• Re: A CSIPGA Year In Review

    From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Fri Dec 22 13:40:46 2023
    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 11:01:54 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Because we can't let the year end without doing one of these things.
    And no, it's not a 'best game of 2023' list... not yet at least. I'm
    sure we'll get one of those inevitably, though. This is more of a
    "gaming/pc news that triggered discussion in this newsgroup over the
    past year.

    So... where to start? Here are a few stories of note that I remember:


    * The death of crypto may not be the most important thing to affect PC
    gaming (and it was already on a downward slide in 2022) but it's quite >welcome to see that skeevy corner of the Internet get a much-deserved >comeuppance.

    That really happened? I guess I missed the memo... I made just under
    35k from crypto between Dec of last year and this year. Front pocket
    money to some sure, but I'll take it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Dec 23 10:21:42 2023
    On 22/12/2023 16:01, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Because we can't let the year end without doing one of these things.
    And no, it's not a 'best game of 2023' list... not yet at least. I'm
    sure we'll get one of those inevitably, though. This is more of a
    "gaming/pc news that triggered discussion in this newsgroup over the
    past year.

    So... where to start? Here are a few stories of note that I remember:


    * The death of crypto may not be the most important thing to affect PC
    gaming (and it was already on a downward slide in 2022) but it's quite welcome to see that skeevy corner of the Internet get a much-deserved comeuppance. Pretty much everyone other than die-hard crypto-bros have recognized that crypto and NFTs are /NOT/ the next-big-thing and have
    backed off appropriately. Well, except for Ubisoft, which still has an unfathomable attraction to the idea. But on the whole, the news looks
    good: no NFTs in our games, thank God! Maybe no more NFT discussions
    in c.s.i.p.g.action too!


    I'm glad to see the back of NFT's as if they'd taken off I think that
    would be detrimental to the industry as a whole. The only shame it the
    number of people who have been duped by hype and lost money they really
    can't afford. Not that the crypo-bros care about that as long as they
    got a slice of the action before it all started falling apart.

    Saying that I do expect it to be pushed again at some point.

    * The Microsoft/Activision merger finally went through... much to my surprise. I really thought ONE of the various agencies (in multiple countries) that objected to the merger, but I admit it: I was wrong. I
    still don't think the deal is good for the CONSUMER (the industry
    needs more diversification, not less) but it's a moot point now. But
    at least Kotick is out (well, technically, not until Dec 29th: put it
    on your calendar and we'll hoist a glass together to his long-overdue dismissal), even if the rest of the leadership at Activision is
    remaining in place. Still, Kotick getting kicked out is one glimmer of
    light in an otherwise gloomy tale.


    The UK did get some concessions out of them but exactly why the ended up agreeing I don't know. It certainly wouldn't surprise me considering the
    makeup of our current government that political pressure was put on them
    to wave it through. After all this is the same government that spent two
    years having an enquiry into lootboxes only for Nadine Dorries (or Mad
    Nad as she's normally know) to completely ignore the main conclusion
    that they should be classed as gambling as in her words that may have unintended consequences.
    * Meanwhile, MS is going the other way, and tries to ban accounts that
    use 'unofficial' accessories from its XBox platform. Nominally in the
    name of cutting down on cheaters, its mostly affected people with disabilities who need accessibility devices to play (that it lines Microsoft's coffers by forcing people to use Microsoft's own hardware,
    or devices where the manufacturer has paid Microsoft for a license is,
    I'm sure, completely coincidental). It also reinforces Microsoft's
    vision of how they'd like gaming to be: with devices completely under
    their thumb.


    That one has a strong whiff of we need to come up with an excuse of why
    we are doing it but as that reason isn't unpalatable let's come up with something that means we are doing it 'for the gamers'. It reminds me of
    when the company that ran the canteen at work refused to give out hot
    water at a nominal fee. The reason they gave was due to safety concerns.
    The problem was that the person who'd sent that e-mail out had forgotten
    to remove the e-mail trail which effectively said this is because we
    want people to buy our expensive tea and coffee but let's concentrate on
    safety concerns.


    * Which is, perhaps, a good thing now that Unity has tried to take
    itself out of the picture. God, what a fiasco that was! Its attempt to migrate to a new payment structure did NOT go well with its users, and
    even though it ultimately reversed course, it lost a lot of the trust
    of developers. Is it dead? No... but a lot of Indie developers are now looking at alternatives.


    What a fiasco that was. I can understand their position of some
    companies are making big profits out of our IP basically on the cheap
    but how can it have got to the stage it did without pushback internally
    from some people with clout to fail to mention that this is a really,
    really bad idea.

    * 2023 is also the last year for Windows 7 gamers; starting 2024,
    Steam will no longer support the OS. Many other applications also
    stopped supporting the OS (including Chrome and Firefox). Microsoft,
    of course, abandoned the platform years ago, but it's really apps
    which keep an OS alive, and with fewer programs supporting the OS, it
    may finally be time for Win7 die-hards to migrate to another OS (for
    what its worth, despite threats to the contrary, the Win7-to-Win10
    free migration path still works).


    I remember I was annoyed that when I finally went from 7 to 10 it was no
    longer free. As you say not quite though, they just have well put a box
    with, please click yes to pay and no to get it for free.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Dec 23 09:42:29 2023
    On 12/23/2023 2:21 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 22/12/2023 16:01, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Because we can't let the year end without doing one of these things.
    And no, it's not a 'best game of 2023' list... not yet at least. I'm
    sure we'll get one of those inevitably, though. This is more of a
    "gaming/pc news that triggered discussion in this newsgroup over the
    past year.

    So... where to start? Here are a few stories of note that I remember:


    * The death of crypto may not be the most important thing to affect PC
    gaming (and it was already on a downward slide in 2022) but it's quite
    welcome to see that skeevy corner of the Internet get a much-deserved
    comeuppance. Pretty much everyone other than die-hard crypto-bros have
    recognized that crypto and NFTs are /NOT/ the next-big-thing and have
    backed off appropriately. Well, except for Ubisoft, which still has an
    unfathomable attraction to the idea. But on the whole, the news looks
    good: no NFTs in our games, thank God! Maybe no more NFT discussions
    in c.s.i.p.g.action too!


    I'm glad to see the back of NFT's as if they'd taken off I think that
    would be detrimental to the industry as a whole. The only shame it the
    number of people who have been duped by hype and lost money they really
    can't afford. Not that the crypo-bros care about that as long as they
    got a slice of the action before it all started falling apart.

    Saying that I do expect it to be pushed again at some point.

    The same cons keep coming around again, just with different names and occasionally a change of shirt.

    * The Microsoft/Activision merger finally went through... much to my
    surprise. I really thought ONE of the various agencies (in multiple
    countries) that objected to the merger, but I admit it: I was wrong. I
    still don't think the deal is good for the CONSUMER (the industry
    needs more diversification, not less) but it's a moot point now. But
    at least Kotick is out (well, technically, not until Dec 29th: put it
    on your calendar and we'll hoist a glass together to his long-overdue
    dismissal), even if the rest of the leadership at Activision is
    remaining in place. Still, Kotick getting kicked out is one glimmer of
    light in an otherwise gloomy tale.


    The UK did get some concessions out of them but exactly why the ended up agreeing I don't know. It certainly wouldn't surprise me considering the makeup of our current government that political pressure was put on them
    to wave it through. After all this is the same government that spent two years having an enquiry into lootboxes only for Nadine Dorries (or Mad
    Nad as she's normally know) to completely ignore the main conclusion
    that they should be classed as gambling as in her words that may have unintended consequences.
    * Meanwhile, MS is going the other way, and tries to ban accounts that
    use 'unofficial' accessories from its XBox platform. Nominally in the
    name of cutting down on cheaters, its mostly affected people with
    disabilities who need accessibility devices to play (that it lines
    Microsoft's coffers by forcing people to use Microsoft's own hardware,
    or devices where the manufacturer has paid Microsoft for a license is,
    I'm sure, completely coincidental). It also reinforces Microsoft's
    vision of how they'd like gaming to be: with devices completely under
    their thumb.


    That one has a strong whiff of we need to come up with an excuse of why
    we are doing it but as that reason isn't unpalatable let's come up with something that means we are doing it 'for the gamers'. It reminds me of
    when the company that ran the canteen at work refused to give out hot
    water at a nominal fee. The reason they gave was due to safety concerns.
    The problem was that the person who'd sent that e-mail out had forgotten
    to remove the e-mail trail which effectively said this is because we
    want people to buy our expensive tea and coffee but let's concentrate on safety concerns.

    Criminals in general are stupid and/or socially "blind". The corporate sub-group of criminals are only fractionally smarter.


    * Which is, perhaps, a good thing now that Unity has tried to take
    itself out of the picture. God, what a fiasco that was! Its attempt to
    migrate to a new payment structure did NOT go well with its users, and
    even though it ultimately reversed course, it lost a lot of the trust
    of developers. Is it dead? No... but a lot of Indie developers are now
    looking at alternatives.


    What a fiasco that was. I can understand their position of some
    companies are making big profits out of our IP basically on the cheap
    but how can it have got to the stage it did without pushback internally
    from some people with clout to fail to mention that this is a really,
    really bad idea.

    Because they either got fired before they could say it by people who
    knew they would or got fired for saying it later.

    * 2023 is also the last year for Windows 7 gamers; starting 2024,
    Steam will no longer support the OS. Many other applications also
    stopped supporting the OS (including Chrome and Firefox).  Microsoft,
    of course, abandoned the platform years ago, but it's really apps
    which keep an OS alive, and with fewer programs supporting the OS, it
    may finally be time for Win7 die-hards to migrate to another OS (for
    what its worth, despite threats to the contrary, the Win7-to-Win10
    free migration path still works).


    I remember I was annoyed that when I finally went from 7 to 10 it was no longer free. As you say not quite though, they just have well put a box
    with, please click yes to pay and no to get it for free.


    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 23 12:54:26 2023
    The Embracer group's collapse and resulting closing of studios is an ongoing disaster. I just read of another abrupt closing, the Banner Saga studio.

    rms

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From David Goodwin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 24 09:35:48 2023
    In article <ujaboile5bvdrkv1eokg3n1n5lisedb3iq@4ax.com>, spallshurgenson@gmail.com says...
    * Starfield's release and subsequent 'flop' is newsworthy too... even
    if it didn't get as much discussion here as it probably should have.
    Of course, calling it a flop is unfair; it sold fairly well for
    Bethesda. But for such an eagerly anticipated game, it should have
    sold a lot better, and the general response to the game was an
    overwhelming "meh". For a variety of reasons, Bethesda's latest opus
    just didn't attract the same devotion and attraction as its earlier
    titles.



    I completely forgot this even came out. It looked interesting at the
    time and one or two reviews I read (I think destructoid was one) were
    quite positive. But I don't have the GPU to play it and buying a new one
    hasn't been a priority.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to David Goodwin on Sat Dec 23 21:28:13 2023
    On 12/23/2023 12:35 PM, David Goodwin wrote:
    In article <ujaboile5bvdrkv1eokg3n1n5lisedb3iq@4ax.com>, spallshurgenson@gmail.com says...
    * Starfield's release and subsequent 'flop' is newsworthy too... even
    if it didn't get as much discussion here as it probably should have.
    Of course, calling it a flop is unfair; it sold fairly well for
    Bethesda. But for such an eagerly anticipated game, it should have
    sold a lot better, and the general response to the game was an
    overwhelming "meh". For a variety of reasons, Bethesda's latest opus
    just didn't attract the same devotion and attraction as its earlier
    titles.



    I completely forgot this even came out. It looked interesting at the
    time and one or two reviews I read (I think destructoid was one) were
    quite positive. But I don't have the GPU to play it and buying a new one hasn't been a priority.

    Everything I've read on it has made it sound like the boringest of
    boring games. I suppose that fits for a realistic space rpg though.

    I'm sure I'll play it at some point, but it's so far down the list of
    things I might want to play, and I'm willing to wait for a deep discount
    and patching to slow down.

    If you want Fallout set 'in space' there's Outer Worlds which still
    deserves a replay with the DLCs for me.

    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
    (\_/)\
    `-'\ `--.___,
    ¶¬'\( ,_.-'
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    ^'

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Sun Dec 24 20:03:14 2023
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Though to be precise, I upgraded using a USB key and not from
    Microsoft's upgrade server directly... largely because I couldn't
    figure out (nor did I try very hard) how to trigger it. Downloading
    the ISO to a USB disk and launching the setup.exe was just simpler.

    You can also do it without a USB disk by downloading the ISO and
    extracting it to a directory or mounting it as a virtual drive and then
    running setup.exe. That's how I upgraded Windows 7 to 10.

    --
    l/ // Ross Ridge -- The Great HTMU
    [oo][oo] rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
    -()-/()/ http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068/
    db //

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ross Ridge on Sun Dec 24 12:17:06 2023
    On 12/24/2023 12:03 PM, Ross Ridge wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    Though to be precise, I upgraded using a USB key and not from
    Microsoft's upgrade server directly... largely because I couldn't
    figure out (nor did I try very hard) how to trigger it. Downloading
    the ISO to a USB disk and launching the setup.exe was just simpler.

    You can also do it without a USB disk by downloading the ISO and
    extracting it to a directory or mounting it as a virtual drive and then running setup.exe. That's how I upgraded Windows 7 to 10.

    That's supposed to work from 10 to 11 as well, but having tried it on
    some spares, I've never got it to work. It did work from 7 and 8 to 10 though.

    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
    (\_/)\
    `-'\ `--.___,
    ¶¬'\( ,_.-'
    \\
    ^'

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Mon Dec 25 09:55:29 2023
    On 23/12/2023 17:42, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    Criminals in general are stupid and/or socially "blind".  The corporate sub-group of criminals are only fractionally smarter.

    Our current government seems to make a habit of stupidity should be no
    bar to holding high office.

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