Ok, correct me if I am wrong here, but the Maya realm of Beyond Atlantis (Atlantis II) seems to be full of distracting historical inaccuracies.
Clearly, this is supposed to be the Maya civilization as the box states the location as the Yucatan. But I see references to Aztec and Inca culture everywhere.
First, the location looks like it has been terraced. I may be mistaken, but weren't the Incas the civilization to employ terrace farming? Ok, maybe I'm wrong here, but I always thought it was the Incas.
More important though are the references to gods such as Quetzalcoatl (Feathered Serpent) and Tezcatlipoca (Smoking Mirror). I'm pretty sure that these are Aztec gods. Not Mayan. So, what are they doing here?
Last, while the temples certainly look Mayan, I believe that the basketball-like game pit is characteristic of Aztec culture.
So, am I correct in these statements? I know that Beyond Atlantis is not trying to be historically accurate the way a game like The Sacred Amulet is, but errors like this really ruin the believability of a game world. Id be interested to hear your feedback. Thanks.
-BAMM
Ok, correct me if I am wrong here, but the Maya realm of Beyond Atlantis (Atlantis II) seems to be full of distracting historical inaccuracies.
Clearly, this is supposed to be the Maya civilization as the box states the location as the Yucatan. But I see references to Aztec and Inca culture everywhere.
First, the location looks like it has been terraced. I may be mistaken, but weren't the Incas the civilization to employ terrace farming? Ok, maybe I'm wrong here, but I always thought it was the Incas.
More important though are the references to gods such as Quetzalcoatl (Feathered Serpent) and Tezcatlipoca (Smoking Mirror). I'm pretty sure that these are Aztec gods. Not Mayan. So, what are they doing here?
Last, while the temples certainly look Mayan, I believe that the basketball-like game pit is characteristic of Aztec culture.
So, am I correct in these statements? I know that Beyond Atlantis is not trying to be historically accurate the way a game like The Sacred Amulet is, but errors like this really ruin the believability of a game world. Id be interested to hear your feedback. Thanks.
-BAMM
YUCK!
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katiedidit
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P12 <nomail@all.com> wrote in message news:hcc0rs08pfg56t8mb8ojn55kduovsg17pb@4ax.com...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:03:05 -0400, "Jenny100" <Jenny100@nospam.com>
wrote:
Did the Mayans even have a god as bloodthirsty as Tezcatlipoca?
From what I've heard the Aztecs were a lot bloodier than the
Mayans.
I think so. I have figurine my mother got in Mexico that is supposed
to be a replica of a Mayan place to sacrifice people. She said the
native who sold it to her had stories about tearing peoples heads out
on that piece of stone.
Yeah, I try to follow the order of the Stones on the road and the locations on the CD. Ireland is the only world I have completed as of now, and it was fantastic. It struck a perfect balance between story, characterization, puzzles, and gameplay. Plus, the music was just wonderful. Maya seems good, but the world does not seem as believable and the puzzles are much, much harder. But then again, the land of the dead's river is simply stunning. It will probably be the visual highlight of the game for me (if you don't count that yummy priestess). ;-)
-BAMM
"P12" <nomail@all.com> wrote in message news:bdi0rs4d6ab93uq4sm311sdl9fb67quvfp@4ax.com...NICE TO MEET YOU BY THE WAY KC..JENS BOSS OR WHATEVER IT IS YOU ARE
On Fri, 01 Sep 2000 23:31:13 GMT, "BAMMFrazer" <BAMMFrazer@att.net>
wrote:
thisYeah, I know, but it seems they are mixing cultures to fit their story
sincetime. Maybe it is a kinda transition period. Its not that big of deal
asthis is not a realistic game, but the Maya mythology just does not seem
(Iauthentic as the mythology used as the backbone for the Ireland segment
have not played China yet).
-BAMM
Ireland was my favorite part of the game. I loved that part. I
guess you played it in the same order as me.
erimess wrote:
The Pagans I know (I know an interesting lot of people) have some of
their beliefs based on Celtic lore, but none of those dieties
mentioned by others sound at all familiar to me.
I think their aim is to reinvent polytheism in an aspect
with generalised references to Germanic and Celtic legends
about their gods and heroes, and archaeological speculations
about the mythological role of Mother Earth in preliterate
societies.
(I also am not
familiar with that game, so I don't know how that fits in.) Their
gods are based on Norse mythology. I believe Odin is like the "head honcho." I'm also trying to think if they celebrate Midsummers Eve.
It would seem likely. Historically, many societies did,
whatever their religion.
That doesn't sound familiar, though I don't remember (if I ever knew)
all their holidays.
It's kind of ironic that if the church in Europe hadn't preserved
the old folk customs, but had gone the Mohammedan route of making
an almost complete break, then there would have been too little
left of the ancient customs for neo-pagans to make anything of.
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Best wishes!
Geoffrey Tobin
Email: G.Tobin@latrobe.edu.au
WWW: http://www.ee.latrobe.edu.au/~gt/gt.html
On Thu, 07 Sep 2000 13:24:24 +1100, Geoffrey Tobin
<G.Tobin@latrobe.edu.au> wrote:
Curiously, the Mayan symbol for "mouth" is both written
and pronounced similarly to the equivalent Chinese word.
This suggests that (1) the Mayan and Chinese languages
may have at least one common source language, and
(2) writing may be a lot older than we know.
I have heard there are commonalities between some Oriental arts and
one or several of the historical peoples of South America. (Don't
remember who.) This is a vague memory in the back of my mind, so I
could be completely full of it.
erimess
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
YUCK!
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katiedidit
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P12 <nomail@all.com> wrote in message news:hcc0rs08pfg56t8mb8ojn55kduovsg17pb@4ax.com...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 17:03:05 -0400, "Jenny100" <Jenny100@nospam.com>
wrote:
Did the Mayans even have a god as bloodthirsty as Tezcatlipoca?
From what I've heard the Aztecs were a lot bloodier than the
Mayans.
I think so. I have figurine my mother got in Mexico that is supposed
to be a replica of a Mayan place to sacrifice people. She said the
native who sold it to her had stories about tearing peoples heads out
on that piece of stone.
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