• The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition

    From Ant@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 25 22:46:48 2023
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/the-outer-worlds-spacers-choice-edition

    Another freebie!
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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Dec 25 18:42:12 2023
    On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 22:46:48 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/the-outer-worlds-spacers-choice-edition

    Another freebie!

    Thank you.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Dec 25 20:09:20 2023
    On 12/25/2023 2:46 PM, Ant wrote:
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/the-outer-worlds-spacers-choice-edition

    Another freebie!

    Ooh, nice! I had planned to buy the DLCs and play it again at some
    point, now I don't have to buy the DLCs!

    Thanks Ant!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Dec 29 11:56:43 2023
    On 25/12/2023 23:40, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    I'm not crazy about "The Outer Worlds". Not that it's a bad game, but
    it's not really to my taste. It's more or less what "Starfield" should
    have been (and what most people expected it to be), except as seen
    through the warped eyes of the Obsidian Entertainment developers. Its
    sense of humor just wasn't something I enjoyed, and - even as much as
    I usually like Bethesda-style RPGs, I was already getting tired of
    them by the time "The Outer Worlds" came out ("Starfield", therefore,
    hadn't a chance).

    I rather enjoyed playing it even though I wouldn't class it as a good
    game but instead all that it does it does ok. What it did suffer from
    though was an expectation that this was a spiritual successor to FO:NV
    when it's really quite different.

    Talking of FO, FO:London now has a release date of end of first quarter
    2024. Fingers crossed that the devs have done a good job and I can
    finally think that FO:4 wasn't a waste of money!

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 29 11:13:01 2023
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On 25/12/2023 23:40, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    I'm not crazy about "The Outer Worlds". Not that it's a bad game, but
    it's not really to my taste. It's more or less what "Starfield" should
    have been (and what most people expected it to be), except as seen
    through the warped eyes of the Obsidian Entertainment developers. Its
    sense of humor just wasn't something I enjoyed, and - even as much as
    I usually like Bethesda-style RPGs, I was already getting tired of
    them by the time "The Outer Worlds" came out ("Starfield", therefore,
    hadn't a chance).

    I rather enjoyed playing it even though I wouldn't class it as a good
    game but instead all that it does it does ok. What it did suffer from
    though was an expectation that this was a spiritual successor to FO:NV
    when it's really quite different.

    Talking of FO, FO:London now has a release date of end of first quarter
    2024. Fingers crossed that the devs have done a good job and I can
    finally think that FO:4 wasn't a waste of money!

    Fallout London? Wasn't that called Hellgate London?

    So what, now we're going to have Super Mutants with bad teeth?

    Xocyll

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sat Dec 30 10:21:29 2023
    On 26/12/2023 04:09, Justisaur wrote:
    On 12/25/2023 2:46 PM, Ant wrote:
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/the-outer-worlds-spacers-choice-edition >>
    Another freebie!

    Ooh, nice!  I had planned to buy the DLCs and play it again at some
    point, now I don't have to buy the DLCs!

    Thanks Ant!


    I have both of the DLC's and rather disappointed to be honest. The big
    problem I had with the first one is in navigating the map as you didn't
    just have to go in the general direction but also find the correct path
    to avoid the inaccessible parts. I found that really put me off.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to but Bethesda has always on Sat Dec 30 16:03:40 2023
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 11:13:01 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Talking of FO, FO:London now has a release date of end of first quarter >>>2024. Fingers crossed that the devs have done a good job and I can >>>finally think that FO:4 wasn't a waste of money!

    Fallout London? Wasn't that called Hellgate London?

    So what, now we're going to have Super Mutants with bad teeth?


    Fallout London is a super-mod for Fallout 4, to be released sometime
    in April 2024. Made by fans, it will be a free add-on. It roughly
    equals Fallout 4 in size (it's actually a bit larger in some
    respects), and includes an entirely new world (London, natch),
    monsters, quests, armor and weapons... pretty much everything. It is, >essentially, a brand new game in the Fallout universe... except it's
    free and not made by Bethesda.

    It's one of the things I have always liked about Bethesda, they have
    always embraced the modding community.

    Other game companies try to make it impossible to mod and, in their
    worlds 'cheat", but Bethesda has always said "have at it, lets see what
    you can do."

    Fans of the franchise are, understandably, excited.

    Here, I found a video for you that highlights its features: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgMcDNnhzag

    I was mostly just going for the funny, (Austin Powers English bad teeth
    shtick, thus super mutants with bad teeth...) but thanks for this.

    Xocyll

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Sun Dec 31 07:21:02 2023
    On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 16:03:40 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    Other game companies try to make it impossible to mod and, in their
    worlds 'cheat", but Bethesda has always said "have at it, lets see what
    you can do."

    I am a bit more jaded then that about Bethesda. Their games
    practically require modding... and I think they know it.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Dec 31 09:23:28 2023
    On 12/31/23 09:13, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 07:21:02 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 16:03:40 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    Other game companies try to make it impossible to mod and, in their
    worlds 'cheat", but Bethesda has always said "have at it, lets see what
    you can do."

    I am a bit more jaded then that about Bethesda. Their games
    practically require modding... and I think they know it.

    And Bethesda has repeatedly attempted to monetize the modding
    community too. They aren't saintly. Sure, kudos to them for not
    shutting down the modders like some companies might (Capcom, for
    instance, equates modding with piracy)...but a lot of those mods are
    made simply to correct the mistakes Bethesda refuses to fix.

    I'd say *probably* the best pro-modding companies is Valve (allows most
    mods and only blocks by file when joining official servers, workshop,
    hiring amateur devs twice to make their games)
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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Dec 31 08:16:34 2023
    On 12/31/2023 7:13 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 07:21:02 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 16:03:40 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    Other game companies try to make it impossible to mod and, in their
    worlds 'cheat", but Bethesda has always said "have at it, lets see what
    you can do."

    I am a bit more jaded then that about Bethesda. Their games
    practically require modding... and I think they know it.

    And Bethesda has repeatedly attempted to monetize the modding
    community too. They aren't saintly. Sure, kudos to them for not
    shutting down the modders like some companies might (Capcom, for
    instance, equates modding with piracy)...but a lot of those mods are
    made simply to correct the mistakes Bethesda refuses to fix.

    Except they did. Fallout '76 where it's all under their control. It
    only took them a couple years to get it to a playable state. I'm
    somewhat surprised they managed to do that.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Jan 2 10:40:40 2024
    On 30/12/2023 15:49, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 11:13:01 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
    spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Talking of FO, FO:London now has a release date of end of first quarter
    2024. Fingers crossed that the devs have done a good job and I can
    finally think that FO:4 wasn't a waste of money!

    Fallout London? Wasn't that called Hellgate London?

    So what, now we're going to have Super Mutants with bad teeth?


    Fallout London is a super-mod for Fallout 4, to be released sometime
    in April 2024. Made by fans, it will be a free add-on. It roughly
    equals Fallout 4 in size (it's actually a bit larger in some
    respects), and includes an entirely new world (London, natch),
    monsters, quests, armor and weapons... pretty much everything. It is, essentially, a brand new game in the Fallout universe... except it's
    free and not made by Bethesda.

    Fans of the franchise are, understandably, excited.

    Here, I found a video for you that highlights its features: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgMcDNnhzag


    I'm very much looking forward to it especially as I found FO:4
    disappointing. The reason I loved FO:3/NV was you could just go out
    there and explore the wasteland for all of those mini-stories. FO:4 just
    didn't seem to have that but instead a lot more of kill bad guys grab
    the loot locations. Then there was the base building, did anyone ask for
    that.

    Overall it felt that they'd just made a game with lots of cheap content
    so that could still reach that 80+ hours of game time claim.

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Jan 2 16:37:40 2024
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> writes:

    I'm very much looking forward to it especially as I found FO:4
    disappointing. The reason I loved FO:3/NV was you could just go out
    there and explore the wasteland for all of those mini-stories. FO:4
    just didn't seem to have that but instead a lot more of kill bad guys
    grab the loot locations. Then there was the base building, did anyone
    ask for that.

    I'm really looking forward to FO:London as well and hoping for the
    best. Looks like it might be all FO content for this decade if FO5 is
    sometime in 2030s... Not considering '76 although I might play it at
    some point.

    I guess I've found Fallout 3, NV and 4 fairly disappointing all but also interesting. In my FO4 playthrough I ended up just grinding the never
    ending repeato quests to level up to where I wanted to be, then played
    through some faction quests and main plot. Most different endings too. I
    kinda wanted to do the peace ending but that felt like too much work.

    But still, my sneaker build was fun to play. Boom! Headshot! is fun and
    even more fun with a 3x sneak attack bonus (or however much it was.)

    Base building and Minutemen I skipped almost completely. I guess biggest
    use of that interface was to break stuff up to component parts.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Jan 2 09:36:46 2024
    On 1/2/2024 2:40 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 30/12/2023 15:49, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 11:13:01 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>> spammer to utter  "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Talking of FO, FO:London now has a release date of end of first quarter >>>> 2024. Fingers crossed that the devs have done a good job and I can
    finally think that FO:4 wasn't a waste of money!

    Fallout London?    Wasn't that called Hellgate London?

    So what, now we're going to have Super Mutants with bad teeth?


    Fallout London is a super-mod for Fallout 4, to be released sometime
    in April 2024. Made by fans, it will be a free add-on. It roughly
    equals Fallout 4 in size (it's actually a bit larger in some
    respects), and includes an entirely new world (London, natch),
    monsters, quests, armor and weapons... pretty much everything. It is,
    essentially, a brand new game in the Fallout universe... except it's
    free and not made by Bethesda.

    Fans of the franchise are, understandably, excited.

    Here, I found a video for you that highlights its features:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgMcDNnhzag


    I'm very much looking forward to it especially as I found FO:4
    disappointing. The reason I loved FO:3/NV was you could just go out
    there and explore the wasteland for all of those mini-stories. FO:4 just didn't seem to have that but instead a lot more of kill bad guys grab
    the loot locations. Then there was the base building, did anyone ask for that.

    Overall it felt that they'd just made a game with lots of cheap content
    so that could still reach that 80+ hours of game time claim.


    Hmm. I think you just hit the nail on the head of why I didn't care
    much for a lot of open world games. There's nothing really interesting
    to find or do, it's just a lot of the same thing with minor variation
    over and over. There was still a lot more things to stumble across in
    fallout 4 than a lot of open world games.

    Also one of the reasons I didn't care much for NV, it was fairly linear
    without the usual random things you could find for the most part.

    Funny enough I remember '76 as having a lot more interesting stuff to
    stumble upon than either NV or fallout 4.

    Then there's all the AC/FC games and the like, which really have very
    little interesting beyond some more of the same guys to sneak past/kill.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Tue Jan 2 17:26:13 2024
    On 1/2/24 11:36, Justisaur wrote:
    On 1/2/2024 2:40 AM, JAB wrote:
    <snip>
    Overall it felt that they'd just made a game with lots of cheap
    content so that could still reach that 80+ hours of game time claim.


    Hmm.  I think you just hit the nail on the head of why I didn't care
    much for a lot of open world games.  There's nothing really interesting
    to find or do, it's just a lot of the same thing with minor variation
    over and over.  There was still a lot more things to stumble across in fallout 4 than a lot of open world games.

    Yeah. As I remember someone saying, "It's better to have a well-designed
    linear experience than a poorly designed non-linear experience."

    Also one of the reasons I didn't care much for NV, it was fairly linear without the usual random things you could find for the most part.

    Funny enough I remember '76 as having a lot more interesting stuff to
    stumble upon than either NV or fallout 4.

    Then there's all the AC/FC games and the like, which really have very
    little interesting beyond some more of the same guys to sneak past/kill.


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