https://bethesda.net/en/account/transfer-library
It took a while to migrate my free games though.
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 21:07:51 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote: >>https://bethesda.net/en/account/transfer-library
It took a while to migrate my free games though.
I don't know what Bethesda games I have with them. Hmm...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 21:44:53 -0600, PW
<iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 21:07:51 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote: >>>https://bethesda.net/en/account/transfer-library
It took a while to migrate my free games though.
I don't know what Bethesda games I have with them. Hmm...
Fortunately, this is one migration I don't have to worry about.
Although I have a good number of Bethesda titles, none of them used
the Bethesda client*, and I neither bothered to create an account with
them nor downloaded their software. In fact, Bethesda went onto my
"no-buy" list because of the damn thing.
They're off it now, of course. Never thought I'd be grateful for the >Microsoft monopoly swallowing up yet-another company...
Okay - then I can't use this. I never heard of the Bethesda Client
One of the best Bethesda games or sport games I have ever played was a
simple NFL game by them that just had Xs and Os. It was for my Atari
ST!
There was a strategy wargame for my ST that was exceptional but I
can't remember the name of it.
https://bethesda.net/en/account/transfer-library
It took a while to migrate my free games though.
(Myself, I was always fond of their Terminator games. "Future Shock"
usually is the one that gets the most mention, but I have a warm spot
in my heart for "Terminator 2029", if only for its blue-tinged visuals
and MIDI rendition of the Terminator theme. Meanwhile, their 1991 "The >Terminator" plays like a very early prototype for an Elder Scrolls
game. It's not that much fun to play, but I appreciate it for its
historical value ;-)
ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote in news:AL-dnfTUD71qa_T_nZ2dnUU7- cHNnZ2d@earthlink.com:
https://bethesda.net/en/account/transfer-library
It took a while to migrate my free games though.
The only thing I ever used their client for was the Skyrim Creation Kit. I have no idea how to access this now.
Fortunately, this is one migration I don't have to worry about.
Although I have a good number of Bethesda titles, none of them used
the Bethesda client
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:19:20 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson ><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
(Myself, I was always fond of their Terminator games. "Future Shock" >>usually is the one that gets the most mention, but I have a warm spot
in my heart for "Terminator 2029", if only for its blue-tinged visuals
and MIDI rendition of the Terminator theme. Meanwhile, their 1991 "The >>Terminator" plays like a very early prototype for an Elder Scrolls
game. It's not that much fun to play, but I appreciate it for its >>historical value ;-)
There is at least one more.
Terminator Rampage.
Mark P. Nelson <markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote in news:AL-dnfTUD71qa_T_nZ2dnUU7-
cHNnZ2d@earthlink.com:
https://bethesda.net/en/account/transfer-library
It took a while to migrate my free games though.
The only thing I ever used their client for was the Skyrim Creation
Kit. I have no idea how to access this now.
Ask their support and forum?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:54:27 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:19:20 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson ><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
(Myself, I was always fond of their Terminator games. "Future Shock" >>usually is the one that gets the most mention, but I have a warm spot
in my heart for "Terminator 2029", if only for its blue-tinged visuals >>and MIDI rendition of the Terminator theme. Meanwhile, their 1991 "The >>Terminator" plays like a very early prototype for an Elder Scrolls
game. It's not that much fun to play, but I appreciate it for its >>historical value ;-)
There is at least one more.
Terminator Rampage.
More than that, actually. The "Terminator 2 Arcade Game" (an on-rails light-gun shooter ported to PC), and "Terminator 2 Chess". Plus
"Skynet", the stand-alone expansion to "Future Shock". The latter was
a worthy successor to T:FS, but it gets enough praise already.
"T2:Chess" was pretty awful though, both as a chess game (insultingly
bad AI), and as a video-game (it had some very rough animations).
I thought "Rampage" was awful too, although I guess it may have some
fans. It was mostly the terrible level designs; it was set entirely an
an office complex; a mazelike mess of identical corridors and rooms,
with some very unfair enemy placements (e.g., exploding drones that
sit right behind a door, so you've no chance to back away before they
go boom). For its time it had some impressively high-res graphics, but
the - like "Wolfenstein 3D" - it only allowed right-angle junctions
and - coming out after "Underworld" and only a few months before
"Doom" - it felt dated even on release. On the plus side it did
continue the story-line started in "Terminator: 2029" (and "Rampage's"
story was further built upon by "Future Shock").
(TL;DR: there was a reason I didn't mention "Terminator: Rampage" when
I was talking about the Bethesda Terminator games ;-)
(TL;DR: there was a reason I didn't mention "Terminator: Rampage" when
I was talking about the Bethesda Terminator games ;-)
Fortunately, it didn't last long enough to get its claws too deep into
too many games, making the transition away from it that much easier. I
think it was only embedded in a handful of games - "Fallout 76", "Doom >Eternal", "Wolfenstein Young Blood" - with most of their older titles >remaining free of its taint. It's no wonder some people never even
knew it existed.
One of the best Bethesda games or sport games I have ever played was a >>simple NFL game by them that just had Xs and Os. It was for my Atari
ST!
You are probably thinking of "Gridiron!" (the exclamation mark is very >important ;-), a Bethesda Softworks game that came out for Atari (and
Amiga) in 1986. Its visuals were a bit more sophisticated than Xs and
Os... but not by much.
There was a strategy wargame for my ST that was exceptional but I
can't remember the name of it.
Well, I'm at a loss as what that could be. My (very limited) searches >indicate Bethesda only released two titles for the Atari ST - the >aforementioned "Gridiron!" (with the ever important punctuation), and
a hockey game, "Wayne Gretzky Hockey". Strategy wasn't really their
forte either; they were mostly action and RPG games, with a smattering
of sports titles.
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:49:40 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson ><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
(TL;DR: there was a reason I didn't mention "Terminator: Rampage" when
I was talking about the Bethesda Terminator games ;-)
I played a lot of the Bethesda Terminator games back in the day, I
still own them, but I can barely remember them now. I have little to
no memory of them.
I said it before... the way you can keep all of these games straight
in your head is impressive to me.
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:54:27 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:
I remember those Terminator games. :P Does anyone remember this cheesy
basic T2 game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST7_WqSlQJI ;)
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:05:26 -0600, PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 11:19:58 -0600, PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:19:20 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
Fortunately, it didn't last long enough to get its claws too deep into
too many games, making the transition away from it that much easier. I >>think it was only embedded in a handful of games - "Fallout 76", "Doom >>Eternal", "Wolfenstein Young Blood" - with most of their older titles >>remaining free of its taint. It's no wonder some people never even
knew it existed.
I bought the Wolfensteins via Steam but do not have Young Blood, and
Doom Eternal.
I don't think it was a Bethesda game. And it was a visual game withThere was a strategy wargame for my ST that was exceptional but I
can't remember the name of it.
icons and the ability to build up resources and attacks.
I am not going to go over all of these pages! >http://www.atarimania.com/list_games_atari-st-strategy-wargame_genre_155_S_G.html
or these! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atari_ST_games
I don't think I have any of the cartridges or whatever they came in. I
do remember spending a lot of money on a 20 *MB* hard drive that
hardly worked.
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:48:25 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:54:27 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:
I remember those Terminator games. :P Does anyone remember this cheesy
basic T2 game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST7_WqSlQJI ;)
Wow, I missed that one. My collection is incomplete! EBay, here I
come!
That said, it's both an Ocean Games /and/ an LJN title, neither
company which inspires me with much confidence as to the quality of
the game. So much crap came out of those companies I'm not surprised
I'd not heard of this one. Combine that with the almost legendary
awfulness of licensed titles, and I seriously wonder if I should even
try to acquire this game for the collection...
On 4/29/2022 10:02 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:48:25 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
I remember those Terminator games. :P Does anyone remember this cheesy
basic T2 game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST7_WqSlQJI ;)
Wow, I missed that one. My collection is incomplete! EBay, here I
come!
WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL SPALLS HURGENSON?!
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:48:25 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:54:27 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:
I remember those Terminator games. :P Does anyone remember this cheesy >basic T2 game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST7_WqSlQJI ;)
Wow, I missed that one. My collection is incomplete! EBay, here I
come!
That said, it's both an Ocean Games /and/ an LJN title, neither
company which inspires me with much confidence as to the quality of
the game. So much crap came out of those companies I'm not surprised
I'd not heard of this one. Combine that with the almost legendary
awfulness of licensed titles, and I seriously wonder if I should even
try to acquire this game for the collection...
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:48:25 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:54:27 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:
I remember those Terminator games. :P Does anyone remember this cheesy
basic T2 game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST7_WqSlQJI ;)
Wow, I missed that one. My collection is incomplete! EBay, here I
come!
That said, it's both an Ocean Games /and/ an LJN title, neither
company which inspires me with much confidence as to the quality of
the game. So much crap came out of those companies I'm not surprised
I'd not heard of this one. Combine that with the almost legendary
awfulness of licensed titles, and I seriously wonder if I should even
try to acquire this game for the collection...
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:48:25 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:54:27 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:19:20 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember those Terminator games. :P Does anyone remember this cheesy
basic T2 game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST7_WqSlQJI ;)
Wow, I missed that one. My collection is incomplete! EBay, here I
come!
Oh, I forgot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnO0ShP56aA.
Meanwhile, their 1991 "The Terminator" plays like a very early prototype >>>>> for an Elder Scrolls game. It's not that much fun to play, but I appreciate
it for its historical value ;-)
On 29/04/2022 18:02, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
That said, it's both an Ocean Games /and/ an LJN title, neither
company which inspires me with much confidence as to the quality of
the game. So much crap came out of those companies I'm not surprised
I'd not heard of this one. Combine that with the almost legendary
awfulness of licensed titles, and I seriously wonder if I should even
try to acquire this game for the collection...
Ocean Software, that takes me back a bit to my Speccky 48k days. Like
you I can't say I though much of their output in general as they seemed
to miss the message that other developers quickly got, at least for me >anyway.
Games that were really based around the concept of home computer games
are arcade games but with the limitations of a what a home computer can
do where fine to start with but then you started getting games shifting
to looking beyond the idea that games need to be structured to get you
to put another 10p in.
That doesn't mean that there aren't games that I remember fondly around
that concept but I'm glad that more developers moved to playing to home >computer's strengths and not weaknesses.
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 20:38:00 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 22:48:25 -0500, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:54:27 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote: >>>>>On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:19:20 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
I remember those Terminator games. :P Does anyone remember this cheesy
basic T2 game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST7_WqSlQJI ;)
Wow, I missed that one. My collection is incomplete! EBay, here I
come!
Oh, I forgot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnO0ShP56aA.
I didn't:
Meanwhile, their 1991 "The Terminator" plays like a very early prototype
for an Elder Scrolls game. It's not that much fun to play, but I appreciate
it for its historical value ;-)
;-);-);-)
It really is a very rough game, and - firing it up again - I am
reminded why its so often forgotten amongst the other Bethesda (and Terminator) games. It's amazingly forward thinking - it has an
impressively large (for the time) open world, you can drive vehicles,
enter buildings and shops, there are reactive police... you can even
play as either the Terminator or Reese. But the capabilities of the
hardware just weren't up to the vision, and the actual gameplay feels
like a very barebones "Arena" with imprecise combat.
A fascinating tech-demo, but not something that inspires you to play
for very long.
On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 11:20:33 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 29/04/2022 18:02, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
That said, it's both an Ocean Games /and/ an LJN title, neither
company which inspires me with much confidence as to the quality of
the game. So much crap came out of those companies I'm not surprised
I'd not heard of this one. Combine that with the almost legendary
awfulness of licensed titles, and I seriously wonder if I should even
try to acquire this game for the collection...
Ocean Software, that takes me back a bit to my Speccky 48k days. Like
you I can't say I though much of their output in general as they seemed
to miss the message that other developers quickly got, at least for me
anyway.
Games that were really based around the concept of home computer games
are arcade games but with the limitations of a what a home computer can
do where fine to start with but then you started getting games shifting
to looking beyond the idea that games need to be structured to get you
to put another 10p in.
That doesn't mean that there aren't games that I remember fondly around
that concept but I'm glad that more developers moved to playing to home
computer's strengths and not weaknesses.
That definitely was an issue but not my main problem with Ocean
titles. A lot of developers struggled with the transition from
arcade-game to home-gaming; it took years for the idea to sink in that
people who paid $50 for their product might want to see all of it
instead just the first few screens. The fact that many of Ocean's
games were either direct ports (or poorly-disguised imitations) of
arcade titles didn't help them.
But - at least in my experience - Ocean games also suffered from a
lack of polish; poorer visuals, worse sound, uncomfortable and
nonstandard control schemes, bad implementation of a PCs
capabilities... stuff like that. Again, part of this probably had to
do with the company's origins - they were almost entirely programming
for the 8-bit PCs in Europe (the Speccy, Amstrad, MSX, etc) and were
late to the party on the x86 computers - but that was little comfort
to anyone who had to play their PC games.
Ocean titles were always more trouble, less advanced, and less fun to
play than those of their competitors. They may have had a better
reptutation on the 8-bits, but by the time I started encountering them
on 16-bit games, they were generally a label to avoid.
IMHO. YMMC. OALA;EHOATAFOS ;-)
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
A fascinating tech-demo, but not something that inspires you to play
for very long.
I almost bought that game, but decided not to. It's a good thing because
it looks slow and boring! They should remake this for modern hardwares.
;)
On 30/04/2022 17:06, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Ocean titles were always more trouble, less advanced, and less fun to
play than those of their competitors. They may have had a better
reptutation on the 8-bits, but by the time I started encountering them
on 16-bit games, they were generally a label to avoid.
My recollection is from the 8-bit days and although the old memory is a
bit hazy there just seemed a disconnect between what they were
outputting and how big a brand they were. I don't remember it being a
quality issue as such but instead one of there were far more interesting >games out then than ones that seemed stuck in 1982/3.
Another way to look at it was why would I spend £5.99 of my hard earned
money from my paper-round on a Ocean game instead of something from a >developer who seemed to have sat back and decided to do not just
something different but also making the type of game they wanted to
play. The Lords of Midnight vs. another arcade type game, no contest there.
On Sun, 1 May 2022 11:33:31 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 30/04/2022 17:06, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Ocean titles were always more trouble, less advanced, and less fun to
play than those of their competitors. They may have had a better
reptutation on the 8-bits, but by the time I started encountering them
on 16-bit games, they were generally a label to avoid.
My recollection is from the 8-bit days and although the old memory is a
bit hazy there just seemed a disconnect between what they were
outputting and how big a brand they were. I don't remember it being a
quality issue as such but instead one of there were far more interesting
games out then than ones that seemed stuck in 1982/3.
Another way to look at it was why would I spend £5.99 of my hard earned
money from my paper-round on a Ocean game instead of something from a
developer who seemed to have sat back and decided to do not just
something different but also making the type of game they wanted to
play. The Lords of Midnight vs. another arcade type game, no contest there.
Well, it's also a matter of taste. A lot of gamers not only enjoyed
but expected games to be ruthlessly hard challenges, and actively
complained if they perceived a game to be too easy (it's a conudrum
still plaguing developers to this day). Being able to get to the end
of the game without a weeks-long struggle was seen as not getting value-for-money by some.
I remember those Terminator games. :P
Does anyone remember this cheesy basic T2 game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST7_WqSlQJI ;)
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