Any manufacturer who wanted to sell any phone around my town must either provide the jack or an equivalent.
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In article <t3d6k8$1942$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:
The fact *most phones* have the industry standard jack is _not_ a niche.
what matters is if it's actually *used* and it is not.
the space can be better used for other things that are more useful to
more people, especially given that an analog jack is redundant.
apple doesn't care what you do with a product once it's been purchased.
apple doesn't care what you do with a product once it's been purchased.
The sort of wallet gardening seen in Apple devices clearly proves they have an
idea of how their products are to be used,
and they clearly want to bill you
if you want to step off the safe area.
For example, you can only use Apps aproved by Apple out of the box.
If I want
to use a program I wrote, I am expected to buy an subscription as an App developer and load my program into the phone using their channels, which is utterly bonkers.
There are programs known to work on iOS which don't have an official version because the developers won't go through the hassle and expense required.
all companies have ideas on how their products are to be used, however,
that doesn't prohibit anyone from doing something else.
and they clearly want to bill you
if you want to step off the safe area.
no they don't.
For example, you can only use Apps aproved by Apple out of the box.
same for android and windows 10s.
microsoft originally wanted to charge money to 'upgrade' to windows 10
from 10s.
If I want
to use a program I wrote, I am expected to buy an subscription as an App developer and load my program into the phone using their channels, which i utterly bonkers.
that is absolutely false.
anyone can write their own apps and use them on their own devices.
apple even stated that would *always* be the case.
Not that it matters, because Android is a depictable platform in any case,
but
on an Android phone you can hit a configuration switch and install extraofficial apk's to your heart's content.
Meanwhile, you need an Apple account to install your own stuff, and the free tier is only suitable for testing and does not help you install any program you want to run regularly.
Unless you are fine reinstalling the same piece of
software everytime the development center decides your "experimental" install is expired.
Smartphoens will rape your data plan very hard if you depend on streaming services for listening to music or newscasts, hence heavy FM use in areas where Internet connectivity is not plentyful.
XPost: comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
In article <t3lj38$fas$1@dont-email.me>, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
As somebody else already pointed out,
the analog jack with cable is required for FM radio reception,
the headphone lead in that case functions as antenna.
fm radio is almost never used on a phone for a number of reasons,
including a distance limit of roughly 50 miles (usually less due to
terrain) and that headphones are required (and not coiled up stuffed
into a pocket), making it impossible to listen with bluetooth wireless headphones, the internal speakers or external speakers.
smartphones do not have any of those limitations and can stream
stations from anywhere in the world, and not just fm, but also am, police/fire, air traffic control and more.
more commonly, smartphones stream from music services such as spotify
or from podcast networks, and of course, anything stored locally on the phone.
people can listen via any headset, wired or wireless, internal
speakers, which on many phones are reasonably good, or external
speakers.
In article <650392066@f1.n770.z10242.fidonet.org>, Richard Falken <nospam.Richard.Falken@f1.n770.z10242.fidonet.org> wrote:
Smartphoens will rape your data plan very hard if you depend on streamingservice
for listening to music or newscasts, hence heavy FM use in areas whereInternet
connectivity is not plentyful.
cellular data plans are only needed if there's no wifi.
most people have wifi at home, work and/or school, which is where they normally listen to the radio (or watch tv), and won't need to use *any* cellular da
Smartphoens will rape your data plan very hard if you depend on streaming services for listening to music or newscasts, hence heavy FM use in areas where
Internet connectivity is not plentyful.
Thinking everybody has an unlimited data plan is very First Worlder but some people still has plans with FUPs that cap at 2 GB and need all of it for important things.
A 2 GB data cap used to listen to 192 kbps MP3s maxes out at about ~
1400 minutes or 23.3 hrs. As most podcasts, news programs, and radio
streams are streamed at 128 kbps or lower (often 64 kbps for
podcasts), you're looking at 34h 43min of content / month. For _video_
a 2 GB data cap is pretty rough, but for audio data really not so.
A 2 GB data cap used to listen to 192 kbps MP3s maxes out at about ~
1400 minutes or 23.3 hrs. As most podcasts, news programs, and radio streams are streamed at 128 kbps or lower (often 64 kbps for
podcasts), you're looking at 34h 43min of content / month. For _video_
a 2 GB data cap is pretty rough, but for audio data really not so.
Even if people used their data plan solely for streaming (which they don't) a 35 h quota will burn down quite quickly if you listen to music for 4 to 6 hours per day.
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:56:52 -0400, nospam wrote:
In article <t3tmec$g9c$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:
They even ridiculed the concept of writing in hex, where, if anyone has
_ever_ programmed EPROMs like I have, you get good at rote hex coding.
one does not 'code in hex' and eproms are not programmed. they are for
storing data, and unlike regular proms, can be erased and rewritten if
there are any changes.
you're not fooling anyone.
Proms & Eproms are programmed, that is what the 'p' Stands for
you do it with an (e)prom programmer.
the data to program (or 'Burn' as it was commonly called) could either be uploaded to the programmer via a serial cable or manualy entered via a hex keypad. Many earlier experimenters assembled their code by hand & used
this approach.
Therefore I am a bit defensive with this subject.
A 2 GB data cap used to listen to 192 kbps MP3s maxes out at about ~
1400 minutes or 23.3 hrs. As most podcasts, news programs, and radio streams are streamed at 128 kbps or lower (often 64 kbps for
podcasts), you're looking at 34h 43min of content / month. For _video_
a 2 GB data cap is pretty rough, but for audio data really not so.
Even if people used their data plan solely for streaming (which they don't) a 35 h quota will burn down quite quickly if you listen to music for 4 to 6 hours
per day.
I'm hard-pressed to find a person who spend 4-6 hrs a day listening to
music on a 2 GB data cap. This feels to me like a bit of a unicorn. I
On 2022-04-19, Richard Falken <nospam.Richard.Falken@f1.n770.z10261.fidonet.org> wrote:
Therefore I am a bit defensive with this subject.
I'd love to see statistics about this FWIW if you're based in the
US. I'm helping out a few friends working for a local government
trialing out telecoms regulations. Data caps this low are indeed
terrible, and rural service is often the one where providers try to
cut corners the most (understandably because rural areas have low
population density and generally low incomes from the potential
subscriber base.) Rural users are often treated the worst due to the economics and a lack of awareness for rural users to be able to
complain in the necessary places. But generally, according to the
surveys my friends have run, internet isn't _this_ bad. Data caps are
higher (high enough to consume some Youtube) and speeds are, well,
okay but not good.
Anyone know of such a thing at a not-too-outrageous price?
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