• How do you archive a printer driver once it has been installed?

    From Danny D.@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 26 17:39:48 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    How do you archive a printer driver once it has been installed?

    In another thread, we found a secret trick to get Windows 10 to install an
    x64 printer driver for an HP Laserjet 2100m printer which has been discontinued, hence the printer driver is no longer available on the HP
    site nor is the printer driver part of the "normal" Windows 10 update
    process.

    The printer driver for the HP LJ 2100 is only part of the "special"
    temporary Windows 10 update process.

    That's fine - but what if the special Windows update stops carrying that particular printer driver?

    Just in case, is there an easy way to *archive* the printer driver?
    Here's what I know from printing a test page after running the super-secret special temporary Windows 10 update:

    - Windows Printer Test Page
    - You have correctly installed your HP LaserJet 2100 Series PCL5 on NAME
    - Print Processor = hpzpplhn
    - OS Environment = Windows x64
    - Driver Name = HP LaserJet 2100 Series PCL 5
    - Driver Type = Type 3 - User Mode
    - Driver Version = 6.1.7233.0
    - Additional Print Driver Files: C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZLSLHN.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZSSLHN.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZUILHN.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZLSLHN.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPCDMCLH.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZ5RLHN.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZSMLHN.GPD C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZSLHN.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPMCPD25.CFG C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZSCLHN.INI C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPMCPDPS.XML C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZSCLHN.DTD C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZEVLHN.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZIDR12.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZINW12.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZIPM12.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZIPR12.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZIPT12.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZISN12.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPBMIAPI.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPBMINI.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPBOID.DLL C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPBOIDPS.DLL

    Given that above (which is all that I know), the question is:
    How do you archive a printer driver once it has been installed?

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to Danny D. on Sat Aug 27 10:41:57 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    "Danny D." <dannydiamico@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:npput3$45e$1@news.mixmin.net...
    How do you archive a printer driver once it has been installed?

    snip


    Drivers (HP Laserjet 2100) - available for practically every OS including Windows 10 32/64bit

    - http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=59533&lang=en&cc=us
    - http://tinyurl.com/zeog5bj

    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Danny D. on Fri Aug 26 14:14:59 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    Danny D. wrote:
    How do you archive a printer driver once it has been installed?

    In another thread, we found a secret trick to get Windows 10 to install an x64 printer driver for an HP Laserjet 2100m printer which has been discontinued, hence the printer driver is no longer available on the HP
    site nor is the printer driver part of the "normal" Windows 10 update process.

    The printer driver for the HP LJ 2100 is only part of the "special"
    temporary Windows 10 update process.

    That's fine - but what if the special Windows update stops carrying that particular printer driver?

    Just in case, is there an easy way to *archive* the printer driver?
    Here's what I know from printing a test page after running the super-secret special temporary Windows 10 update:

    - Windows Printer Test Page
    - You have correctly installed your HP LaserJet 2100 Series PCL5 on NAME
    - Print Processor = hpzpplhn
    - OS Environment = Windows x64
    - Driver Name = HP LaserJet 2100 Series PCL 5
    - Driver Type = Type 3 - User Mode
    - Driver Version = 6.1.7233.0
    - Additional Print Driver Files: C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\DRIVERS\x64\3\HPZLSLHN.DLL
    <<drive file names snipped>>>
    Given that above (which is all that I know), the question is:
    How do you archive a printer driver once it has been installed?

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/need-hp-laserjet-2100-printer-driver-for-a-windows/ff67dbf9-fca8-4b6f-a873-ade6e3b5434d?auth=1

    View this in Internet Explorer only. Notice they're careful to *not* list Windows 10 content in there.

    http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=hp%20laserjet%202100

    Microsoft driver update for Windows 7,Windows 8,Windows 8.1
    HP LaserJet 2100 Series PCL 5

    Drivers (Printers) 6/21/2006 6.1.7233.0 11.4 MB

    ;
    ; Windows Inbox Printer Drivers
    ;
    CatalogFile=prnhp001.cat
    DriverVer=06/21/2006,6.1.7233.0

    "HP LaserJet 2100 Series PCL 5" = hpmcpm25.gpd.IA64_WINSVR,
    HEWLETT-PACKARDHP_LA928D,
    HEWLETT-PACKARDHP_LA928D&BPRINT,
    DOT4PRT\HEWLETT-PACKARDHP_LA928D,
    HP_LaserJet_2100_Series_PCL_5 ; Hardware ID

    [hpmcpm25.gpd.IA64_WINSVR]
    PrintProcessor="hpzpplhn,hpzpplhn.dll"

    *******

    Now, many times the catalog.update.microsoft.com file is .msu
    and you can just select "install" to install it.

    This printer driver is a .cab and some items from
    the Catalog server are cabs. To install a cab, try

    dism /online /Add-Package /Package-Name:F:\some.cab

    That's the only command I have logged in my notes
    file for that. Obviously that won't work on
    WinXP, which has no dism.

    You can also find a folder with a whole bunch of .msi files,
    and sometimes those are used for Repair/Uninstall operations
    in Programs and Features. But maybe this time, such a
    thing is not involved, and printer drivers are handled
    (and stored) some other way.

    Just a guess,
    Paul

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  • From Danny D.@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Aug 27 09:43:03 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:14:59 -0400, Paul wrote:

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/need-hp-laserjet-2100-printer-driver-for-a-windows/ff67dbf9-fca8-4b6f-a873-ade6e3b5434d?auth=1

    This URL "implies" that there is a "universal printer driver": http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/need-hp-laserjet-2100-printer-driver-for-a-windows/ff67dbf9-fca8-4b6f-a873-ade6e3b5434d?auth=1

    So there *is* a "universal" printer driver after all!

    Which, the URL implies, supports the HP LJ 2100 that I have: http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c04324001#N107C4

    But, that URL (and all that follow) only gets you the PARK kit, which is basically a roll-your-own-printer-driver kit - which for a layperson - is useless.

    Bummer. The words were all there (HP universal printer driver) but the marketing is that you can write your own.

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  • From Danny D.@21:1/5 to wasbit on Sat Aug 27 09:59:58 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:41:57 +0100, wasbit wrote:

    Drivers (HP Laserjet 2100) - available for practically every OS including Windows 10 32/64bit

    - http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=59533&lang=en&cc=us
    - http://tinyurl.com/zeog5bj

    Thats a propaganda lie put out by HP.
    Nobody on the planet can *find* the driver at that URL for the Windows 10
    x64.

    No matter what buttons you hit, you get the 22MB PARK download, which is basically a roll-your-own-driver-from-scratch kit.

    That's fine for IT professionals - but for the layperson, that web page is
    just a propaganda ploy by HP Marketing.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Danny D. on Sat Aug 27 06:15:09 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    Danny D. wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:14:59 -0400, Paul wrote:

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/need-hp-laserjet-2100-printer-driver-for-a-windows/ff67dbf9-fca8-4b6f-a873-ade6e3b5434d?auth=1

    This URL "implies" that there is a "universal printer driver": http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-hardware/need-hp-laserjet-2100-printer-driver-for-a-windows/ff67dbf9-fca8-4b6f-a873-ade6e3b5434d?auth=1

    So there *is* a "universal" printer driver after all!

    Which, the URL implies, supports the HP LJ 2100 that I have: http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c04324001#N107C4

    But, that URL (and all that follow) only gets you the PARK kit, which is basically a roll-your-own-printer-driver kit - which for a layperson - is useless.

    Bummer. The words were all there (HP universal printer driver) but the marketing is that you can write your own.

    I have used the HP Universal Printer Driver,
    for PostScript "print to file" operations. It was my
    replacement for the old HP750C print driver
    I used to use for the same purpose. So there is
    no printer connected to the computer, but I can
    print and make a .ps file. Which is suitable
    materials for Distiller or for my Postscript editor.

    (We had one of these at work...)

    http://www.sprint-ink.co.uk/library/printers/hp/DesignJet-750C-Plus.jpg

    And the genealogy of this stuff is not documented.
    You won't find careful URL linkages that make
    sure you've got the best materials for the job.
    It requires a lot of rooting around in Google,
    to dig up the gems.

    Paul

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to Danny D. on Sat Aug 27 13:55:42 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On 08/27/2016 5:59 AM, Danny D. wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:41:57 +0100, wasbit wrote:

    Drivers (HP Laserjet 2100) - available for practically every OS including
    Windows 10 32/64bit

    -
    http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=59533&lang=en&cc=us
    - http://tinyurl.com/zeog5bj

    Thats a propaganda lie put out by HP.
    Nobody on the planet can *find* the driver at that URL for the Windows 10 x64.

    No matter what buttons you hit, you get the 22MB PARK download, which is basically a roll-your-own-driver-from-scratch kit.

    That's fine for IT professionals - but for the layperson, that web page is just a propaganda ploy by HP Marketing.


    http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=59533&lang=en&cc=us

    Apparently you did not open the URL It list drivers for Windows 10 both
    32 and 64 bit

    What is also surprising is that it list drivers for Windows 3.1 MS Dos
    and unix. And the big surprise is that there a driver for OS/2

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  • From Danny D.@21:1/5 to knuttle on Sat Aug 27 20:33:13 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:55:42 -0400, knuttle wrote:

    http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=59533&lang=en&cc=us

    Apparently you did not open the URL It list drivers for Windows 10 both
    32 and 64 bit

    What is also surprising is that it list drivers for Windows 3.1 MS Dos
    and unix. And the big surprise is that there a driver for OS/2

    That's just a trick page.
    When you actually download what you *think* is a driver, you get a 22MB
    PARK zip file which someone looked for me already and agreed it's a roll-your-own driver kit for system administrators.

    Try it.
    If you get the PARK kit, that's confirmation that it's all a big lie by HP Marketing for propaganda purposes.

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  • From Danny D.@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Aug 27 20:36:10 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 06:15:09 -0400, Paul wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:44:47 -0400, Paul wrote:

    The catalog.update.microsoft.com site uses an ActiveX plugin.

    The ActiveX plugin runs the "Shopping Cart" interface
    provided on the catalog server.

    It allows you to queue up a bunch of downloads, like
    search for 30 different items, and "add them to your cart".

    Then, once you start the download, you can go off and
    make dinner while it downloads.

    The list of downloads could be stored in a cookie, or
    a cookie could be used to sync a server-side grocery
    list.

    The reason for the ActiveX plugin, is to give
    the user that capability. When asked to install the
    ActiveX plugin, give it permission.

    Thank you for explaining why that site doesn't work with a major browser.
    I can't stand non-standard web sites but I'm currently stuck on WinXP for
    the archive of the printer driver because that's where all my archives are
    and the win 10 machine is at work.

    Microsoft "promises" to modify the Catalog site design,
    but given how Microsoft is also going to fuck over
    Win7 and Win8 updates anyway, I just assume they're
    not doing anything at the moment.

    I am on WInXP for my archives (that's where I have kept my software
    archives for years).

    If you use Internet Explorer, even Internet Explorer 6,
    you will be able to use catalog.update.microsoft.com .

    I located the never-used IE shortcut on WinXP and clicked on it and it said "Welcome to IE 8": http://i.cubeupload.com/rGjtq0.gif

    Then I went to https://catalog.update.microsoft.com with IE8.

    Ooooh. Pretty baby blue color! It says it wants to install a "catalog". http://i.cubeupload.com/wIUSmP.gif

    Wow. Whatever it installed sure does consume resources! http://i.cubeupload.com/BvJgYN.gif

    My CPU went to 100% in a second when the catalog started! http://i.cubeupload.com/Anxnqf.gif

    But a search does seem to find a huge amount of related "stuff". http://i.cubeupload.com/MJL47r.gif

    But most of the "stuff" seemed to be the same file. http://i.cubeupload.com/F4VMsK.gif

    Here's the description for just one of the stuffs:
    a. Microsoft driver update for HP LaserJet 2100 Series PCL 5
    b. Windows 7,Windows 8,Windows 8.1 and later drivers,Windows Server 2008 R2,Windows Server 2012,Windows Server 2012 R2 and later drivers
    c. Drivers (Printers)
    d. 6/21/2006
    e. 6.1.7233.0
    f. 11.6 MB 12129488

    The fact that a 10KB driver is "11.6MB" is already pretty suspicious.
    1. But I hit the "Add" button.
    2. And then the "catalog" button.
    3. And then the "download" button.
    4. And then the "browse" button.
    5. And then the "continue" button.
    6. And then the "done" button. (Can they make this more steps?) http://i.cubeupload.com/ugFCp9.gif

    Is "this" the archive of the HP LJ 2100 TN printer driver that I want? AMD64-all-4188_bacd1413e93b4a6362d9a2ca653c869f1c02f6f7.cab 11,846KB

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  • From Danny D.@21:1/5 to Danny D. on Sun Aug 28 23:38:12 2016
    XPost: alt.windows7.general, alt.comp.os.windows-10

    On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 17:39:48 -0000 (UTC), Danny D. wrote:

    How do you archive a printer driver once it has been installed?

    The answer seems to be the following, thanks to another current thread on
    the subject.

    On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 15:44:47 -0400, Paul wrote:

    The catalog.update.microsoft.com site uses an ActiveX plugin.

    The ActiveX plugin runs the "Shopping Cart" interface
    provided on the catalog server.

    It allows you to queue up a bunch of downloads, like
    search for 30 different items, and "add them to your cart".

    Then, once you start the download, you can go off and
    make dinner while it downloads.

    The list of downloads could be stored in a cookie, or
    a cookie could be used to sync a server-side grocery
    list.

    The reason for the ActiveX plugin, is to give
    the user that capability. When asked to install the
    ActiveX plugin, give it permission.

    Thank you for explaining why that site doesn't work with a major browser.
    I can't stand non-standard web sites but I'm currently stuck on WinXP for
    the archive of the printer driver because that's where all my archives are
    and the win 10 machine is at work.

    Microsoft "promises" to modify the Catalog site design,
    but given how Microsoft is also going to fuck over
    Win7 and Win8 updates anyway, I just assume they're
    not doing anything at the moment.

    I am on WInXP for my archives (that's where I have kept my software
    archives for years).

    If you use Internet Explorer, even Internet Explorer 6,
    you will be able to use catalog.update.microsoft.com .

    I located the never-used IE shortcut on WinXP and clicked on it and it said "Welcome to IE 8": http://i.cubeupload.com/rGjtq0.gif

    Then I went to https://catalog.update.microsoft.com with IE8.

    Ooooh. Pretty baby blue color! It says it wants to install a "catalog". http://i.cubeupload.com/wIUSmP.gif

    Wow. Whatever it installed sure does consume resources! http://i.cubeupload.com/BvJgYN.gif

    My CPU went to 100% in a second when the catalog started! http://i.cubeupload.com/Anxnqf.gif

    But a search does seem to find a huge amount of related "stuff". http://i.cubeupload.com/MJL47r.gif

    But most of the "stuff" seemed to be the same file. http://i.cubeupload.com/F4VMsK.gif

    Here's the description for just one of the stuffs:
    a. Microsoft driver update for HP LaserJet 2100 Series PCL 5
    b. Windows 7,Windows 8,Windows 8.1 and later drivers,Windows Server 2008 R2,Windows Server 2012,Windows Server 2012 R2 and later drivers
    c. Drivers (Printers)
    d. 6/21/2006
    e. 6.1.7233.0
    f. 11.6 MB 12129488

    The fact that a 10KB driver is "11.6MB" is already pretty suspicious.
    1. But I hit the "Add" button.
    2. And then the "catalog" button.
    3. And then the "download" button.
    4. And then the "browse" button.
    5. And then the "continue" button.
    6. And then the "done" button. (Can they make this more steps?) http://i.cubeupload.com/ugFCp9.gif

    Is "this" the archive of the HP LJ 2100 TN printer driver that I want? AMD64-all-4188_bacd1413e93b4a6362d9a2ca653c869f1c02f6f7.cab 11,846KB


    If you open the archive with 7ZIP, one of the
    files at the top level is

    prnhp001.inf

    And that is a text file. INF files are
    used by installers.

    There is a section in there, which lists the
    hardware supported. For PNP subsystem usage.

    7ZIP can be obtained here. It's a tool which
    will open a variety of archive types. GZIP,
    7Z, RAR, VHD files, raw disk img files. Opening
    some file types causes unfortunate usage of
    %temp%, while some of the other types can be
    processed quite quickly. This is one of the
    first programs I install on a fresh OS install.

    http://7-zip.org/

    7ZIP will not open InstallShield cabs but it
    will open the Microsoft cab in your example.
    There is a whole sub-species of "packers"
    which cannot be opened by 7ZIP as well.
    For example, I wouldn't expect a UPX compressed
    EXE to open in 7ZIP as an archive.

    Paul

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