On 3/20/2024 11:57 PM, Justisaur wrote:On 3/21/2024 3:20 AM, kyonshi wrote:
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
On 3/20/2024 11:57 PM, Justisaur wrote:
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
This was recommended as sort of a dark souls meets skyrim game. I am
liking it, but it's 12 years old and shows it, and has some weird
character building.
It's not really Dark Souls. It did remind me a bit of Skyrim, but with a
3rd party view.
It's very DnD in it's conception, with a lot of monsters that could
easily come directly from the Monster Manual. The first time I
encountered a manticore was scary, the harpies are pretty creepy. and
some of the monsters in the last dungeon definitely are heavily inspired (there's even a beholder). The orcs/goblins are very movie-LOTR though.
I tried going pretty much all magic to begin with and that made me
extremely fragile, and the other thing I'm not too sure about is
casting spells roots you in place for a good amount of time during
which you can be hit out of your casting. The spellcasters do seem to
be better at large monsters, but do badly against numbers. I started
over and went with a more balanced build combining a bit of fighter
(higher phys defense) strider (phy offense & stamina,) mystic knight
(balanced but weaker skilled all of offence and defense) and sorcerer
(offensive magic and magic defense) which is working far better.
The way to make casters work is with use of the NPC followers. You can
have up to 3 of them and you need them to take over the parts that your character is not good at. So a caster needs tanks to keep the opponents
off you as you prepare your spells.
It's got a lot of loot and crafting possible it seems, which I don't
really like, so have been mostly ignoring that point and dumping it
all in storage. But it does have the usual RPG weight limits, only
worse as you slow down the closer you are to your weight limits.
I barely crafted anything, but there's a few moments where you need to
craft specific things to help you in game.
One very unusual thing about the game is the NPC party members. Youparty members you can get, and choosing new party members often comes
can have one you completely customize and level up with pretty much
same as your character can, I'd equate to a henchman, but it acts
under computer AI which can be adjusted somewhat by talking to them at
a table at an inn, and two hierlings which are other people's henchmen
(or crappy default ones if playing offline) Those ones don't level and
you can't change their skills, classes or AI behavior, and thus will
be changing out fairly frequently as you level up, to be close to your
level.>> This becomes a bit of a strategic decision. You are limited as to what
with a change in how you play the game. Rarely will you be able to get
the same skillset on your next round of NPCs again. In the beginning
this doesn't matter that much, but later on the skills diverge so much
that you will have to modify your playstyle to match.
So how far have you gotten?
It almost feels like an offline MMO, and in fact they made a DD MMO 3
years later. There's also some hubub about Dragon's Dogma 2 which
just released on console, but isn't on PC yet.
There also is an anime for it, which doesn't seem to be connected that
much outside of the core concept.
But yes, it's DD2 that is currently making people interested in the game again.
I can't really see much similarity to Dark Souls other than the
graphics feel a bit like DS1 Remastered (better than vanilla DS1.) Oh
well it has one save like a DS character, however it reloads the last
save if you die. You can also choose to reload the last save. It
also only has one save slot, so you can't have a cadre of characters.
Fortunately there's a mod for that too.
I have to say I really liked it when I played it. It was a bit generic
in some of it's parts, and the story was a bit obvious, but it was
engaging enough. I played as a fighter and without branching out you
really needed the support of those NPCs.
Not going to get Dragon's Dogma II Justisaur?
On 3/25/2024 8:49 PM, PW wrote:
Not going to get Dragon's Dogma II Justisaur?
Maybe eventually. I'm finding 1 very repetitive at this point and
getting a bit bored with it. 90% of the game is fighting bandits,
goblins, wolves, zombies & skeletons which currently offer no challenge,
and leveling has slowed to a trickle. I miss the variety and some of
the difficulty of Souls games (except ER which gets a bit repetitive.)
I suppose I could start over on hard mode, but that would just make it
harder not have any more variety. I'm on the edge of quitting, but
trying to push forward the main quests now to get it over with or
somewhere more challenging & different monsters.
The only real challenge in the last 10 levels or so has been the luck of >avoiding me or my NPCs getting picked up and dropped off cliffs by
fliers or pushed off to our deaths.
At least with the changing classes every 11 levels that the build guide
I'm using that gives me some variety as I learn how to fight as a
different class, but the levels have slowed down considerably at 41
(there's 200 in total, I hope I don't have to go through all of them to >finish the game)
Also 2 currently has some severe performance issues on PC that are being >looked into, and there's complaints it's littered with MTX.
I'm thinking of giving Monster Hunter a third try again as there's
supposed to be a lot of monster variety, I don't know if I can get past
the apparently endless extremely cringe cutscenes though.
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 07:27:28 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/25/2024 8:49 PM, PW wrote:
Not going to get Dragon's Dogma II Justisaur?
Maybe eventually. I'm finding 1 very repetitive at this point and
getting a bit bored with it. 90% of the game is fighting bandits,
goblins, wolves, zombies & skeletons which currently offer no challenge,
and leveling has slowed to a trickle. I miss the variety and some of
the difficulty of Souls games (except ER which gets a bit repetitive.)
I suppose I could start over on hard mode, but that would just make it
harder not have any more variety. I'm on the edge of quitting, but
trying to push forward the main quests now to get it over with or
somewhere more challenging & different monsters.
The only real challenge in the last 10 levels or so has been the luck of
avoiding me or my NPCs getting picked up and dropped off cliffs by
fliers or pushed off to our deaths.
At least with the changing classes every 11 levels that the build guide
I'm using that gives me some variety as I learn how to fight as a
different class, but the levels have slowed down considerably at 41
(there's 200 in total, I hope I don't have to go through all of them to
finish the game)
Also 2 currently has some severe performance issues on PC that are being
looked into, and there's complaints it's littered with MTX.
I'm thinking of giving Monster Hunter a third try again as there's
supposed to be a lot of monster variety, I don't know if I can get past
the apparently endless extremely cringe cutscenes though.
*--
Yes, some of the Steam reviews of 2 point out that the game barely run
on super computers so I doubt mine could handle it, even though it
isn't that old.
Which Monster Hunter?
Which Monster Hunter?The only one I have is World.
Which Monster Hunter?The only one I have is World.
 Monster Hunter Rise is on gamepass
rms
Is that one any better?The only one I have is World.Monster Hunter Rise is on gamepass
Is that one any better?The only one I have is World.  Monster Hunter Rise is on gamepass
 Online comparisons seem to regard Rise as being better balanced and
more noob-friendly
On 3/26/2024 10:13 AM, PW wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 07:27:28 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/25/2024 8:49 PM, PW wrote:
Not going to get Dragon's Dogma II Justisaur?
Maybe eventually. I'm finding 1 very repetitive at this point and
getting a bit bored with it. 90% of the game is fighting bandits,
goblins, wolves, zombies & skeletons which currently offer no challenge, >>> and leveling has slowed to a trickle. I miss the variety and some of
the difficulty of Souls games (except ER which gets a bit repetitive.)
I suppose I could start over on hard mode, but that would just make it
harder not have any more variety. I'm on the edge of quitting, but
trying to push forward the main quests now to get it over with or
somewhere more challenging & different monsters.
The only real challenge in the last 10 levels or so has been the luck of >>> avoiding me or my NPCs getting picked up and dropped off cliffs by
fliers or pushed off to our deaths.
At least with the changing classes every 11 levels that the build guide
I'm using that gives me some variety as I learn how to fight as a
different class, but the levels have slowed down considerably at 41
(there's 200 in total, I hope I don't have to go through all of them to
finish the game)
Also 2 currently has some severe performance issues on PC that are being >>> looked into, and there's complaints it's littered with MTX.
I'm thinking of giving Monster Hunter a third try again as there's
supposed to be a lot of monster variety, I don't know if I can get past
the apparently endless extremely cringe cutscenes though.
*--
Yes, some of the Steam reviews of 2 point out that the game barely run
on super computers so I doubt mine could handle it, even though it
isn't that old.
Just saw another post about the sorcerer being nerfed to hell, There's
only 4 spells now, and even those have been nerfed. I think that's the
last nail in the coffin for DD2.
Which Monster Hunter?
The only one I have is World.
On 3/27/2024 11:04 AM, rms wrote:
Is that one any better?The only one I have is World.Monster Hunter Rise is on gamepass
Online comparisons seem to regard Rise as being better balanced and
more noob-friendly
Thanks I'll look into it. Probably in the distant future :D
On Wed, 27 Mar 2024 16:03:36 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/27/2024 11:04 AM, rms wrote:
Is that one any better?The only one I have is World.  Monster Hunter Rise is on gamepass
 Online comparisons seem to regard Rise as being better balanced and
more noob-friendly
Thanks I'll look into it. Probably in the distant future :D
*--
Oh come on now Justisaur! Be like the rest of us here! Buy it now
and forget about it!!!
-pw
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:13:41 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/26/2024 10:13 AM, PW wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 07:27:28 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/25/2024 8:49 PM, PW wrote:
Not going to get Dragon's Dogma II Justisaur?
Maybe eventually. I'm finding 1 very repetitive at this point and
getting a bit bored with it. 90% of the game is fighting bandits,
goblins, wolves, zombies & skeletons which currently offer no challenge, >>>> and leveling has slowed to a trickle. I miss the variety and some of
the difficulty of Souls games (except ER which gets a bit repetitive.) >>>> I suppose I could start over on hard mode, but that would just make it >>>> harder not have any more variety. I'm on the edge of quitting, but
trying to push forward the main quests now to get it over with or
somewhere more challenging & different monsters.
The only real challenge in the last 10 levels or so has been the luck of >>>> avoiding me or my NPCs getting picked up and dropped off cliffs by
fliers or pushed off to our deaths.
At least with the changing classes every 11 levels that the build guide >>>> I'm using that gives me some variety as I learn how to fight as a
different class, but the levels have slowed down considerably at 41
(there's 200 in total, I hope I don't have to go through all of them to >>>> finish the game)
Also 2 currently has some severe performance issues on PC that are being >>>> looked into, and there's complaints it's littered with MTX.
I'm thinking of giving Monster Hunter a third try again as there's
supposed to be a lot of monster variety, I don't know if I can get past >>>> the apparently endless extremely cringe cutscenes though.
*--
Yes, some of the Steam reviews of 2 point out that the game barely run
on super computers so I doubt mine could handle it, even though it
isn't that old.
Just saw another post about the sorcerer being nerfed to hell, There's
only 4 spells now, and even those have been nerfed. I think that's the
last nail in the coffin for DD2.
Which Monster Hunter?
The only one I have is World.
*--
Don't know what that means.
Just read that there is only one save game, just like Elden Ring.
Well, I put up with it with ER for hundreds of hours because I found
away around it, but this game is no ER.
I would pick up and replay ER again if it wasn't for that one save
game file!
On 3/27/2024 6:59 PM, PW wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:13:41 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/26/2024 10:13 AM, PW wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 07:27:28 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/25/2024 8:49 PM, PW wrote:
Not going to get Dragon's Dogma II Justisaur?
Maybe eventually. I'm finding 1 very repetitive at this point and
getting a bit bored with it. 90% of the game is fighting bandits,
goblins, wolves, zombies & skeletons which currently offer no challenge, >>>>> and leveling has slowed to a trickle. I miss the variety and some of >>>>> the difficulty of Souls games (except ER which gets a bit repetitive.) >>>>> I suppose I could start over on hard mode, but that would just make it >>>>> harder not have any more variety. I'm on the edge of quitting, but
trying to push forward the main quests now to get it over with or
somewhere more challenging & different monsters.
The only real challenge in the last 10 levels or so has been the luck of >>>>> avoiding me or my NPCs getting picked up and dropped off cliffs by
fliers or pushed off to our deaths.
At least with the changing classes every 11 levels that the build guide >>>>> I'm using that gives me some variety as I learn how to fight as a
different class, but the levels have slowed down considerably at 41
(there's 200 in total, I hope I don't have to go through all of them to >>>>> finish the game)
Also 2 currently has some severe performance issues on PC that are being >>>>> looked into, and there's complaints it's littered with MTX.
I'm thinking of giving Monster Hunter a third try again as there's
supposed to be a lot of monster variety, I don't know if I can get past >>>>> the apparently endless extremely cringe cutscenes though.
*--
Yes, some of the Steam reviews of 2 point out that the game barely run >>>> on super computers so I doubt mine could handle it, even though it
isn't that old.
Just saw another post about the sorcerer being nerfed to hell, There's
only 4 spells now, and even those have been nerfed. I think that's the
last nail in the coffin for DD2.
Which Monster Hunter?
The only one I have is World.
*--
Don't know what that means.
Just read that there is only one save game, just like Elden Ring.
Well, I put up with it with ER for hundreds of hours because I found
away around it, but this game is no ER.
I would pick up and replay ER again if it wasn't for that one save
game file!
DD:DA has no reason for it either. It's not like ER/DS where you don't >really die, being undead, it also doesn't keep your save up to date like >ER/DS. It only auto-saves at area transitions. It just reloads your
last save, even if that was 30 minutes ago (had that happen once, my
save early save often reflexes kicked in after that.)
It's also worse as you can only have one character on that save file.
Easily the stupidest and worst 'feature' of DD:DA is the save system.
Fortunately I looked up where the saves are and made some backups, not >enough, and not early enough as I didn't save a backup of my first
character, but some.
I actually somewhat appreciate the ER/DS saves as you can have 10
characters (still not enough for me, but workable with backups.) You
don't ever have to worry about interrupting the game to save. It's
still a good idea to make some backups of the save file in-case you get >yourself in a bad place (really not a problem except in DS1.)
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 09:16:44 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/27/2024 6:59 PM, PW wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:13:41 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/26/2024 10:13 AM, PW wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 07:27:28 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 3/25/2024 8:49 PM, PW wrote:
Not going to get Dragon's Dogma II Justisaur?
Maybe eventually. I'm finding 1 very repetitive at this point and >>>>>> getting a bit bored with it. 90% of the game is fighting bandits, >>>>>> goblins, wolves, zombies & skeletons which currently offer no challenge, >>>>>> and leveling has slowed to a trickle. I miss the variety and some of >>>>>> the difficulty of Souls games (except ER which gets a bit repetitive.) >>>>>> I suppose I could start over on hard mode, but that would just make it >>>>>> harder not have any more variety. I'm on the edge of quitting, but >>>>>> trying to push forward the main quests now to get it over with or
somewhere more challenging & different monsters.
The only real challenge in the last 10 levels or so has been the luck of >>>>>> avoiding me or my NPCs getting picked up and dropped off cliffs by >>>>>> fliers or pushed off to our deaths.
At least with the changing classes every 11 levels that the build guide >>>>>> I'm using that gives me some variety as I learn how to fight as a
different class, but the levels have slowed down considerably at 41 >>>>>> (there's 200 in total, I hope I don't have to go through all of them to >>>>>> finish the game)
Also 2 currently has some severe performance issues on PC that are being >>>>>> looked into, and there's complaints it's littered with MTX.
I'm thinking of giving Monster Hunter a third try again as there's >>>>>> supposed to be a lot of monster variety, I don't know if I can get past >>>>>> the apparently endless extremely cringe cutscenes though.
*--
Yes, some of the Steam reviews of 2 point out that the game barely run >>>>> on super computers so I doubt mine could handle it, even though it
isn't that old.
Just saw another post about the sorcerer being nerfed to hell, There's >>>> only 4 spells now, and even those have been nerfed. I think that's the >>>> last nail in the coffin for DD2.
Which Monster Hunter?
The only one I have is World.
*--
Don't know what that means.
Just read that there is only one save game, just like Elden Ring.
Well, I put up with it with ER for hundreds of hours because I found
away around it, but this game is no ER.
I would pick up and replay ER again if it wasn't for that one save
game file!
DD:DA has no reason for it either. It's not like ER/DS where you don't
really die, being undead, it also doesn't keep your save up to date like
ER/DS. It only auto-saves at area transitions. It just reloads your
last save, even if that was 30 minutes ago (had that happen once, my
save early save often reflexes kicked in after that.)
It's also worse as you can only have one character on that save file.
Easily the stupidest and worst 'feature' of DD:DA is the save system.
Fortunately I looked up where the saves are and made some backups, not
enough, and not early enough as I didn't save a backup of my first
character, but some.
I actually somewhat appreciate the ER/DS saves as you can have 10
characters (still not enough for me, but workable with backups.) You
don't ever have to worry about interrupting the game to save. It's
still a good idea to make some backups of the save file in-case you get
yourself in a bad place (really not a problem except in DS1.)
*--
Okay Justisaur. I did just buy it any way. I guess more of a test to
see if it will run on my system and if it struggles before the time is
over to refund it to Steam than I will!
But I am already sick of it because I am stuck moving rock piles at
the start of the game.
There is no way I am going to spend much time doing all the research
and spending so much money on toner and paper like I did for Elden
Ring! I probably spent about half my time researching and studying ER
as I did playing it! I sure wish I could just pick it up and start
playing ER again but since I quit almost at the end I am afraid to do
so. Plus, there is no way I have the energy and reflexes to get back
into it now. It wore me out!
If the game gets on my nerves then I will just quit playing it.
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