On Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:43:07 UTC+1, Richard Darby (news) wrote:

In article <4d93c838-a21f-4203-b531-744c50aa456f@googlegroups.com>,
<admin@toms12.plus.com> wrote:

Hello Folks

My very-long-standing HP LaserJet 1015 has recently become a
late-LaserJet. RIP. So I've replaced it with the nearest equivalent, a LaserJet M15w.

Grand results under Windows. The only problem being there doesn't appear
to be a suitable print definition file for RISC OS.

Do any of you experts have a working solution please? Or one that can be tweaked to work purely for plain text (as I did for the 1015)?

Unfortunately UniPrint isn't an option as it won't run on the host computer.

Does it understand Printer Control Language or PostScript? You may find
the answer in the downloadable manual.

Richard Darby.

In reply to other thoughts, I should have explained that the choice of LaserJet M15w was for minimum outlay and running costs, and that I was fully aware that the usual lack of RISC OS PDF for it would most likely be a stopper. And so it came to pass.

Thanks for your query Richard. The printer is indeed PCL-capable and I have tried it with your Duplex printer driver which installed OK, but attempts to print (from RISC OS) throw up a fatal error message.

Ditto nice Martyn Wuerthner's PS3 solution. Installed fine, but no printout. Unfortunately UniPrint doesn't work on this PC.

Tim Hill sayeth:

For simple documents this is easily solved by saving to a .pdf file from
RISC OS into a folder shared with the PC and printing it from there.

Absolutely. That's Plan B in case there isn't a Plan A solution, and works a treat on both PS2 and PS3. But arguably rather heavy-handed and time-consuming for simple monochrome text prints such as letters.

I'm sure I saw a recent post that someone had used an HP LaserJet PDF and tweaked it so that a shiny new non-HP printer was wont to work.

Unfortunately I can't find the reference for that, so any other ideas would be most welcome. Keep up the good work folks. TIA.

Steve Johnson

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In article <3a144469-54a8-4124-8b76-1c4781d957a5@googlegroups.com>,
<admin@toms12.plus.com> wrote:

Ditto nice Martyn Wuerthner's PS3 solution. Installed fine, but no
printout. Unfortunately UniPrint doesn't work on this PC.

That's something you need to contact Andrew Rawnsley about.

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In article <58621b30d9Spambin@argonet.co.uk>,
Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

In article <3a144469-54a8-4124-8b76-1c4781d957a5@googlegroups.com>,
<admin@toms12.plus.com> wrote:

Ditto nice Martyn Wuerthner's PS3 solution. Installed fine, but no printout. Unfortunately UniPrint doesn't work on this PC.

That's something you need to contact Andrew Rawnsley about.

He knows that some machines have problems. It is being looked into. But, knowing someone else with a problem might help with alpha tsting

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from KT24 in Surrey, England
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In article <3a144469-54a8-4124-8b76-1c4781d957a5@googlegroups.com>,
<admin@toms12.plus.com> wrote:

...so any other ideas would be most welcome. Keep up the good work
folks. TIA.

Steve Johnson

If I understand your problem correctly my solution is to print to a
(.pdf) file using PS3 and to transfer it to my Lexmark printer across the network using !FTPC set to 192.168... (ie the printer address).

Without leaving my RISC OS computer, a Raspberry Pi, the proceedure is to
print to file, open the filer window where the file is stored and drag
the file to the appropriate window opened on !FTPc [1]. The printer then
bursts into life and my print appears AIBM.

[1] I have a number of windows, mostly for connecting to web servers also
one to the printer and one to the NAS.

B

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Brian Jordan
RISC OS 5.23 on Raspberry Pi _____________________________________________________________________

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In message <urB*EZGPx@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

admin@toms12.plus.com wrote:

Hello Folks

My very-long-standing HP LaserJet 1015 has recently become a
late-LaserJet. RIP. So I've replaced it with the nearest equivalent, a
LaserJet M15w.

Grand results under Windows. The only problem being there doesn't appear
to be a suitable print definition file for RISC OS.

Do any of you experts have a working solution please? Or one that can be
tweaked to work purely for plain text (as I did for the 1015)?

Unfortunately UniPrint isn't an option as it won't run on the host computer.

The specification: https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-laserjet-pro-m14-m17-printer-serie s/16647043/model/16647063/document/c05940348
says
"Print languages PCLmS; URF; PWG"

URF is the way of sending from iOS, PWG is another raster format.
I'm not aware of any drivers for these for RISC OS.

I can't find anything about PCLmS but PCLm is a raster-based subset of PDF. They're nothing to do with PCL.

You could try sending it a PDF containing only images and seeing what happens, but I think it's doubtful it will work from RISC OS, especially not in plain text mode (using printer internal fonts etc).

Moral of the story: check before you buy :(

I suppose one option would be to set up a Raspberry Pi or similar to be a CUPS print server, accepting PDF or Postscript and translating it to PWG
that the printer will accept. That potentially involves quite a bit of setting up - I don't know if there's anything to make that easier.

I tried doing that a couple of years ago while still playing with Linux.
The results made me abandon Linux as a solution to anything.

The word "arcane" is an understatement where CUPS is concerned.

Theo

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Alan Adams, from Northamptonshire
alan@adamshome.org.uk
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On Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:07:32 UTC+1, Brian Jordan wrote:

In article <3a144469-54a8-4124-8b76-1c4781d957a5@googlegroups.com>,
<admin@toms12.plus.com> wrote:

...so any other ideas would be most welcome. Keep up the good work
folks. TIA.

Steve Johnson

If I understand your problem correctly my solution is to print to a
(.pdf) file using PS3 and to transfer it to my Lexmark printer across the network using !FTPC set to 192.168... (ie the printer address).

Without leaving my RISC OS computer, a Raspberry Pi, the proceedure is to print to file, open the filer window where the file is stored and drag
the file to the appropriate window opened on !FTPc [1]. The printer then bursts into life and my print appears AIBM.

_____________________________________________________________________

Brian Jordan

Thanks for that Brian. For preactical purposes it's the equivalent of 'Plan B' which follows the same route: Print to PDF file and drag it to a shared RISC OS -> Windows folder; nip across to Windows and load/print the pDF file. A useful extra being able
to view the file in a Windows PDF viewer to double-check there are no probs before printing.

Howver, for simple mono text printing, I was hoping there would be a Plan A workround, without need of user-intervention, i.e. the same as VirtualRPC which renders the file under RISC OS and then sends it to Windows for printing as a 'Red Squirrel' print
job. But that requires a compatible RISC OS print definition file for the printer...

(And R-Comp are aware of the problem with UniPrint on this computer.)

Steve Johnson

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