• Hardware Follies: I got another PC!

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 28 21:24:50 2023
    It's that time of year again, when people think about upgrading. But
    what to do with the old PCs? Well, dump them on the curb and let the
    bin men handle it!

    Or, you know, scroungers like myself.

    Yeah, I rescued another PC. And then, two days later, got rid of it
    myself (albeit in a more Earth-friendly manner by taking it to e-waste collection rather than tipping it into a skip ;-)

    So, I guess technically, I /don't/ have a new PC... not anymore.

    It wasn't much of a find anyway; a banged up 2004 Dell Dimension, it
    came with a pokey 2.4GHz Celeron processor, a mere 1GB DDR RAM, and a
    tiny 40GB HDD. Even as I claimed it, I knew it wasn't going to stay
    with me for very long. At best, I expected I might clean it up and
    resell it for a few bucks.

    But I didn't even get that far; the motherboard was an obvious victim
    of the capacitor plague, the HDD was clicking faster than a Xhosian on amphetamines, and I didn't dare even try the power supply, it looked
    so crusty. Sometimes things are junked for a reason! But I salvaged
    the RAM, CPU, an Intel modem and the optical drive (the latter two
    items going off to a colleague I've hooked onto retro-computing who is
    building a PC for some old-school gaming. I've no idea what she wants
    the modem for ;-)

    But even had the PC been in working condition, it wouldn't have been
    anything to boast about. It was designed for office work, not playing
    games.

    So in the end, not a very profitable addition to the collection, but I
    had fun cleaning, identifying and testing the old hardware. And now I
    have a 2003-era Celeron to add to my collection of old CPUs. Plus,
    better it go to e-waste where its metals might be recycled and re-used
    than buried in a landfill.

    Anyway, who knows what the future holds? The season of scrounging has
    just begun! ;-)

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  • From H1M3M@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Nov 29 12:45:05 2023
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:>
    Anyway, who knows what the future holds? The season of scrounging has
    just begun! ;-)

    I have enough old PC hardware at home to assemble a store, but what I
    would give to find a 15" working CRT SVGA screen at home...

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  • From H1M3M@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Nov 29 12:43:19 2023
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Anyway, who knows what the future holds? The season of scrounging has
    just begun! ;-)


    I have enough old PC hardware at home to assemble a store, but what I
    would give to find a 15" working CRT SVGA screen at home...

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Nov 29 07:46:35 2023
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 6:25:04 PM UTC-8, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    But I didn't even get that far; the motherboard was an obvious victim
    of the capacitor plague, the HDD was clicking faster than a Xhosian on amphetamines, and I didn't dare even try the power supply, it looked
    so crusty. Sometimes things are junked for a reason! But I salvaged
    the RAM, CPU, an Intel modem and the optical drive (the latter two
    items going off to a colleague I've hooked onto retro-computing who is building a PC for some old-school gaming. I've no idea what she wants
    the modem for ;-)

    BBSs? Hacking into secret government databases? Gotta catch all
    the 90s peripherals?

    Do those even work any more? Does anyone even have a real POTS line
    anymore?

    (I have a land line, but it's really just Telephony over internet set up by the cable company.)

    - Justisaur

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 29 07:48:07 2023
    On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 3:46:53 AM UTC-8, H1M3M wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:>
    Anyway, who knows what the future holds? The season of scrounging has
    just begun! ;-)

    I have enough old PC hardware at home to assemble a store, but what I
    would give to find a 15" working CRT SVGA screen at home...

    Oh yeah! A long time ago I got rid of a Sony CRT, I've regretted it ever since.
    Just don't have the room for that beast though.

    - Justisaur

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 29 09:46:36 2023
    On 11/29/23 05:45, H1M3M wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:>
    Anyway, who knows what the future holds? The season of scrounging has
    just begun! ;-)

    I have enough old PC hardware at home to assemble a store, but what I
    would give to find a 15" working CRT SVGA screen at home...

    You could always buy one.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to wipnoah@gmail.com on Wed Nov 29 10:43:55 2023
    On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 12:43:19 +0100, H1M3M <wipnoah@gmail.com> wrote:


    I have enough old PC hardware at home to assemble a store, but what I
    would give to find a 15" working CRT SVGA screen at home...

    I recently moved (most of) my laptops from a 'stacked like books on a
    shelf' to a more open display where I can actually use them and now
    the room looks like a shop.

    Oddly enough, I've seen several CRT monitors on the curb over the past
    few months (no idea if they were 15" though ;-). Usually it's just flat-screens, so they stuck out as unusual. I was tempted to grab one,
    but a) I haven't the room, b) I've no real nostalgia for CRTs, and c)
    I've no skill at repairing them. So I left them for the bin-men.

    Anyway, why limit yourself to a mere 15"? If you're going to saddle
    yourself with a CRT, go for a nice big 21" multi-sync! Sure, you'd
    need a big desk, but think of all the things you could put on top of
    it!!!

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 29 09:47:08 2023
    On 11/29/23 05:45, H1M3M wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:>
    Anyway, who knows what the future holds? The season of scrounging has
    just begun! ;-)

    I have enough old PC hardware at home to assemble a store, but what I
    would give to find a 15" working CRT SVGA screen at home...

    You could always buy one.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to wipnoah@gmail.com on Wed Nov 29 14:13:01 2023
    On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 12:43:19 +0100, H1M3M <wipnoah@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have enough old PC hardware at home to assemble a store, but what I
    would give to find a 15" working CRT SVGA screen at home...

    I used to have a lot of old pc hardware as well but between DosBox
    being very capable and the fact that I moved a year ago into a smaller place....I threw it all away, old monitors included. I don't miss any
    of it.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Thu Nov 30 10:39:58 2023
    On 29/11/2023 15:46, Justisaur wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 6:25:04 PM UTC-8, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    But I didn't even get that far; the motherboard was an obvious victim
    of the capacitor plague, the HDD was clicking faster than a Xhosian on
    amphetamines, and I didn't dare even try the power supply, it looked
    so crusty. Sometimes things are junked for a reason! But I salvaged
    the RAM, CPU, an Intel modem and the optical drive (the latter two
    items going off to a colleague I've hooked onto retro-computing who is
    building a PC for some old-school gaming. I've no idea what she wants
    the modem for ;-)

    BBSs? Hacking into secret government databases? Gotta catch all
    the 90s peripherals?

    Do those even work any more? Does anyone even have a real POTS line
    anymore?

    (I have a land line, but it's really just Telephony over internet set up by the cable company.)


    We still have it in the UK but it's scheduled to be switched off by 2025
    and go all digital. We got rid of our landline a couple of years ago
    when I thought why have it when its only purpose seems to be to allow
    someone with a strong Indian accent phone me up from the Microsoft
    security support team.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Nov 30 15:52:16 2023
    On 30/11/2023 15:14, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 10:39:58 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    We still have it in the UK but it's scheduled to be switched off by 2025
    and go all digital. We got rid of our landline a couple of years ago
    when I thought why have it when its only purpose seems to be to allow
    someone with a strong Indian accent phone me up from the Microsoft
    security support team.

    Oh, I get so few of those these days! I miss them. I got quite a lot
    of fun trolling them as they tried to help me fix problems on my
    computer. I'd pretend ignorance in the most basic of things, dragging
    out the phone call to ruin any hope of profitability. A few times they
    even managed to get me to connect to their servers (I either used a stand-alone sacrificial machine or a VM, of course). Too often they'd
    catch on, but still... if I wasted twenty minutes of their time, that
    meant twenty minutes less victimizing somebody more gullible.

    Sadly, I seem to have fallen off their call lists.


    Yeh, I did enjoy it for a period and found the most fun thing to do was
    just blurt out completely random things to see their reaction. So one I
    enjoyed was saying oh hang on I see a squirrel out the window and then
    launch into a conversation about how I like squirrels and if they also
    do. Bonus points if you can get to their opinion on whether burying your
    nuts is a good idea.

    I even managed to do something similar when in the UK door-to-door
    double glazing salesmen were a thing. It was a whole half-an-hour before
    I piped up, does it matter if I rent the house.

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Thu Nov 30 21:22:52 2023
    On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 21:24:50 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    It's that time of year again, when people think about upgrading. But
    what to do with the old PCs? Well, dump them on the curb and let the
    bin men handle it!

    Or, you know, scroungers like myself.

    Yeah, I rescued another PC. And then, two days later, got rid of it
    myself (albeit in a more Earth-friendly manner by taking it to e-waste >collection rather than tipping it into a skip ;-)

    So, I guess technically, I /don't/ have a new PC... not anymore.

    It wasn't much of a find anyway; a banged up 2004 Dell Dimension, it
    came with a pokey 2.4GHz Celeron processor, a mere 1GB DDR RAM, and a
    tiny 40GB HDD. Even as I claimed it, I knew it wasn't going to stay
    with me for very long. At best, I expected I might clean it up and
    resell it for a few bucks.

    But I didn't even get that far; the motherboard was an obvious victim
    of the capacitor plague, the HDD was clicking faster than a Xhosian on >amphetamines, and I didn't dare even try the power supply, it looked
    so crusty. Sometimes things are junked for a reason! But I salvaged
    the RAM, CPU, an Intel modem and the optical drive (the latter two
    items going off to a colleague I've hooked onto retro-computing who is >building a PC for some old-school gaming. I've no idea what she wants
    the modem for ;-)

    But even had the PC been in working condition, it wouldn't have been
    anything to boast about. It was designed for office work, not playing
    games.

    So in the end, not a very profitable addition to the collection, but I
    had fun cleaning, identifying and testing the old hardware. And now I
    have a 2003-era Celeron to add to my collection of old CPUs. Plus,
    better it go to e-waste where its metals might be recycled and re-used
    than buried in a landfill.

    Anyway, who knows what the future holds? The season of scrounging has
    just begun! ;-)


    *--

    Oh boy. Here we go again ;-)

    -pw

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 30 21:32:48 2023
    On 11/30/2023 8:22 PM, PW wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 21:24:50 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    <snip more Spalls obsolete hardware crowing. :D

    Oh boy. Here we go again ;-)

    "Again" implies that it ever stopped.... :P


    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Dec 1 08:47:56 2023
    On 12/1/2023 6:34 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 14:06:16 +0100, H1M3M <wipnoah@gmail.com> wrote:

    3. No elevator in my apartment building (until we install it next year):
    Last time I hauled a 19" CRT (that proved to be dead), My back was in
    pain for a week.

    That last one hits home. Those big CRTs were BEASTS!

    A long-long-time ago, after a clear out at a job, I was allowed to
    take home any old hardware that had been marked for discard. Since the business was heavy into publication, they had a number of large CRTs,
    of the 20+ inches variety (at least 21", maybe 22" or 23"?). I grabbed
    two.

    I regretted it almost immediately after I got home and had to lug them
    down to the computer room.

    Years later, I'd scrounge a 70" TV. I had to single-handedly manhandle
    that home. It was huge, clumsy, and heavy. But I'd rather that again
    than moving those CRTs. They had that odd combination of density and fragility that I am happy to longer have to deal with.

    Still, I kept one of those CRTs for the longest time. I was still
    using it when most of the rest of the world had moved to flat-screens,
    just because it was so large, crisp... and heavy.

    Because I /really/ didn't want to have to carry that sucker OUT of the
    house. ;-)

    The #1 excuse of packrats! "But its so heavy/large/awkward to get out
    of the house!" Ignoring that it was just as heavy/large/awkward when we brought it INTO the house. :D

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to dtravel@sonic.net on Wed Dec 6 22:06:32 2023
    On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 21:32:48 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
    <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

    On 11/30/2023 8:22 PM, PW wrote:
    On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 21:24:50 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    <snip more Spalls obsolete hardware crowing. :D

    Oh boy. Here we go again ;-)

    "Again" implies that it ever stopped.... :P

    *--

    :-))

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Thu Dec 7 09:31:18 2023
    On 29/11/2023 15:48, Justisaur wrote:
    Oh yeah! A long time ago I got rid of a Sony CRT, I've regretted it ever since.
    Just don't have the room for that beast though.

    I did used to have a 21" or 22" Sun monitor which was actually a Sony.
    Boy was that heavy.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 7 10:34:19 2023
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On 29/11/2023 15:48, Justisaur wrote:
    Oh yeah! A long time ago I got rid of a Sony CRT, I've regretted it ever since.
    Just don't have the room for that beast though.

    I did used to have a 21" or 22" Sun monitor which was actually a Sony.
    Boy was that heavy.

    Had a Sony Trinitron 21", fucker weighed 70lbs.

    You know, I really do not miss CRTs at all.

    And my arthritic back certainly doesn't.

    Xocyll

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