• 3B1/PC7300 parts for sale

    From Jeffrey L. Bromberger@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 17 14:14:51 2017
    It's been a long and happy ride, but the time has come for me to let go some of the 3B1/PC730 parts I have. There's a lot of things I have that once meant the world to me. Now, the time has come to let others get some enjoyment from them. Without any
    more fluff, here's what I have available:

    a) 2-port serial/memory card with no memory chips.
    b) Unmodified 512K card - fits in any of the three slots on the machine
    c) MODIFIED 512K card - this fits in any physical slot, but pretends to live in the invisible slot 3. If you have a maxed out motherboard and a full serial card, you have only 3.5MB of memory. This is how you get the full 4MB into the system.
    d) NEW IN BOX power supply for 3B1
    e) USED BUT WORKING power supply in box for PC7300 (lower amperage)
    f) Voice Power Card *and original floppies*
    g) Tape Backup Unit and interface card. I have a mess of tapes available, too, but I have to first degauss my data off of them.
    h) UnixPC (complete). I don't recall how much memory is on the motherboard. I suspect it may only be 0.5Kb. It's probably a P3...P5 board with the only modification probably being the replacement of the WD1010 chip into a WD2010 chip. The unit is
    complete with a 40MB hard drive, a 2-port serial card, probably with some memory, and an Ethernet/10MB card. This was my backup unit, so while it was used, it's still in pretty good condition for a machine of this age.
    i) Maxtor XT2190 hard drive. 190Mb - the absolute biggest that the 3B1 could be built to handle, provided you upgraded the WD1010 chip. The unit still has the face plate, so it can be used either internally (if you remove it) or externally in a
    separate chassis. This can also be used in a 3B2/300-310-400 if you want.

    I may have other parts available at a later time. I seem to recall I had a spare backplane, and a motherboard with the P5.1 upgrade but dead video. Just could not find them yet.

    If you're interested in some of these items, reach out to me with a reasonable offer.

    j
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    Jeffrey L. Bromberger

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  • From DoN. Nichols@21:1/5 to Jeffrey L. Bromberger on Mon Sep 18 02:27:50 2017
    On 2017-09-17, Jeffrey L. Bromberger <jbromberger@gmail.com> wrote:

    It's been a long and happy ride, but the time has come for me to let
    go some of the 3B1/PC730 parts I have. There's a lot of things I have
    that once meant the world to me. Now, the time has come to let others
    get some enjoyment from them. Without any more fluff, here's what I
    have available:

    [ ... ]

    i) Maxtor XT2190 hard drive. 190Mb - the absolute biggest that the
    3B1 could be built to handle, provided you upgraded the WD1010 chip.
    The unit still has the face plate, so it can be used either internally
    (if you remove it) or externally in a separate chassis. This can also
    be used in a 3B2/300-310-400 if you want.

    One comment about this drive. I've made the necessary
    modifications to use one (or two), and aside from the WD2010 replacing
    the WD1010, you also need to add some circuitry to it to allow a second
    data cable to the drive (if a second drive), and at least to add one
    more head-select line. The default system has three head-select lines
    (thus up to 8 heads), and the Maxtor XT2190 (and the Priam clone
    thereof) have 15 heads. The WD chip swap simply increases the number of cylinders to allow it to go beyond 1024 cylinders, so it is necessary,
    but not sufficient to use the totality of the larger drive.

    It is better to have the larger drive in an external housing
    with its own power supply, because the extra load of the XT2190 could
    hasten the failure of the 7300's (3B1's) power supply. I used an
    external drive box made for the 3B2, so the color scheme matches the
    3B1, and it has a power supply which can be switched on by +5V (very low current) from the computer, so you don't have to remember to turn on the
    drive box before booting the computer. It is possible to wire the data
    cable so it carries both drives' worth in a single cable, so both drives
    live out of the system box and thus it runs cooler. I also put the tape
    drive in there as there was room.

    All of this is for whoever gets what you are offering. I don't
    need them, personally.

    Enjoy,
    DoN.

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  • From Convergent MightyFrame@21:1/5 to Jeffrey L. Bromberger on Tue Oct 3 00:33:43 2017
    On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 2:14:52 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey L. Bromberger wrote:
    It's been a long and happy ride, but the time has come for me to let go some of the 3B1/PC730 parts I have. There's a lot of things I have that once meant the world to me. Now, the time has come to let others get some enjoyment from them. Without
    any more fluff, here's what I have available:

    a) 2-port serial/memory card with no memory chips.
    b) Unmodified 512K card - fits in any of the three slots on the machine
    c) MODIFIED 512K card - this fits in any physical slot, but pretends to live in the invisible slot 3. If you have a maxed out motherboard and a full serial card, you have only 3.5MB of memory. This is how you get the full 4MB into the system.
    d) NEW IN BOX power supply for 3B1
    e) USED BUT WORKING power supply in box for PC7300 (lower amperage)
    f) Voice Power Card *and original floppies*
    g) Tape Backup Unit and interface card. I have a mess of tapes available, too, but I have to first degauss my data off of them.
    h) UnixPC (complete). I don't recall how much memory is on the motherboard. I suspect it may only be 0.5Kb. It's probably a P3...P5 board with the only modification probably being the replacement of the WD1010 chip into a WD2010 chip. The unit is
    complete with a 40MB hard drive, a 2-port serial card, probably with some memory, and an Ethernet/10MB card. This was my backup unit, so while it was used, it's still in pretty good condition for a machine of this age.
    i) Maxtor XT2190 hard drive. 190Mb - the absolute biggest that the 3B1 could be built to handle, provided you upgraded the WD1010 chip. The unit still has the face plate, so it can be used either internally (if you remove it) or externally in a
    separate chassis. This can also be used in a 3B2/300-310-400 if you want.

    I may have other parts available at a later time. I seem to recall I had a spare backplane, and a motherboard with the P5.1 upgrade but dead video. Just could not find them yet.

    If you're interested in some of these items, reach out to me with a reasonable offer.

    j
    ---
    Jeffrey L. Bromberger

    Jeffrey,

    Thanks for your generosity here. Since no one has taken you up on this yet, I'd like to respond.

    I may be interested in these 2 items:

    f) Voice Power Card *and original floppies*

    i) Maxtor XT2190 hard drive. 190Mb - the absolute biggest that the 3B1 could be built to handle, provided you upgraded the WD1010 chip. The unit still has the face plate, so it can be used either internally (if you remove it) or externally in a
    separate chassis. This can also be used in a 3B2/300-310-400 if you want.

    And possibly more if you don't otherwise find a good home for it.

    If you wouldn't mind, please email me directly on the email address found at: http://mightyframe.blogspot.com/p/contact.html

    Your efforts here are very appreciated, in sharing these somewhat rare and obscure items.

    Best,
    -AJ

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  • From jlrcapital@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 8 19:46:05 2017
    "> i) Maxtor XT2190 hard drive. 190Mb - the absolute biggest that the 3B1 could be built to handle, provided you upgraded the WD1010 chip. The unit still has the face plate, so it can be used either internally (if you remove it) or externally in a
    separate chassis. This can also be used in a 3B2/300-310-400 if you want. "


    Jeffrey, a friend just pointed out that your complete UNIX PC has a Ethernet/10MB card. I'm actually extremely interested in this. Do you still have the whole machine or any of these Ethernet/10MB cards?

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  • From Convergent MightyFrame@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 8 19:48:46 2017
    "> i) Maxtor XT2190 hard drive. 190Mb - the absolute biggest that the 3B1 could be built to handle, provided you upgraded the WD1010 chip. The unit still has the face plate, so it can be used either internally (if you remove it) or externally in a
    separate chassis. This can also be used in a 3B2/300-310-400 if you want. "


    Jeffrey, a friend just pointed out that your complete UNIX PC has a Ethernet/10MB card. I'm actually extremely interested in this. Do you still have the whole machine or any of these Ethernet/10MB cards?

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  • From DoN. Nichols@21:1/5 to jlrcapital@gmail.com on Wed Oct 11 00:22:53 2017
    On 2017-10-09, jlrcapital@gmail.com <jlrcapital@gmail.com> wrote:

    "> i) Maxtor XT2190 hard drive. 190Mb - the absolute biggest that the
    3B1 could be built to handle, provided you upgraded the WD1010 chip.

    [ ... ]

    Jeffrey, a friend just pointed out that your complete UNIX PC has a Ethernet/10MB card. I'm actually extremely interested in this. Do you
    still have the whole machine or any of these Ethernet/10MB cards?

    Something to consider relative to the ethernet card -- the
    software for it (from Willagong Software) is somewhat primitive, and
    between it and the OS itself, there is no implementation of microtime
    (which gives subdivisions of the seconds only from the normal clock.)
    This means that ping(1M) for Sun's Solaris, or ping(8) for OpenBSD can't
    be compiled, because it needs the fractional seconds to work. (Thus
    that command is not in the system).

    And -- it is rather fragile. Just from a Sun 2/120 (same 10 MHz MC-68010 CPU as the 7300/3B1/Unix-PC), a "ping -f" (flood ping)

    ======================================================================
    -f Flood ping. Outputs packets as fast as they come back or one
    hundred times per second, whichever is more. For every
    ECHO_REQUEST sent, a period `.' is printed, while for every
    ECHO_REPLY received a backspace is printed. This provides a
    rapid display of how many packets are being dropped. Only the
    superuser may use this option. This can be very hard on a
    network and should be used with caution.
    ======================================================================

    will crash the system. Still, it is quite useful, anyway. I had
    several systems running that card and software.

    Enjoy,
    DoN.

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  • From Richard L. Hamilton@21:1/5 to DoN. Nichols on Tue Oct 17 13:22:54 2017
    In article <slrnotqp2s.pan.BPdnicholsBP@katana.d-and-d.com>,
    "DoN. Nichols" <BPdnicholsBP@d-and-d.com> writes:
    On 2017-10-09, jlrcapital@gmail.com <jlrcapital@gmail.com> wrote:

    "> i) Maxtor XT2190 hard drive. 190Mb - the absolute biggest that the
    3B1 could be built to handle, provided you upgraded the WD1010 chip.

    [ ... ]

    Jeffrey, a friend just pointed out that your complete UNIX PC has a
    Ethernet/10MB card. I'm actually extremely interested in this. Do you
    still have the whole machine or any of these Ethernet/10MB cards?

    Something to consider relative to the ethernet card -- the
    software for it (from Willagong Software) is somewhat primitive, and
    between it and the OS itself, there is no implementation of microtime
    (which gives subdivisions of the seconds only from the normal clock.)
    This means that ping(1M) for Sun's Solaris, or ping(8) for OpenBSD can't
    be compiled, because it needs the fractional seconds to work. (Thus
    that command is not in the system).

    And -- it is rather fragile. Just from a Sun 2/120 (same 10 MHz MC-68010 CPU as the 7300/3B1/Unix-PC), a "ping -f" (flood ping)

    ======================================================================
    -f Flood ping. Outputs packets as fast as they come back or one
    hundred times per second, whichever is more. For every
    ECHO_REQUEST sent, a period `.' is printed, while for every
    ECHO_REPLY received a backspace is printed. This provides a
    rapid display of how many packets are being dropped. Only the
    superuser may use this option. This can be very hard on a
    network and should be used with caution.
    ======================================================================

    will crash the system. Still, it is quite useful, anyway. I had
    several systems running that card and software.

    Enjoy,
    DoN.


    I remember Wollongong's TCP/IP stack on SVR2 on the 3B15's; as the load went up, more bugs would be found (a lot of mbuf mishandling, I gather). After
    a couple of years of bug fixing (much of it in-house, I suspect), it finally got pretty stable. For commercial software (although I think it came from early Berkeley code), it was a real pile of steaming smelly stuff, IMO.

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  • From Hostage@21:1/5 to Jeffrey L. Bromberger on Fri Nov 10 09:28:37 2017
    On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 4:14:52 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey L. Bromberger wrote:
    It's been a long and happy ride, but the time has come for me to let go some of the 3B1/PC730 parts I have. There's a lot of things I have that once meant the world to me. Now, the time has come to let others get some enjoyment from them. Without
    any more fluff, here's what I have available:

    a) 2-port serial/memory card with no memory chips.
    b) Unmodified 512K card - fits in any of the three slots on the machine
    c) MODIFIED 512K card - this fits in any physical slot, but pretends to live in the invisible slot 3. If you have a maxed out motherboard and a full serial card, you have only 3.5MB of memory. This is how you get the full 4MB into the system.
    d) NEW IN BOX power supply for 3B1
    e) USED BUT WORKING power supply in box for PC7300 (lower amperage)
    f) Voice Power Card *and original floppies*
    g) Tape Backup Unit and interface card. I have a mess of tapes available, too, but I have to first degauss my data off of them.
    h) UnixPC (complete). I don't recall how much memory is on the motherboard. I suspect it may only be 0.5Kb. It's probably a P3...P5 board with the only modification probably being the replacement of the WD1010 chip into a WD2010 chip. The unit is
    complete with a 40MB hard drive, a 2-port serial card, probably with some memory, and an Ethernet/10MB card. This was my backup unit, so while it was used, it's still in pretty good condition for a machine of this age.
    i) Maxtor XT2190 hard drive. 190Mb - the absolute biggest that the 3B1 could be built to handle, provided you upgraded the WD1010 chip. The unit still has the face plate, so it can be used either internally (if you remove it) or externally in a
    separate chassis. This can also be used in a 3B2/300-310-400 if you want.

    I may have other parts available at a later time. I seem to recall I had a spare backplane, and a motherboard with the P5.1 upgrade but dead video. Just could not find them yet.

    If you're interested in some of these items, reach out to me with a reasonable offer.

    j
    ---
    Jeffrey L. Bromberger

    Jeffrey,
    I don't know how I missed this! If anything is still available please let me know! use hostageATcomcast.net to reach me please...
    George

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