• Installing 3B1 Software?

    From Aharon Robbins@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 12:41:56 2020
    Hello All.

    I've been strolling down memory lane, bringing up a disk image
    inside the freebee emulator. I have Unix installed but nothing
    else. Looking at the disk images available, I see:

    Communications_Patch_Vers_3.51.IMD Curses_Terminfo_End_User_Package_Ver_3.51.IMD EIA_RAM_Combo_Board_Expansion_Ver_3.51.IMD
    Encryption_Set_Ver_3.51_Disk_1.IMD
    Encryption_Set_Ver_3.51_Disk_2.IMD
    Telephone_Manager_Disk_Ver_3.51.IMD
    Terminfo_Database_Ver_3.51.IMD

    The emulator doesn't support the modem, so no reason to install
    the Telephone Manager. Do I need the EIA_RAM_Combo_Board_Expansion_Ver_3.51 image? I think the emulator supports this hardware.

    What about the Communications_Patch_Vers_3.51 disk?

    Otherwise, it looks like I should install the Curses end user package
    and the terminfo database next.

    Moving on to the dev utilies, I have:

    CUR351_1.IMD Curses/Terminfo Programmer's Package
    DEV351_1.IMD Development Set, Disk 1
    DEV351_2.IMD Development Set, Disk 2
    DEV351_3.IMD Development Set, Disk 3
    DEV351_4.IMD Development Set, Disk 4
    DEV351_5.IMD Development Set, Disk 5
    DEV351_6.IMD Development Set, Disk 6
    DEV351_7.IMD Development Set, Disk 7
    DEV351_8.IMD Development Set, Disk 8
    DOC351_1.IMD Document Preparation, Disk 1
    DOC351_2.IMD Document Preparation, Disk 2
    DOC351_3.IMD Document Preparation, Disk 3
    DOC351_4.IMD Document Preparation, Disk 4
    EDI351_1.IMD Enhanced Editors
    VDI351_1.IMD VDI
    WIN351_1.IMD Windowing Utilities (Xt/Layers)

    I don't think I need Xt/Layers, which is DMD 5620 emulation. Any idea
    what the VDI disk is? Apparently it is "enhanced editors" but I have
    no idea what that means... Otherwise, I'll install all the rest.

    Thanks for any reminders as to what all these things were. It's been
    well over 25 years since I touched a 3B1, so my knowledge about
    that system has bit-rotted... :-)

    Oh, yeah. I assume I log in as 'install' to install all those
    images?

    Thanks!

    Arnold
    --
    Aharon (Arnold) Robbins arnold AT skeeve DOT com

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  • From J Booth@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 13 10:56:48 2020
    The emulator doesn't support the modem, so no reason to install
    the Telephone Manager. Do I need the EIA_RAM_Combo_Board_Expansion_Ver_3.51 image? I think the emulator supports this hardware.

    Yeah no need for the Telephone Manager, or EIA_RAM. The RAM is setup by default to be 2MB base memory with 2MB expansion. I doubt you need the Comm Patch disk either. (Comm Patch disk image says: "new version assures comm line drops after uucico
    completes")

    I don't think I need Xt/Layers, which is DMD 5620 emulation. Any idea
    what the VDI disk is? Apparently it is "enhanced editors" but I have
    no idea what that means... Otherwise, I'll install all the rest.

    VDI = "One of the emerging standards is the Virtual Device Interface
    (VDI). This proposed and widely accepted standard, defines how
    graphics peripherals should communicate with a host computer."

    Apparently this is related to the GSS drivers which is for hooking up plotters so don't think you need VDI or GSS.

    But maybe you mean EDI (enhanced editors) which you probably do want.

    Oh, yeah. I assume I log in as 'install' to install all those
    images?
    Yep, or alternatively you can login as root and then run 'ua' (user agent) which brings up the window interface -- similar to if you logged in with 'install'.

    Have fun! Being able to compile stuff is one of my fave things to be able to do :) When I get some time, I want to mess around further with the MGR window system. I have been looking for the MGR fix5 update source code, I only have the fix 4 source (mgr+
    f4.cpio.Z) but did come across a compiled version of fix 5 in the Caltech archive - if anyone knows where the 3b1 MGR fix5 source is, let me know:

    "Mgr: I played around a bit with mgr, and for those who might wish to
    do the same, here's what I have. Mgr-blit contains a modified
    version of port/blit.c that compiles under gcc, as well as the
    corresponding object (two actually, one with -O and the other
    -O2). With -O2, gcc takes over 2 minutes of sparc ipx time to
    cross-compile blit.c Mgr-demo contains a copy of the mgr stuff
    on my machine. Note that I "installed" it in /tmp/mgr. This
    will save you some compiliation time if you just want to try
    things out. If you really want to use mgr, you might consider
    recompiling it yourself to get it made the way you want. Finally,
    mgr-doc contains the documentation from the source distribution.
    You're on your own with this one. Since I only have the vidpal
    emulator, I won't be using mgr myself.
    mgr-blit.tar.gz
    mgr-demo.tar.gz
    mgr-doc.tar.gz"

    MGR seems a little tricky to get working right, there are some additional drivers to load and ones to unload.

    Jesse

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