My score: ACBAAAAAAABABDAABADB
Scoring: S - This is my favorite game! (only can be applied once)
A - I've completed the game multiple times
B - I've played it and completed it once
C - I've played it but never finished it
D - I know of it (or own it) but have never played it
E - I never even heard of this game!
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2004 Half Life 2
World of Warcraft
2005 Psychonauts
F.E.A.R.
2006 Half Life 2 Episode One
Civilization IV
2007 Bioshock
Portal
2008 The Witcher
Left 3 Dead
2009 Braid
Mirror's Edge
2010 Amnesia: Dark Descent
World of Tanks
2011 Minecraft
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
2012 FTL: Faster than Light
Eurotruck Simulator 2
2013 DOTA2
Dishonored
E - Left 3 Dead (I don't know how I haven't heard of this.)
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:18:50 -0800 (PST), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
E - Left 3 Dead (I don't know how I haven't heard of this.)
Ok, wait. I heard of Left 4 Dead. I never heard of this one either.
Looks like I have an E after all.
Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> writes:
2004 Half Life 2 B
World of Warcraft D
2005 Psychonauts D
F.E.A.R. D
2006 Half Life 2 Episode One B
Civilization IV D
2007 Bioshock C
Portal A
2008 The Witcher D
Left 3 Dead D
2009 Braid E
Mirror's Edge C
2010 Amnesia: Dark Descent E
World of Tanks D
2011 Minecraft D
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim D
2012 FTL: Faster than Light C
Eurotruck Simulator 2 D
2013 DOTA2 D
Dishonored C
No real faves here. I wouldn't have even a single A if I hadn't replayed Portal recently. Two is multiple playthroughs, right?
Borderlands 1&2, GTA (as many as five? no, six), Fallout 3&NV, Mass
Effect 1&2, Deus Ex: Human Revolution come to mind as time sinks from
this era. Sequelization features heavily and seems none of those are classics by your definition.
So let's round out this selection of PC gaming classics and see how
well you know this next batch of 'classic games'. As with our previous surveys, I've had to make a lot of very arbitrary decisions about what
to include and what not to include.
In fact, the 2004-2013 era was the one where I had the hardest time
making my selections. This was for a variety of reasons* but it means
that I am least certain that these games are deserving of the title,
and that I haven't missed many other far-more-deserving games.
Are all of these games classics? I'm not sure. But let's see how many
of them you've played anyway.
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Scoring: S - This is my favorite game! (only can be applied once)
A - I've completed the game multiple times
B - I've played it and completed it once
C - I've played it but never finished it
D - I know of it (or own it) but have never played it
E - I never even heard of this game!
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2004 Half Life 2C
World of WarcraftD
2005 PsychonautsD
F.E.A.R.E
2006 Half Life 2 Episode OneD
Civilization IVD
2007 BioshockD
PortalA (because of course :))
2008 The WitcherD
Left 3 DeadA (does the sequel count? i mean, they hve all the originals games and i
2009 BraidE
Mirror's EdgeD
2010 Amnesia: Dark DescentD
World of TanksD
2011 MinecraftB (i really dont like modern minecraft)
Elder Scrolls V: SkyrimC (i know, i know, its just not my type)
2012 FTL: Faster than LightE
Eurotruck Simulator 2D
2013 DOTA2D
DishonoredD
** My definition of what a 'classic game' is includes the
following qualifications:
a) it's fun
b) it is memorable
c) it is technologically advanced (for its time)
d) it adds new features or gameplay to the genre
e) it introduces or popularizes a genre
f) it is a key franchise for a developer that has
had significant influence
'Classics games' don't need to tick off ALL of these
boxes (well, except maybe for the first) but should
have at least three or four of them.
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 8:11:11?AM UTC-8, Anssi Saari wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallsh...@gmail.com> writes:
2004 Half Life 2 B
World of Warcraft D
2005 Psychonauts D
F.E.A.R. D
2006 Half Life 2 Episode One B
Civilization IV D
2007 Bioshock C
Portal A
2008 The Witcher D
Left 3 Dead D
2009 Braid E
Mirror's Edge C
2010 Amnesia: Dark Descent E
World of Tanks D
2011 Minecraft D
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim D
2012 FTL: Faster than Light C
Eurotruck Simulator 2 D
2013 DOTA2 D
Dishonored C
No real faves here. I wouldn't have even a single A if I hadn't replayed
Portal recently. Two is multiple playthroughs, right?
Borderlands 1&2, GTA (as many as five? no, six), Fallout 3&NV, Mass
Effect 1&2, Deus Ex: Human Revolution come to mind as time sinks from
this era. Sequelization features heavily and seems none of those are
classics by your definition.
Much better. He has plenty of sequels in there anyway.
On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 8:42:23?AM UTC-8, Spalls
Hurgenson wrote:
BONUS Justisaur's picks round! With critique of Spall's choices.
2004 BONUS Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Yeah not as important as
either of the above, but it felt like the first modern RTS that
brought the game from the tabletop to the computer in an actually fun
way. My score - A.
2006 BONUS - Fallout 3 - This should be at the top of this year. It's
remarkable for a number of reasons. A large(er) company buys the IP
from a long dead franchise and successfully ressurects while updating
it, when has that ever happened?!? Went from turn based isometric to
FPS with an innovative pause and rpg aiming for the slow of twich.
Kept a good deal of the weirdness and humor. It sure is memorable.
Possibly an S for me, definately an A.
2007 BONUS - Mass Effect - start of a franchise, best of them in my
opinion, when's the last space action rpg, really brought this genre
back. A. Alternately Crysis.
2008 BONUS - Spore - Very popular alien evolution sim. This far more
deserves to be on the list than Witcher. A - You thought I was going
to say GTA IV didn't you?
2009 BONUS - Borderlands - Weird psycho cell shaded over the top nuts
FPS with classes and loot randomization and random squads that
started a franchise and possibly the loot style. I don't see how you
skipped over this for the other two, this had very lasting effects
and was one of the funnest games of the decade let alone year. A. I
can't even tell you how many times I finished this.
2010 BONUS - Super Meat Boy - Is this the start of the 8 bit
retrogaming? Sadly I haven't even played it. D. I'm tempted to put
FO:NV, I didn't really enjoy it, but did finish it.
2011 BONUS - Duke Nukum Forever - o.k. not really, but it was such a
laughing stock and meme for so long, probably the most infamous game
of all time. As you could guess that's a D.
I really want to put Dark Souls here as it hits all the boxes far
harder - started a franchise and a whole copy-cat industry, and even
things just similar in some way earning the moniker 'souls-like'.
However it was first a console game, and it does show.
2012 BONUS - Diablo III - More for infamy again in their 'innovation'
of a real money markteplace. At least I thought the in game money
marketplace was a huge improvement over trying to trade over boards,
but I seem to be alone in that, and they were both dropped. It was
fun at least.
2013 BONUS - Assassin's Creed Black Flag - It had actually fun pirating
and swashbuckling which is more than I can say for any other pirate
game, too bad it was saddled with AC. Like I said not much else
deserving this year.
I agree with stopping at 2013, further and it's not classic anymore.
Frankly I don't think any of these have reached 'classic' even.
Don't take my critques and choices to seriously, I had to really
stretch some this time.
2009 BONUS - Borderlands - Weird psycho cell shaded over the top nuts
FPS with classes and loot randomization and random squads that
started a franchise and possibly the loot style. I don't see how you
skipped over this for the other two, this had very lasting effects
and was one of the funnest games of the decade let alone year. A. I
can't even tell you how many times I finished this.
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 17:57:54 -0800 (PST), Justisaur
<just...@gmail.com> wrote:
2009 BONUS - Borderlands - Weird psycho cell shaded over the top nutsI don't like FPS games. I don't like action games. But Borderlands is
FPS with classes and loot randomization and random squads that
started a franchise and possibly the loot style. I don't see how you >skipped over this for the other two, this had very lasting effects
and was one of the funnest games of the decade let alone year. A. I
can't even tell you how many times I finished this.
one of favorite games of all time. It is the very last game I played multiplayer with friends and it was so much fun. A definite S from me
on Spalls tier list.
Did Borderlands start the looter shooter sub-genre? If it did, it
definitely belongs on Spalls list over the other games IMO.
On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 17:57:54 -0800 (PST), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
2009 BONUS - Borderlands - Weird psycho cell shaded over the top nuts
FPS with classes and loot randomization and random squads that
started a franchise and possibly the loot style. I don't see how you
skipped over this for the other two, this had very lasting effects
and was one of the funnest games of the decade let alone year. A. I
can't even tell you how many times I finished this.
I don't like FPS games. I don't like action games. But Borderlands is
one of favorite games of all time. It is the very last game I played multiplayer with friends and it was so much fun. A definite S from me
on Spalls tier list.
Did Borderlands start the looter shooter sub-genre? If it did, it
definitely belongs on Spalls list over the other games IMO.
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