Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this means
no more archive for new content! I figured this day would come.
Sucks, especially for the archive.
So anyone have any idea what they're talking about with other web
based alternatives? I've never found any.
Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this means no
more archive for new content! I figured this day would come. Sucks, especially for the archive.
On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 4:26:17?PM UTC-8, Metal Guru wrote:
Justisaur wrote:
Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this meansYeah, that's a shame - GG was handy when you needed to search something
no more archive for new content! I figured this day would come.
Sucks, especially for the archive.
So anyone have any idea what they're talking about with other web
based alternatives? I've never found any.
in a pinch.
AFAIK there are only paid web based clients, EasyNews comes to mind and
they are excellent (if a bit pricey) specially if you are into
binaries. Keep an eye out for end of year sales if that's of interest
to you.
I haven't been into binaries since last millennium. Holy Crap $10 a month >for EasyNews! Doesn't look like there are any other web based providers. >There's some that let you download from the web, but I don't see the point.
I'd been using Eternal September (free) with Thunderbird (free) until
today but have now switched to XanaNews (I know, don't ask) for the
time being since Thunderbird gets more bloated with every release and
the UI makes me want to poke my eyes out. But Xananews is not open
source, so I'm probably going to try lwblat in the coming days.
Yeah, I used Eternal September for awhile. I tried Thunderbird, but it's >been probably 10 years. Nothing met the convenience of GG.
I'm trying to remember what my old program was that I liked way back
in the day. At least I'll be able to set spam filters I assume, GG doesn't >filter anything and it's been getting bad again the last couple months.
It might have been xnews, but I think I remember using something
that wasn't free to buy that was better. Maybe Forte' I'm not sure I want
to spend $30 on that again, just for here. I'll look into other alternatives.
On 14/12/2023 23:20, Justisaur wrote:
Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this means no >> more archive for new content! I figured this day would come. Sucks,
especially for the archive.
Yep I still use it on my iPad but I'm not surprised that they are
removing support. When the actually servers start disappearing then I'll
be worried.
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:20:45 -0800 (PST), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this means no
more archive for new content! I figured this day would come. Sucks,
especially for the archive.
So anyone have any idea what they're talking about with other web based
alternatives? I've never found any.
Oh no! Without the constant influx of new users from GoogleNews, who
will revive twenty-year old posts and then wander away without waiting
for a response? ;-)
Fortunately, there are always premium and free alternatives. The
former are expensive, but have excellent retention; the latter are...
well, free. It is a shame, that there are no easily available
web-based interfaces for Usenet, however. Or even free solutions that
come with pre-configured client software (e.g., has the Usenet server, username, password already baked into the app's config settings) for one-click turn-key installations.
I only rarely used Google's sham Usenet... mostly to see if my posts
were actually propagating out or if they had gotten stuck somewhere
;-) This closure is doubly shameful, since Google has the largest
Usenet archive anywhere, and - as many GoogleNews necro-posters have
shown over the years - that archive remains a useful resource.
So... what are the odds Google will transfer its Usenet archive over
to archive.org?
Oh no! Without the constant influx of new users from GoogleNews, who
will revive twenty-year old posts and then wander away without waiting
for a response? ;-)
Why would you have to shell out again, just use the existing ancient
version of Agent you have.
Still using 2.0/32.640 on Eternal September. Works just fine, basic
usenet hasn't changed really.
Xocyll
On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 3:43:24 AM UTC-8, Xocyll wrote:
Justisaur <just...@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 4:26:17?PM UTC-8, Metal Guru wrote:Why would you have to shell out again, just use the existing ancient
Justisaur wrote:
Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this meansYeah, that's a shame - GG was handy when you needed to search something >>>> in a pinch.
no more archive for new content! I figured this day would come.
Sucks, especially for the archive.
So anyone have any idea what they're talking about with other web
based alternatives? I've never found any.
AFAIK there are only paid web based clients, EasyNews comes to mind and >>>> they are excellent (if a bit pricey) specially if you are into
binaries. Keep an eye out for end of year sales if that's of interest
to you.
I haven't been into binaries since last millennium. Holy Crap $10 a month >>> for EasyNews! Doesn't look like there are any other web based providers. >>> There's some that let you download from the web, but I don't see the point. >>>
I'd been using Eternal September (free) with Thunderbird (free) until
today but have now switched to XanaNews (I know, don't ask) for the
time being since Thunderbird gets more bloated with every release and
the UI makes me want to poke my eyes out. But Xananews is not open
source, so I'm probably going to try lwblat in the coming days.
Yeah, I used Eternal September for awhile. I tried Thunderbird, but it's >>> been probably 10 years. Nothing met the convenience of GG.
I'm trying to remember what my old program was that I liked way back
in the day. At least I'll be able to set spam filters I assume, GG doesn't >>> filter anything and it's been getting bad again the last couple months.
It might have been xnews, but I think I remember using something
that wasn't free to buy that was better. Maybe Forte' I'm not sure I want >>> to spend $30 on that again, just for here. I'll look into other alternatives.
version of Agent you have.
Still using 2.0/32.640 on Eternal September. Works just fine, basic
usenet hasn't changed really.
LOL. I don't have it anymore, well maybe on some ancient HD
backup I'd have to dig through, and that's a low probability.
There was a free version at some point, looks like you can't do
killfiles with the free version though which is essential with all
the spam these days.
I apparently still had Thunderbird set up from the last time I tried
to use it 4 years ago, I'll give that a go.
I'm trying to remember what my old program was that I liked way back
in the day. At least I'll be able to set spam filters I assume, GG doesn't >filter anything and it's been getting bad again the last couple months.
Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm trying to remember what my old program was that I liked way back
in the day. At least I'll be able to set spam filters I assume, GG doesn't >> filter anything and it's been getting bad again the last couple months.
Eternal September seems to do its own spam filtering. I don't see any,
at least not to any of the newsgroups I follow that regularily get
legitimate posts. I see the odd bit of spam in newsgroups that get few
if any real posts these days.
Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this means no
more archive for new content! I figured this day would come. Sucks, especially for the archive.
So anyone have any idea what they're talking about with other web based alternatives? I've never found any.
On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 10:32:41 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh no! Without the constant influx of new users from GoogleNews, who
will revive twenty-year old posts and then wander away without waiting
for a response? ;-)
This is exactly what I was thinking when reading the original post for
this thread.
I've been using Eternal September and Thunderbird for I can't remember
how many years now without any issues.
On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:20:45 -0800 (PST), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this means no >>more archive for new content! I figured this day would come. Sucks, >>especially for the archive.
So anyone have any idea what they're talking about with other web based >>alternatives? I've never found any.
Oh no! Without the constant influx of new users from GoogleNews, who
will revive twenty-year old posts and then wander away without waiting
for a response? ;-)
Fortunately, there are always premium and free alternatives. The
former are expensive, but have excellent retention; the latter are...
well, free. It is a shame, that there are no easily available
web-based interfaces for Usenet, however. Or even free solutions that
come with pre-configured client software (e.g., has the Usenet server, >username, password already baked into the app's config settings) for >one-click turn-key installations.
I only rarely used Google's sham Usenet... mostly to see if my posts
were actually propagating out or if they had gotten stuck somewhere
;-) This closure is doubly shameful, since Google has the largest
Usenet archive anywhere, and - as many GoogleNews necro-posters have
shown over the years - that archive remains a useful resource.
So... what are the odds Google will transfer its Usenet archive over
to archive.org?
Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm trying to remember what my old program was that I liked way back
in the day. At least I'll be able to set spam filters I assume, GG doesn't >>filter anything and it's been getting bad again the last couple months.
Eternal September seems to do its own spam filtering. I don't see any,
at least not to any of the newsgroups I follow that regularily get
legitimate posts. I see the odd bit of spam in newsgroups that get few
if any real posts these days.
Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> writes:
Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this means no
more archive for new content! I figured this day would come. Sucks,
especially for the archive.
So anyone have any idea what they're talking about with other web based
alternatives? I've never found any.
I don't know a web based alternative for reading and posting, unless https://narkive.com/ is one? Not sure. Sometimes my searches find hits
in old Usenet posts in narkive.com.
Someone linked https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com/ in news.groups which
has an archive but it's only accessible via NNTP.
I don't know any Windows based newsreaders either, or I've heard people
use and complain about Thunderbird. I only use it for email. Well, of
course, my beloved Gnus would work in Windows too but has a bit of a
learning curve, to put it mildly.
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> writes:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 10:32:41 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh no! Without the constant influx of new users from GoogleNews, who
will revive twenty-year old posts and then wander away without waiting
for a response? ;-)
This is exactly what I was thinking when reading the original post for
this thread.
I'd assume Google took this action now due to the excessive spamming campaigns recently.
I'd assume Google took this action now due to the excessive spamming >campaigns recently.
Justisaur wrote:
Well so much for my preferred way to read and post. Also this means
no more archive for new content! I figured this day would come.
Sucks, especially for the archive.
That's the thing that worries me. Are they going to release the archive
they bought from Deja News in 2001?
It's going to be a massive work to download and save everything before
they close in february.
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