• Re: 2023 c.s.i.p.g.action Holiday Give-Away Day #10

    From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Sun Dec 10 10:23:37 2023
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 10:17:32 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    * Orbital Racer
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/723100/Orbital_Racer/
    There are times when you can't judge a game by its
    cover (or title). That's not the case here. "Orbital
    Racer" is0GWW8 exactly what it sounds like: a game where
    you race spaceships in space (although not necessarily
    always in orbit... so I guess maybe the title /is/ a
    bit misleading). It's notYINMA a deep game, it's not a
    long game. It's a racer and - like most of its type -
    after a dozen or so races, you'll have seen all there
    is to see. But the races themselves are fun, it's
    a pretty game, and the 2HZ8Tship designs are neat. It's
    not a classic, but it's a neat palette cleanser
    between bigger, more robust games.

    I am not into racing games... even if they are in space. I'll pass.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Dec 12 09:02:37 2023
    On 11/12/2023 14:24, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Also, traditionally, it's "moot point", because English is weird.
    Arguably, 'mute point' fits better - it's a no-longer salient issue,
    so why talk about it? - but the 'correct' terminology is moot.
    Although with language changing, who's to say what's correct anymore?
    So maybe it/is/ 'mute point' now? I repeat: English is weird.

    Moot is even worse as on its own it's used to mean a point of debate but
    add point to it and it means a point not worth debating. Is mute point
    correct, I wouldn't say it currently isn't as I don't see it as common
    usage and that's how we derive what's correct. Now that may change as
    for example acronym has. It's now pretty common to see that used interchangeably with abbreviation instead of it's more 'correct' meaning.

    I hold two contradictory positions as for me the English language is
    just there to communicate, and does change over time, but on the other
    hand every time I see 'with baited breath' I let out a little sigh of disappointment even though I know what is meant.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Dec 12 08:40:59 2023
    On 12/12/2023 1:02 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 14:24, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Also, traditionally, it's "moot point", because English is weird.
    Arguably, 'mute point' fits better - it's a no-longer salient issue,
    so why talk about it? - but the 'correct' terminology is moot.
    Although with language changing, who's to say what's correct anymore?
    So maybe it/is/  'mute point' now? I repeat: English is weird.

    Moot is even worse as on its own it's used to mean a point of debate but
    add point to it and it means a point not worth debating. Is mute point correct, I wouldn't say it currently isn't as I don't see it as common
    usage and that's how we derive what's correct. Now that may change as
    for example acronym has. It's now pretty common to see that used interchangeably with abbreviation instead of it's more 'correct' meaning.

    I hold two contradictory positions as for me the English language is
    just there to communicate, and does change over time, but on the other
    hand every time I see 'with baited breath' I let out a little sigh of disappointment even though I know what is meant.

    English, the language of the lowest common denominator.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Wed Dec 13 09:34:57 2023
    On 12/12/2023 16:40, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 12/12/2023 1:02 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 14:24, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Also, traditionally, it's "moot point", because English is weird.
    Arguably, 'mute point' fits better - it's a no-longer salient issue,
    so why talk about it? - but the 'correct' terminology is moot.
    Although with language changing, who's to say what's correct anymore?
    So maybe it/is/  'mute point' now? I repeat: English is weird.

    Moot is even worse as on its own it's used to mean a point of debate
    but add point to it and it means a point not worth debating. Is mute
    point correct, I wouldn't say it currently isn't as I don't see it as
    common usage and that's how we derive what's correct. Now that may
    change as for example acronym has. It's now pretty common to see that
    used interchangeably with abbreviation instead of it's more 'correct'
    meaning.

    I hold two contradictory positions as for me the English language is
    just there to communicate, and does change over time, but on the other
    hand every time I see 'with baited breath' I let out a little sigh of
    disappointment even though I know what is meant.

    English, the language of the lowest common denominator.


    Also the language of Shakespeare!

    Stephen Fry does a good little monologue on the subject of grammar Nazis.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovi7uQbtKas

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Dec 13 08:39:01 2023
    On 12/13/2023 1:34 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 12/12/2023 16:40, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 12/12/2023 1:02 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 14:24, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Also, traditionally, it's "moot point", because English is weird.
    Arguably, 'mute point' fits better - it's a no-longer salient issue,
    so why talk about it? - but the 'correct' terminology is moot.
    Although with language changing, who's to say what's correct anymore?
    So maybe it/is/  'mute point' now? I repeat: English is weird.

    Moot is even worse as on its own it's used to mean a point of debate
    but add point to it and it means a point not worth debating. Is mute
    point correct, I wouldn't say it currently isn't as I don't see it as
    common usage and that's how we derive what's correct. Now that may
    change as for example acronym has. It's now pretty common to see that
    used interchangeably with abbreviation instead of it's more 'correct'
    meaning.

    I hold two contradictory positions as for me the English language is
    just there to communicate, and does change over time, but on the
    other hand every time I see 'with baited breath' I let out a little
    sigh of disappointment even though I know what is meant.

    English, the language of the lowest common denominator.


    Also the language of Shakespeare!

    Stephen Fry does a good little monologue on the subject of grammar Nazis.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovi7uQbtKas

    "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
    English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow
    words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways
    to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." -
    James Nicoll

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Thu Dec 14 08:59:58 2023
    On 13/12/2023 16:39, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 12/13/2023 1:34 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 12/12/2023 16:40, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 12/12/2023 1:02 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 14:24, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Also, traditionally, it's "moot point", because English is weird.
    Arguably, 'mute point' fits better - it's a no-longer salient issue, >>>>> so why talk about it? - but the 'correct' terminology is moot.
    Although with language changing, who's to say what's correct anymore? >>>>> So maybe it/is/  'mute point' now? I repeat: English is weird.

    Moot is even worse as on its own it's used to mean a point of debate
    but add point to it and it means a point not worth debating. Is mute
    point correct, I wouldn't say it currently isn't as I don't see it
    as common usage and that's how we derive what's correct. Now that
    may change as for example acronym has. It's now pretty common to see
    that used interchangeably with abbreviation instead of it's more
    'correct' meaning.

    I hold two contradictory positions as for me the English language is
    just there to communicate, and does change over time, but on the
    other hand every time I see 'with baited breath' I let out a little
    sigh of disappointment even though I know what is meant.

    English, the language of the lowest common denominator.


    Also the language of Shakespeare!

    Stephen Fry does a good little monologue on the subject of grammar Nazis.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovi7uQbtKas

    "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow
    words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways
    to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." -
    James Nicoll


    As a general rule I really don't care about someone's standard of
    English but with one exception. When people try and use the 'big words'
    but don't really understand what they mean. At the top of that list has
    to be ad hominem and strawman. The reason for that, my impression is
    that people often use them to make themselves look 'clever' but just
    achieve the exact opposite.

    See also, thinking that just saying that's fallacy X is in itself an
    argument. Who can resist pointing out that's the fallacy fallacy!

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