Somehow I suspect that - in the end - this issue became less about percentages and profits and more about intransigent and thin-skinned
C-level execs who were upset they couldn't have their way. We like to
think these "captains of industry" are long-viewed, clear-thinking
managers who carefully guide their companies towards profits, but - as becomes more and more evident every year - these folk are flawed,
shallow individuals who can't take a refusal or insult and are willing
to risk their corporate charges for the stupidest of reasons. I've no evidence to suggest this is what happened here, but it wouldn't
surprise me in the least.
On 5/10/2022 1:05 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
From what I've seen and read, Big Business is less about making money
Somehow I suspect that - in the end - this issue became less about
percentages and profits and more about intransigent and thin-skinned
C-level execs who were upset they couldn't have their way. We like to
think these "captains of industry" are long-viewed, clear-thinking
managers who carefully guide their companies towards profits, but - as
becomes more and more evident every year - these folk are flawed,
shallow individuals who can't take a refusal or insult and are willing
to risk their corporate charges for the stupidest of reasons. I've no
evidence to suggest this is what happened here, but it wouldn't
surprise me in the least.
and much more about "how can I screw others over?" and always has been.
On Tue, 10 May 2022 17:55:16 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 5/10/2022 1:05 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
From what I've seen and read, Big Business is less about making money
Somehow I suspect that - in the end - this issue became less about
percentages and profits and more about intransigent and thin-skinned
C-level execs who were upset they couldn't have their way. We like to
think these "captains of industry" are long-viewed, clear-thinking
managers who carefully guide their companies towards profits, but - as
becomes more and more evident every year - these folk are flawed,
shallow individuals who can't take a refusal or insult and are willing
to risk their corporate charges for the stupidest of reasons. I've no
evidence to suggest this is what happened here, but it wouldn't
surprise me in the least.
and much more about "how can I screw others over?" and always has been.
I wanna say "that's not how it USED to be", but even the briefest
perusal of history shows that's incorrect. But I do think that it's
become more common.
In the past, a lot of companies couldn't afford to be so reckless with
their money because they'd too easily be overtaken by competitors or
simply go out of business. But with the ever-growing consolidation of corporations and wealth into the hands of the few, there's less risk
and more money to throw around stupidly. Add to that a focus on
next-quarter profits rather than overall financial stability, and an
ever decreasing worry about C-levels or board-members being held
accountable for their actions, and million (or even billion) dollar
tantrums have become less unusual.
But perhaps I shouldn't be so critical. These are, after all, the
fabled "job creators" which must be protected lest the economy
quagmire. I'm sure they know what they're doing...
Well, apparently not, since EA has announced that - while there willDoes not seem to make much of a difference except 4 letters less in the
still be an EA-published "FIFA 23", that will be the last one from
them. After that, the license will revert back to FIFA and new
association football games from them will bear the "EA Sports FC"
branding
Am 10.05.22 um 22:05 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
Well, apparently not, since EA has announced that - while there willDoes not seem to make much of a difference except 4 letters less in the
still be an EA-published "FIFA 23", that will be the last one from
them. After that, the license will revert back to FIFA and new
association football games from them will bear the "EA Sports FC"
branding
title (aka FIFA) as it seems the FIFA is really just the FIFA branding
on the box, the players etc... need to be negotiated with the different country leagues independent of the FIFA. So the only change will be the
title the rest is up to the country leagues.
This looks more like a case of trying to get more money out of EA
because we are FIFA than anything else. For EA it probably was an easy goodbye, one pesky entity out of a dozen, less to deal with.
That the FC in the new title probably is an abbreviation for F*** the customers, is a different story, but oh well EA!
Well FIFA have been a grubby little organisation for a long time. IWell the FIFA, UEFA, the IOC every organisations which deals with such
thought they couldn't top how they handled the various charges of
corruption (think of a broom and a carpet) but then we have a World Cup awarded to Qatar. Yeh they've got a pretty dodgy humans rights record
but does it matter when we can see an opportunity to expand the FIFA
brand and make a big pile of cash in the process. Oh and that bit about
the World Cup must be in the summer as tradition demands - just make up
some stuff about air conditioned stadiums or something and we'll let you
move the date afterwards.
Am 12.05.22 um 10:08 schrieb JAB:
Well FIFA have been a grubby little organisation for a long time. IWell the FIFA, UEFA, the IOC every organisations which deals with such
thought they couldn't top how they handled the various charges of
corruption (think of a broom and a carpet) but then we have a World
Cup awarded to Qatar. Yeh they've got a pretty dodgy humans rights
record but does it matter when we can see an opportunity to expand the
FIFA brand and make a big pile of cash in the process. Oh and that bit
about the World Cup must be in the summer as tradition demands - just
make up some stuff about air conditioned stadiums or something and
we'll let you move the date afterwards.
events where tons of money is involved is ripe for jail regarding
corruption. The FIFA is just the most notorious one because those are
the ones constantly showing their corruption openly.
On 12/05/2022 17:20, Werner P. wrote:
Am 12.05.22 um 10:08 schrieb JAB:
Well FIFA have been a grubby little organisation for a long time. I
thought they couldn't top how they handled the various charges of
corruption (think of a broom and a carpet) but then we have a World
Cup awarded to Qatar. Yeh they've got a pretty dodgy humans rights
record but does it matter when we can see an opportunity to expand the
FIFA brand and make a big pile of cash in the process. Oh and that bit
about the World Cup must be in the summer as tradition demands - just
make up some stuff about air conditioned stadiums or something and
we'll let you move the date afterwards.
Well the FIFA, UEFA, the IOC every organisations which deals with such
events where tons of money is involved is ripe for jail regarding
corruption. The FIFA is just the most notorious one because those are
the ones constantly showing their corruption openly.
Yeh, large organisations with this much money moving about are going to
have some level of corruption but with FIFA it's just so blatant,
considered as not really doing anything wrong and the way it's run isn't
for the betterment of football but instead the betterment of the senior >official's bank balance.
On Fri, 13 May 2022 09:12:07 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 12/05/2022 17:20, Werner P. wrote:
Am 12.05.22 um 10:08 schrieb JAB:
Well FIFA have been a grubby little organisation for a long time. I
thought they couldn't top how they handled the various charges of
corruption (think of a broom and a carpet) but then we have a World
Cup awarded to Qatar. Yeh they've got a pretty dodgy humans rights
record but does it matter when we can see an opportunity to expand the >>>> FIFA brand and make a big pile of cash in the process. Oh and that bit >>>> about the World Cup must be in the summer as tradition demands - just
make up some stuff about air conditioned stadiums or something and
we'll let you move the date afterwards.
Well the FIFA, UEFA, the IOC every organisations which deals with such
events where tons of money is involved is ripe for jail regarding
corruption. The FIFA is just the most notorious one because those are
the ones constantly showing their corruption openly.
Yeh, large organisations with this much money moving about are going to
have some level of corruption but with FIFA it's just so blatant,
considered as not really doing anything wrong and the way it's run isn't
for the betterment of football but instead the betterment of the senior
official's bank balance.
As mentioned, the next FIFA game - FIFA23 - will still be developed by
EA. However, the one after that will apparently be a "non-simulation"
FIFA game. Odds are this means it will be a management sim, rather
than the sports/action the FIFA games are usually associated with.
Now, there's nothing wrong with sports management games; a lot of
people love them. Still, they are a comparatively tiny niche compared
to the number of action/sports titles, and can't help but make less
money. Yet this is the future FIFA has chosen for itself; apparently
it is so sure of the importance of its branding that its willing to
shoot itself in the foot like this rather than share with EA.
TL;DR; they're not only corrupt, they're stupid too. No wonder they
need to rely on underhanded dealing to make money.
Still, good on them. Let them fuck themselves over. Let EA get fucked.
I'm happy with both outcomes. Maybe we'll start seeing some
competition in the soccer game market, rather than one microtransaction-riddled juggernaut destroying all others.
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