• Re: 2023 c.s.i.p.g.action Holiday Give-Away Day #16

    From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Sat Dec 16 21:54:03 2023
    On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 21:36:43 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Stacking
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/115110/Stacking/
    Yes, it's another adventure game. What can I say; I
    have a 'type'. But this is a fun and unique game
    from "Double Fine" (the same developers who created
    the "Psychonauts" games, to give you an idea of its
    quirkiness. Featuring a 0QM24cast of Russian nesting
    dolls, the game's gimmick - by jumping into
    appropriate characters to get past obstacles - is
    clever, and the setting is bizarre and adorable.
    The game is fairly66PN8 short, though, and lacks any
    serious challenge, so hard-core adventure gamers
    might be disappointed. But if4D8N4 you want an enjoyable
    adventure romp, you really can't beat this one.

    Thank you Spalls. I took this one. I don't play as many adventure
    games as I used to do but I still enjoy them. The first genre of
    computer games I ever really got into were text adventures... and then adventure games from there.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sun Dec 17 11:44:20 2023
    On 17/12/2023 02:54, Mike S. wrote:
    Thank you Spalls. I took this one. I don't play as many adventure
    games as I used to do but I still enjoy them. The first genre of
    computer games I ever really got into were text adventures... and then adventure games from there.

    I like the idea of adventure games but find the reality is I spend as
    much time looking up what the answer is as I do playing them. At that
    point I just think why carry on when I'm not actually playing the game.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Dec 17 10:44:53 2023
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 11:44:20 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I like the idea of adventure games but find the reality is I spend as
    much time looking up what the answer is as I do playing them. At that
    point I just think why carry on when I'm not actually playing the game.

    I have never finished a single text adventure or adventure game
    without getting help. I actually make maps and take notes though so I
    do try to do it myself.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Mon Dec 18 08:34:33 2023
    On 17/12/2023 15:44, Mike S. wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 11:44:20 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I like the idea of adventure games but find the reality is I spend as
    much time looking up what the answer is as I do playing them. At that
    point I just think why carry on when I'm not actually playing the game.

    I have never finished a single text adventure or adventure game
    without getting help. I actually make maps and take notes though so I
    do try to do it myself.

    I played a lot of text adventure games on the Specky 48k and think I may
    have finished one or two. It didn't help that generally you had no way
    to save your progress.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Dec 18 09:11:58 2023
    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 08:34:33 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I played a lot of text adventure games on the Specky 48k and think I may
    have finished one or two. It didn't help that generally you had no way
    to save your progress.

    I played them on the C64. I was able to save progress to disk.

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to JAB on Mon Dec 18 16:59:00 2023
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> writes:

    I played a lot of text adventure games on the Specky 48k and think I
    may have finished one or two. It didn't help that generally you had no
    way to save your progress.

    I remember some games would accept multiple commands at once. Sometimes
    if I was restarting or loading some earlier save to try some new idea
    I'd just type in a long list of commands and then lean back and watch
    the game go to whichever point... Usually games that loaded graphics
    from a slow Commodore floppy disk drive, that is.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Mon Dec 18 12:34:02 2023
    On 12/18/2023 6:11 AM, Mike S. wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 08:34:33 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I played a lot of text adventure games on the Specky 48k and think I may
    have finished one or two. It didn't help that generally you had no way
    to save your progress.

    I played them on the C64. I was able to save progress to disk.

    I have vague memories of playing a text adventure game 40+ years ago on
    a mini-mainframe my father had for his business. Ran on a 12" floppy
    disc, one-sided.

    --
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    dirty old man.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Mon Dec 18 13:18:59 2023
    On 12/18/2023 12:34 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 12/18/2023 6:11 AM, Mike S. wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 08:34:33 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I played a lot of text adventure games on the Specky 48k and think I may >>> have finished one or two. It didn't help that generally you had no way
    to save your progress.

    I played them on the C64. I was able to save progress to disk.

    I have vague memories of playing a text adventure game 40+ years ago on
    a mini-mainframe my father had for his business.  Ran on a 12" floppy
    disc, one-sided.


    Damn 12"! I've never seen those, I did see 8" a couple times, but never
    used one. We had 5+1/2" of course on the C/PM computer.

    I can't even find any real confirmation of a 12" floppy. I can find a
    few 8" pics, but not a lot. There's one with a person inserting one in
    a story about the air force retiring them in 2019. 8O

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a29539578/air-force-floppy-disks/

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Mon Dec 18 23:51:46 2023
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> writes:

    I have never finished a single text adventure or adventure game
    without getting help. I actually make maps and take notes though so I
    do try to do it myself.

    My score is near zero as well. Lucasarts, Sierra, Infocom, meh. For sure
    I finished Space Quest I and IV and the first two Monkey Island games
    but needed help on all those.

    From the olden days I remember this maze adventure called Asylum. There
    mapping the maze was the bigger problem, since the maze was a little
    nuts, it wrapped over from the edges and had some other fairly
    impossible structures too.

    The puzzles were fairly easy and object based, use x on y to get z or
    give x to y to get z. I got through a kind of intro part but then I was
    told the fun was just starting but I'd had enough of mapping that insane asylum.

    One I actually completed was called Gruds in Space (I think) on the
    C64. Another from Activision too for the most part called "Tass Times in Tonetown" but even with that I needed help because it had an annoying
    part, you had to do very specific things near the beginning in a few
    turns or you'd get killed.

    Mostly especially Activision adventures from the 80s were interesting to
    me but also quite hard. I remember playing also "Tracer Sanction" and
    "Mind Shadow" but both had these bits that made very little sense, even
    when I was later armed with a walk through.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Anssi Saari on Mon Dec 18 16:10:41 2023
    On 12/18/23 15:51, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> writes:

    I have never finished a single text adventure or adventure game
    without getting help. I actually make maps and take notes though so I
    do try to do it myself.

    My score is near zero as well. Lucasarts, Sierra, Infocom, meh. For sure
    I finished Space Quest I and IV and the first two Monkey Island games
    but needed help on all those.

    From the olden days I remember this maze adventure called Asylum. There mapping the maze was the bigger problem, since the maze was a little
    nuts, it wrapped over from the edges and had some other fairly
    impossible structures too.

    The puzzles were fairly easy and object based, use x on y to get z or
    give x to y to get z. I got through a kind of intro part but then I was
    told the fun was just starting but I'd had enough of mapping that insane asylum.

    One I actually completed was called Gruds in Space (I think) on the
    C64. Another from Activision too for the most part called "Tass Times in Tonetown" but even with that I needed help because it had an annoying
    part, you had to do very specific things near the beginning in a few
    turns or you'd get killed.

    Mostly especially Activision adventures from the 80s were interesting to
    me but also quite hard. I remember playing also "Tracer Sanction" and
    "Mind Shadow" but both had these bits that made very little sense, even
    when I was later armed with a walk through.

    I think my Text-Based completion count is at 3, though on technicalities.

    One was a kinda old text based game on a educational raspberry pi that
    was about learning about the terminal.

    The other two were text-based parody segments in larger games (Hat in
    Time and tERRORbane).
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Mon Dec 18 14:53:30 2023
    On 12/18/2023 1:18 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 12/18/2023 12:34 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 12/18/2023 6:11 AM, Mike S. wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 08:34:33 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I played a lot of text adventure games on the Specky 48k and think I
    may
    have finished one or two. It didn't help that generally you had no way >>>> to save your progress.

    I played them on the C64. I was able to save progress to disk.

    I have vague memories of playing a text adventure game 40+ years ago
    on a mini-mainframe my father had for his business.  Ran on a 12"
    floppy disc, one-sided.


    Damn 12"!  I've never seen those, I did see 8" a couple times, but never used one.  We had 5+1/2" of course on the C/PM computer.

    I can't even find any real confirmation of a 12" floppy.  I can find a
    few 8" pics, but not a lot.  There's one with a person inserting one in
    a story about the air force retiring them in 2019. 8O

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a29539578/air-force-floppy-disks/

    Maybe it was 8". It was 40+ years ago.... Whatever, it was a size that
    was never used on anything called a "Personal Computer".

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 19 03:14:04 2023
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
    <snip>
    Damn 12"! I've never seen those, I did see 8" a couple times, but never
    used one. We had 5+1/2" of course on the C/PM computer.

    5+1/4 surely, then the harder cased 3+1/2s came in with Dos.
    <snip>

    Xocyll

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  • From Werner P.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 19 10:36:01 2023
    Am 17.12.23 um 03:36 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    They've left me so many more games to give away, but I'm down to a
    single bag of Twiglets for food! Will ever I get out of this prison of generosity? 😉
    Twiglets are great, but I doubt the US friends over here will even know
    that nothing can beat a pack of hard bread sticks dunked in marmite and
    dried to perfection.

    Heck I probably am the only person outside of the UK who knows them and
    likes them!

    Also if you need food which can survive 100 years, marmite and twiglets
    are the ones you should buy!

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi on Tue Dec 19 09:17:05 2023
    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 23:51:46 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

    One I actually completed was called Gruds in Space (I think) on the
    C64. Another from Activision too for the most part called "Tass Times in >Tonetown" but even with that I needed help because it had an annoying
    part, you had to do very specific things near the beginning in a few
    turns or you'd get killed.

    I own Tass Times in Tonetown for the C64. Box, manual and all. I
    never finished it. I got stuck at some point.

    Mostly especially Activision adventures from the 80s were interesting to
    me but also quite hard. I remember playing also "Tracer Sanction" and
    "Mind Shadow" but both had these bits that made very little sense, even
    when I was later armed with a walk through.

    Tracer Sanction I never heard of but I also own Mind Shadow for the
    C64. You really are reminding me of games I have not really thought
    about in decades.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Werner P. on Tue Dec 19 07:25:59 2023
    On 12/19/2023 1:36 AM, Werner P. wrote:
    Am 17.12.23 um 03:36 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    They've left me so many more games to give away, but I'm down to a
    single bag of Twiglets for food! Will ever I get out of this prison of
    generosity? 😉
    Twiglets are great, but I doubt the US friends over here will even know
    that nothing can beat a pack of hard bread sticks dunked in marmite and
    dried to perfection.

    Heck I probably am the only person outside of the UK who knows them and
    likes them!

    Also if you need food which can survive 100 years, marmite and twiglets
    are the ones you should buy!

    What, you've never heard of the Eternal Twinkie?!

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Werner P.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 21 08:03:44 2023
    Am 19.12.23 um 16:25 schrieb Dimensional Traveler:
    Heck I probably am the only person outside of the UK who knows them
    and likes them!

    Also if you need food which can survive 100 years, marmite and
    twiglets are the ones you should buy!

    What, you've never heard of the Eternal Twinkie?!
    Not british, so no...

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Thu Dec 21 09:55:32 2023
    On 18/12/2023 14:11, Mike S. wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 08:34:33 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I played a lot of text adventure games on the Specky 48k and think I may
    have finished one or two. It didn't help that generally you had no way
    to save your progress.

    I played them on the C64. I was able to save progress to disk.

    I think there may have been the odd game that you can save progress to
    tape but as you might imagine that was less than ideal.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Werner P. on Thu Dec 21 10:16:11 2023
    On 19/12/2023 09:36, Werner P. wrote:
    Am 17.12.23 um 03:36 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    They've left me so many more games to give away, but I'm down to a
    single bag of Twiglets for food! Will ever I get out of this prison of
    generosity? 😉
    Twiglets are great, but I doubt the US friends over here will even know
    that nothing can beat a pack of hard bread sticks dunked in marmite and
    dried to perfection.

    Heck I probably am the only person outside of the UK who knows them and
    likes them!

    Also if you need food which can survive 100 years, marmite and twiglets
    are the ones you should buy!


    I'd never really thought about it but looking it up it does seem that
    Twiglets are pretty much, if not completely, a UK thing. Personally they
    are one of my favourite snacks but I try not to buy them too often as I
    just end up eating them really quickly.

    It's something I have noticed when abroad, our savoury snacks just seem
    quite different. That I can put up with but it's tea that gets me. Even
    the countries that have it don't have it very strong and don't get me
    started on the tea selections that include infusions - the hint is in
    the name, tea is called tea as that's what it's made out of. The simple solution though, I take tea bags with me as it's the one thing I really
    can't do without.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to JAB on Thu Dec 21 11:01:26 2023
    On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:55:32 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I think there may have been the odd game that you can save progress to
    tape but as you might imagine that was less than ideal.

    I started with tape drives. But I was far too young to remember them
    clearly now.. so I don't know if I ever used them to save game
    progress or not. I remember the 1541 C-64 disk drive I used far
    better.

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Fri Dec 22 10:00:11 2023
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> writes:

    I started with tape drives. But I was far too young to remember them
    clearly now.. so I don't know if I ever used them to save game
    progress or not. I remember the 1541 C-64 disk drive I used far
    better.

    I don't remember save games on tape either, I used tapes for what seems
    like a long time before getting a floppy disk drive. Probably would've
    been hard to manage. I remember I had a notebook with tape counter
    numbers and program names for some tapes and that worked fairly
    well. For save games that seems like a lot of work, especially assuming
    the save files would be rather small.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 22 09:36:25 2023
    "Werner P." <werpu@gmx.at> looked up from reading the entrails of the
    porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Am 17.12.23 um 03:36 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    They've left me so many more games to give away, but I'm down to a
    single bag of Twiglets for food! Will ever I get out of this prison of
    generosity? ?
    Twiglets are great, but I doubt the US friends over here will even know
    that nothing can beat a pack of hard bread sticks dunked in marmite and
    dried to perfection.

    I rather doubt the average American would know the difference between
    marmite and a marmoset.

    Heck I probably am the only person outside of the UK who knows them and
    likes them!

    Unlikely, lots of ex-pats in North America, and stores that cater to
    them with imports.

    Xocyll

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Fri Dec 22 08:10:22 2023
    On 12/22/2023 6:36 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    "Werner P." <werpu@gmx.at> looked up from reading the entrails of the
    porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Am 17.12.23 um 03:36 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:
    They've left me so many more games to give away, but I'm down to a
    single bag of Twiglets for food! Will ever I get out of this prison of
    generosity? ?
    Twiglets are great, but I doubt the US friends over here will even know
    that nothing can beat a pack of hard bread sticks dunked in marmite and
    dried to perfection.

    I rather doubt the average American would know the difference between
    marmite and a marmoset.

    Well, I figure there's a good chance that said average American would at
    least know that one of them is an animal....

    Heck I probably am the only person outside of the UK who knows them and
    likes them!

    Unlikely, lots of ex-pats in North America, and stores that cater to
    them with imports.

    Marmite or marmosets? :P

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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