I've tried plugging the ide cable from the motherboard into one of the 3.5 inch discs. During boot up, I get the ADFS message, and the disc activity light comes on, flickers briefly, then goes off. The boot eventually fails ansd offers "floppy boot", there's no floppy drive that works, retry,
which gets to the same pioint, and cancel, which stops at the splash
screen.
I suspect this disc is not configured as a boot disc. The other 3.5 inch
disc now prevents the PSU from starting. It seems to have failed during
all the plugging and unplugging I've been doing.
I would like to get this to boot again, probable using the 3.5 inch disc
that does still seem to work. It holds a backup of a lot of what was on
the failed 2.5 inch disc. Options would be either to connect it to the motherboard or the unipod. The latter requires *configure filesystem idefs
I believe.
How can I get to the supervisor to reconfigure things? I don't have an RPC ketyboard now, only USB. The USB keyboard does get a reaction once I'm at
the "failed boot" screen - pressing escape is equivalent to cancel. F12
does nothing however.
Secondly, in order to make sure the 2.5 inch disc has failed, is there any way to connect it to an ARMX6? It's IDE.
On 23/09/2020 14:27, Alan Adams wrote:
I've tried plugging the ide cable from the motherboard into one of the 3.5 >> inch discs. During boot up, I get the ADFS message, and the disc activity
light comes on, flickers briefly, then goes off. The boot eventually fails >> ansd offers "floppy boot", there's no floppy drive that works, retry,
which gets to the same pioint, and cancel, which stops at the splash
screen.
I would recommend taking all other podules out and connecting the drives
one at a time to the motherboard interface to check that they work. Once
you know which drives still working, you can put them back on the
desired interface.
Make sure you set the links on each drive to master when it is the only drive, and one as master and one as slave when 2 drives are on the
cable. Do not use the CS cable select option, only grief lies here.
Just thought if the master drive of a pair has failed, then the working
slave drive might not be recognised either.
I suspect this disc is not configured as a boot disc. The other 3.5 inch
disc now prevents the PSU from starting. It seems to have failed during
all the plugging and unplugging I've been doing.
To make the disc bootable, you need to issue a
*OPT 4 2
Assuming it is set to the only disc on the motherboard interface.
I would like to get this to boot again, probable using the 3.5 inch disc
that does still seem to work. It holds a backup of a lot of what was on
the failed 2.5 inch disc. Options would be either to connect it to the
motherboard or the unipod. The latter requires *configure filesystem idefs >> I believe.
*Configure FileSystem ADFS
When using the motherboard.
How can I get to the supervisor to reconfigure things? I don't have an RPC >> ketyboard now, only USB. The USB keyboard does get a reaction once I'm at
the "failed boot" screen - pressing escape is equivalent to cancel. F12
does nothing however.
You either need to press shift when powering up or pressing reset, but
this probably wont work if you have a USB keyboard via a podule. In that
case keep hammering Escape from the moment anything appears on the screen.
You should be able to get out of the failed boot to the desktop by
pressing one of the buttons in the error box - can't check right now.
Secondly, in order to make sure the 2.5 inch disc has failed, is there any >> way to connect it to an ARMX6? It's IDE.
There are IDE to SATA adaptors, but the good old motherboard interface
should you first port of call.
---druck
In message <rkfjkp$ika$1@dont-email.me>
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 23/09/2020 14:27, Alan Adams wrote:
I've tried plugging the ide cable from the motherboard into one of the 3.5 >>> inch discs. During boot up, I get the ADFS message, and the disc activity >>> light comes on, flickers briefly, then goes off. The boot eventually fails >>> ansd offers "floppy boot", there's no floppy drive that works, retry,
which gets to the same pioint, and cancel, which stops at the splash
screen.
However: These are both old discs. What I would like to do now is get the data onto a SATA disc connected via a SATA-USB adapter. Is this possible using a Unipod USB interface. If so, how would I go about it? (The disc is currently NT formatted, so I guess that would need to change).
As an alternative I also have a Castle USB podule (4-port). Would
connecting via this be any better?
However: These are both old discs. What I would like to do now is get
the data onto a SATA disc connected via a SATA-USB adapter. Is this
possible using a Unipod USB interface. If so, how would I go about it?
(The disc is currently NT formatted, so I guess that would need to
change).
I did once try using an IDE to SATA adapter on the motherboard interface
of a Kinetic but I couldn't get it to work. Of course, this may just have been down to that specific adaptor.
I did once try using an IDE to SATA adapter on the motherboard interface
of a Kinetic but I couldn't get it to work. Of course, this may just have been down to that specific adaptor.
On 24/09/2020 19:55, Stuart wrote:
I did once try using an IDE to SATA adapter on the motherboard
interface of a Kinetic but I couldn't get it to work. Of course, this
may just have been down to that specific adaptor.
The motherboard is an extremely old version of IDE, you might have more
luck with one of the later third party IDE cards, but obviously no guarantees.
In article <rkk62p$n6i$1@dont-email.me>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 24/09/2020 19:55, Stuart wrote:
I did once try using an IDE to SATA adapter on the motherboard
interface of a Kinetic but I couldn't get it to work. Of course, this
may just have been down to that specific adaptor.
The motherboard is an extremely old version of IDE, you might have more
luck with one of the later third party IDE cards, but obviously no
guarantees.
Yes, as I suggested in my second post, an adapter might well work with the Unipod and it might need the latest version of !HForm.
On 25/09/2020 09:18, Stuart wrote:
In article <rkk62p$n6i$1@dont-email.me>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 24/09/2020 19:55, Stuart wrote:
I did once try using an IDE to SATA adapter on the motherboard
interface of a Kinetic but I couldn't get it to work. Of course, this
may just have been down to that specific adaptor.
The motherboard is an extremely old version of IDE, you might have more
luck with one of the later third party IDE cards, but obviously no
guarantees.
Yes, as I suggested in my second post, an adapter might well work with the >> Unipod and it might need the latest version of !HForm.
Sorry only read your post after I replied.
---druck
In message <rkkm4v$v6a$1@dont-email.me>
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 25/09/2020 09:18, Stuart wrote:
In article <rkk62p$n6i$1@dont-email.me>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 24/09/2020 19:55, Stuart wrote:
I did once try using an IDE to SATA adapter on the motherboard
interface of a Kinetic but I couldn't get it to work. Of course, this >>>> may just have been down to that specific adaptor.
The motherboard is an extremely old version of IDE, you might have more >>> luck with one of the later third party IDE cards, but obviously no
guarantees.
Yes, as I suggested in my second post, an adapter might well work with the >> Unipod and it might need the latest version of !HForm.
Sorry only read your post after I replied.
---druck
I have an adaper on order. We'll see whether it works.
In article <ffeb8db558.Alan.Adams@ArmX6.adamshome.org.uk>, Alan Adams <URL:mailto:alan@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:
In message <rkkm4v$v6a$1@dont-email.me>
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 25/09/2020 09:18, Stuart wrote:
In article <rkk62p$n6i$1@dont-email.me>,
druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
On 24/09/2020 19:55, Stuart wrote:
I did once try using an IDE to SATA adapter on the motherboard
interface of a Kinetic but I couldn't get it to work. Of course, this >>>>>> may just have been down to that specific adaptor.
The motherboard is an extremely old version of IDE, you might have more >>>>> luck with one of the later third party IDE cards, but obviously no
guarantees.
Yes, as I suggested in my second post, an adapter might well work with the >>>> Unipod and it might need the latest version of !HForm.
Sorry only read your post after I replied.
---druck
I have an adaper on order. We'll see whether it works.
Several years ago we spent quite a lot of money and time on IDE-SATA
adaptors IIRC none worked on a RPCs motherboard IDE interface and only one worked reliably on an Iyonix.
Stuart's suggestions of using a network attached drive sound a good idea.
Chris Evans
In message <ant261130b49pErr@client.cjemicros.co.uk>
"Chris Evans (CJE/4D)" <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> wrote:
Stuart's suggestions of using a network attached drive sound a good idea.
I might end up using that route. However the application does heavy disc activity, and I suspect that that will be significantly slower over the network than using the Unipod and adapter (if that combination works).
I do have an SLU2 NAS I bought some years ago, but I struggled with it,
and eventually gave up.
Stuart's suggestions of using a network attached drive sound a good
idea.
I might end up using that route. However the application does heavy disc activity, and I suspect that that will be significantly slower over the network than using the Unipod and adapter (if that combination works).
In message <ab2115b658.Alan.Adams@ArmX6.adamshome.org.uk>
Alan Adams <alan@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:
I used an NSLU2 happily for some years until it died. I replaced it
with a Raspberry Pi 3B+ running OpenMediaVault, which gives me Samba
and NFS shares, and very creditable transfer speeds of two 2.5" USB
portable hard drives via gigabit LAN. But again, it's with much
more modern RISC OS hardware (BBxM, more recently RasPi 3B+) than
an RPC.
2.5inch IDE disc connected via an adapter to the motherboard IDE
Recently I plugged this disc into the adapter incorrectly, only
connecting the bottom row of pins of the dics to the top row on the
socket. Since then, even correctly plugged in, it doesn't work.
in order to make sure the 2.5 inch disc has failed, is there any way
to connect it to an ARMX6? It's IDE.
On 23 Sep 2020 Alan Adams <alan@adamshome.org.uk> wrote:
2.5inch IDE disc connected via an adapter to the motherboard IDE
Recently I plugged this disc into the adapter incorrectly, only
connecting the bottom row of pins of the dics to the top row on the
socket. Since then, even correctly plugged in, it doesn't work.
in order to make sure the 2.5 inch disc has failed, is there any way
to connect it to an ARMX6? It's IDE.
Something similar happened to me many years ago. A damaging short
circuit was created when the socket and pins were misaligned.
Thankfully it was the adapter that failed first, not the drive. Take a careful look at the adapter PCB, for any tracks that have melted or
similar.
It's a long shot, but worth checking.
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