2017 version kept telling me it was offline so I couldn't play >multiplayer this morning.

    Ah, the joys of not ever owning or having control of the software you
    paid for. It's such a pleasure to be a modern gamer, isn't it? ;-)

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Jun 5 15:50:35 2022
    On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 10:56:35 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 18:12:38 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <just...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:50:13 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    I still have my original retail Battlefront games. :O
    Justisaur <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2017, EA)

    I have the Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2005) game on steam, never tried it. >I'm installing it now. Not the original one though.
    I have a lot of fond memories of the original "Battlefront" games, but
    I have to admit, I have a really hard time getting back into them. The visuals definitely play a part in that; while the LucasArts
    "Battlefronts" were never /ugly/ games when they were new, neither
    were their graphics particularly impressive, and they haven't aged
    well.

    But they fact that they are multiplayer-focused titles is a more
    serious issue; multiplayer is only really fun with friends, and nobody
    I knows plays this oldie anymore (and, at least last time I looked,
    the servers were pretty empty anyway, so even playing with randos was
    a challenge). Plus, I just don't find that sort of gameplay all that
    engaging anymore; even in 2005 I was tiring of it, and nowadays
    running around like headless chickens shooting other people to
    increment the scoreboard seems incredibly uninteresting to me. The
    game did feature a nominal single-player, but it was essentially
    offline multiplayer against bots, so not much better.

    Still, I do have some fond memories; in particular, the space maps
    (where you fly space-fighters to engage and/or board enemy capital
    ships) were always a favorite. I may not be able to rekindle the magic
    that made the games so memorable back then, but that doesn't negate
    the enjoyment I got from the games back in 2005.

    TL;DR: unless you have a crew waiting to play the game with you, or
    have an overwhelming love for really old multiplayer games, don't
    bother with the original Battlefronts. They were good for their time,
    but there are better alternatives today (although not necessarily the
    newer Battlefronts)
    The 2017 version kept telling me it was offline so I couldn't play >multiplayer this morning.

    Ah, the joys of not ever owning or having control of the software you
    paid for. It's such a pleasure to be a modern gamer, isn't it? ;-)

    I had read the multiplayer was active. I did find one server with a
    few people on it, but yeah the combat mostly consisted of me falling
    off walkways and dying as they seemed to by slippery for some reason :(

    I went through the tutorial and first 'campaign' mission, uninspired
    is an understatement, mission objectives and 'story' were read like
    the narrator was reading a shopping list.

    The new one is far better. I played a bit more, I tried to get in a space battle, but not enough people there and gave up after 5 minutes in the
    que. I played a bit more 'first thing available' but it's starting to get a bit repetitive. I need to try some more specific modes.

    The server/connection issues continue as after that play I took a break
    and tried to return and it kept telling me I was offline again. I also
    found some in game achievements which it appears unlock some
    weapons in multiplayer you have to be online to get and more than
    half the campaign I played offline and didn't get the mission completed achievements as it didn't seem to be important at the time to be
    connected.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sat Jun 25 13:10:26 2022
    On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 3:50:36 PM UTC-7, Justisaur wrote:
    On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 10:56:35 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 18:12:38 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <just...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:50:13 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
    I still have my original retail Battlefront games. :O
    Justisaur <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2017, EA)

    I have the Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (2005) game on steam, never tried it. >I'm installing it now. Not the original one though.
    I have a lot of fond memories of the original "Battlefront" games, but
    I have to admit, I have a really hard time getting back into them. The visuals definitely play a part in that; while the LucasArts
    "Battlefronts" were never /ugly/ games when they were new, neither
    were their graphics particularly impressive, and they haven't aged
    well.

    But they fact that they are multiplayer-focused titles is a more
    serious issue; multiplayer is only really fun with friends, and nobody
    I knows plays this oldie anymore (and, at least last time I looked,
    the servers were pretty empty anyway, so even playing with randos was
    a challenge). Plus, I just don't find that sort of gameplay all that engaging anymore; even in 2005 I was tiring of it, and nowadays
    running around like headless chickens shooting other people to
    increment the scoreboard seems incredibly uninteresting to me. The
    game did feature a nominal single-player, but it was essentially
    offline multiplayer against bots, so not much better.

    Still, I do have some fond memories; in particular, the space maps
    (where you fly space-fighters to engage and/or board enemy capital
    ships) were always a favorite. I may not be able to rekindle the magic
    that made the games so memorable back then, but that doesn't negate
    the enjoyment I got from the games back in 2005.

    TL;DR: unless you have a crew waiting to play the game with you, or
    have an overwhelming love for really old multiplayer games, don't
    bother with the original Battlefronts. They were good for their time,
    but there are better alternatives today (although not necessarily the
    newer Battlefronts)
    The 2017 version kept telling me it was offline so I couldn't play >multiplayer this morning.

    Ah, the joys of not ever owning or having control of the software you
    paid for. It's such a pleasure to be a modern gamer, isn't it? ;-)
    I had read the multiplayer was active. I did find one server with a
    few people on it, but yeah the combat mostly consisted of me falling
    off walkways and dying as they seemed to by slippery for some reason :(

    I went through the tutorial and first 'campaign' mission, uninspired
    is an understatement, mission objectives and 'story' were read like
    the narrator was reading a shopping list.

    The new one is far better. I played a bit more, I tried to get in a space battle, but not enough people there and gave up after 5 minutes in the
    que. I played a bit more 'first thing available' but it's starting to get a bit repetitive. I need to try some more specific modes.

    The server/connection issues continue as after that play I took a break
    and tried to return and it kept telling me I was offline again. I also
    found some in game achievements which it appears unlock some
    weapons in multiplayer you have to be online to get and more than
    half the campaign I played offline and didn't get the mission completed achievements as it didn't seem to be important at the time to be
    connected.

    Updates on the 2017 version. I've still been playing it on and off.
    I figured out for the sever issues just disconnecting and reconnecting
    the wifi works (yeah, wifi sucks for gaming, but can't really get the cords through to where my computer is)

    The space mode seems to be pretty active on the weekends, it's just
    the weekdays it seems dead. It's not anywhere near as fun fighting
    other players in that as it was in the single player campaign though.

    I haven't really got into the multiplayer pvp modes much as it's mostly
    heroes, and those are mostly Jedi, which the vets are obviously far
    better at. I just discovered yesterday that you can parry, there was
    nothing about that in the tutorials or the hints that I can remember.
    It also doesn't really look like a parry (or I just can't follow the lightsaber fights) I only found out because someone on one of the forums
    mentioned it.

    I also have no idea how you reflect blasters. I'm not sure if it just
    happens when you block or you have to aim or do something else.

    I found the campaign stuff achievements is just small credit rewards,
    which apparently there's nothing to spend them on now. I did get a
    pose for Palpatine from the arcade mode, but whatever. You don't
    actually get abilities or weapons for the achievements, like I said
    above.

    The last couple days I've been having an issue in co-op where it tosses
    me in a game that only has a few seconds left, and it takes a couple
    minutes to join a game. At least 3 or 4 games in a row now.

    Another bug I've been encountering is it quits letting me sprint in
    co-op somewhere in the middle of the scenario.

    It's a fun game, but boy is it buggy/ bad QoL with stuff like that, I
    can see why they ended up giving it away. It's too bad, as it's
    the most fun SW game I've played in a long time.

    Also Epic doesn't seem to remember that I've played it, and any time
    I do I have to go down my now huge list of games to find it, and it
    takes a couple minutes to load the full list. It's not my computer as steam
    & gog don't have that issue.

    - Justisaur

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to justisaur@gmail.com on Sun Jun 26 01:26:00 2022
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
    Also Epic doesn't seem to remember that I've played it, and any time
    I do I have to go down my now huge list of games to find it, and it
    takes a couple minutes to load the full list. It's not my computer as steam >& gog don't have that issue.

    Unfortunately, the Epic Game Store client is implemented as a bloated
    app, so it's absurdly slow. Well, ok, so is the Steam client these days,
    and GOG Galaxy too, but Valve and GOG actually care about their users.

    You might want to make a shortcut for the game so you don't have to
    launch it from the client. Click the ... next to the game, and after
    waiting only a few seconds for it to render, a menu should appear with a "Create a shortcut" option.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Sat Jun 25 18:49:40 2022
    On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 6:26:03 PM UTC-7, Ross Ridge wrote:
    Justisaur <just...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Also Epic doesn't seem to remember that I've played it, and any time
    I do I have to go down my now huge list of games to find it, and it
    takes a couple minutes to load the full list. It's not my computer as steam >& gog don't have that issue.
    Unfortunately, the Epic Game Store client is implemented as a bloated
    app, so it's absurdly slow. Well, ok, so is the Steam client these days,
    and GOG Galaxy too, but Valve and GOG actually care about their users.

    You might want to make a shortcut for the game so you don't have to
    launch it from the client. Click the ... next to the game, and after
    waiting only a few seconds for it to render, a menu should appear with a "Create a shortcut" option.

    *Facepalm* I already have one, I don't know why I never thought to use it.
    Or did I? Getting old I guess. I'll try it next time I have a hankering.

    Today I tried to play again, and it just chucked me out of the scenario, so
    I gave up again.

    - Justisaur

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