This is mostly based around Steam but also online 'forums' in general.
I'm old enough to remember when trolling wasn't that common but also was
more limited into getting someone dragged into a conversation without >realising what was happening. So it required a bit of creativity and
also humour (not malice), someone like bloodninja springs to mind.
Now there seems to be far more trolls but the trolling itself just
consists of obvious insults straight out the gate. Anyone can do that
surely so where's the fun in it. If you 'speak' to enough people then
yes, you will find someone who reacts. Indeed is it even trolling if the
vast majority of people see it as such straight away.
As an aside, something that does annoy me about the term troll is that >probably in the last ten years it morphed itself from what I understood
it to be into just being abusive to someone online. I'm going to blame >main-stream-media as it's always their fault!
I can understand the why of the shift, though. Back in Usenet's
heyday, a good troll could inflict their horrors on thousands -
potentially hundreds of thousands - of people. But Usenet - and forums
in general - have become so fragmented that most boards only have a
few hundred or dozens of readers; it's hardly worth the amount of work
it would take for a proper troll. So the purveyors of that art have
moved on to brighter pastures where their reach is greater (maybe to
GBNews or Fox? ;-).
On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 12:24:22 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson ><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
I can understand the why of the shift, though. Back in Usenet's
heyday, a good troll could inflict their horrors on thousands -
potentially hundreds of thousands - of people. But Usenet - and forums
in general - have become so fragmented that most boards only have a
few hundred or dozens of readers; it's hardly worth the amount of work
it would take for a proper troll. So the purveyors of that art have
moved on to brighter pastures where their reach is greater (maybe to
GBNews or Fox? ;-).
My own definition of a troll back in the day was, as you said, mostly >synonymous with trawling. Usually it was someone who was going for a
high post count, to see how many responses they could get / how many
people they could annoy in a single thread, etc. Sometimes they just
seemed to derive satisfaction from annoying others. Personally I
believe many of them were satisfying a craving for attention they
couldn't get any other way.
What was different back then is that a lot of the *effective* trolling
that took place usually crept up on the reader in the sense that early
in the thread, it didn't reveal itself as a troll attempt. It
presented some intriguing or maybe controversial topic or stance. And
then slowly as you read or participated in the followup posts, it
started to become obvious that the poster had no intention of
participating in a productive discussion, and then this sinking
feeling set in like "fuck, I just got trolled" because of the time
invested in reading that far.
Skilled trolls knew how to spark and attract interest in thread >participation, while sending the thread, unnoticed, into a slow
downward spiral that always ended in regret for anyone who didn't
ignore what was being posted along the way.
"Trolls" these days mostly aren't that. I don't think the IQ level of
the average social media poster these days is on the same playing
field as, for example the average Usenet poster in say the early 90's.
And, it's probably only going to get worse for future generations, the
impact of the pandemic and the disruptions to in-school learning has >apparently substantially damaged formative academic years for an
entire generation, and I doubt the disruptions are going to find a
permanent end any time soon.
In addition to that, I think the advent of smartphones and social
media meant that being an ass behind a keyboard simply became
available to a much wider spectrum of people -- many of whom are
incapable of intentional, skilled trolling I mentioned above. What
they are capable of is using their phone to be an ass, and since that
doesn't take any skill, it becomes a favorite past-time of many.
This is mostly based around Steam but also online 'forums' in general.
I'm old enough to remember when trolling wasn't that common but also was
more limited into getting someone dragged into a conversation without realising what was happening. So it required a bit of creativity and
also humour (not malice), someone like bloodninja springs to mind.
Now there seems to be far more trolls but the trolling itself just
consists of obvious insults straight out the gate. Anyone can do that
surely so where's the fun in it. If you 'speak' to enough people then
yes, you will find someone who reacts. Indeed is it even trolling if the
vast majority of people see it as such straight away.
As an aside, something that does annoy me about the term troll is that probably in the last ten years it morphed itself from what I understood
it to be into just being abusive to someone online. I'm going to blame main-stream-media as it's always their fault!
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