• Do you use a password manager?

    From Calum@21:1/5 to Wade Garrett on Mon Jul 12 13:59:29 2021
    On 12/07/2021 12:37, Wade Garrett wrote:

    If there's one that keeps the data just on the local machine, I'd be interested.

    You can certainly do that with 1Password, and it also has the option to
    sync to other devices via a shared folder on your LAN. (Although I think
    that option only exists on desktop versions, so you wouldn't be able to
    sync to your phone that way.)

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to rtr on Sun Nov 28 14:26:37 2021
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2021-11-27 22:51:45 +0000, rtr said:
    On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 09:53:00 +0000
    Unbreakable Disease <unbreakable@secmail.pro> wrote:

    My 50-year old brain isn't capable of memorizing that many passwords
    anymore, so I use KeePassXC. I keep basically everything here
    including my financial passwords and credit card data, with the
    exception of passwords that I would have to remember anyway
    (full-disk encryption, login, primary e-mail passwords, etc.)

    Overall, it's much easier to remember and much harder to forget 10
    complicated passwords that you use everyday than 100+ simple
    passwords you use every month or even less.

    I can't speak about Windows version of KeePass, because with the
    exception of playing games not available on Macintosh, I haven't used
    one since Windows 95 days.

    I use Pass, which is a command-line only password manager using git and
    gpg. It's good and lightweight.

    MacOS has the Keychain app built-in.

    1Password used to be a good third-party option, but recently it has
    been tending more towards silly subscription-based pricing and storing everything in the silly cloud. Probably best avoided in case some
    future version decides that's the only way to use it.

    There are numerous other third-party options.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to bitbucket@blackhole.com on Wed Dec 1 19:00:03 2021
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <lUTpJ.176380$I%1.140025@fx36.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    1Password used to be a good third-party option, but recently it has been tending more towards silly subscription-based pricing and storing everything in the silly cloud. Probably best avoided in case some future version decides that's the only way to use it.

    You can still buy the standalone version. (I have it).

    nope. they've stopped selling the standalone licenses after the
    announcement of version 8.

    <https://1password.community/discussion/122755/looking-to-buy-a-1passwor d-7-standalone-non-subscription-licence-ugprade>
    Standalone licenses are no longer for sale I am afraid, sorry. To
    upgrade your 1Password app to version 7 or 8, you will need a
    Membership. Please see this post from our founder Dave with all
    the details

    And of course you store the encrypted database in a cloud location so
    your many devices in many places can access the most recent data in it (whether the subscription or "all paid" version).

    yep.

    I find Dropbox to be less problematic than Apple iCloud. The latter has required that after changes made (ie) at home to appear on my work Mac
    that I quit 1P and run it again. No such issues with Dropbox as the
    cloud location.

    no such problem here.

    dropbox has become incredibly bloated and bad that it's no longer
    usable. it also hooks into the os in evil ways.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Your Name on Wed Dec 1 18:51:45 2021
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2021-11-27 20:26, Your Name wrote:

    1Password used to be a good third-party option, but recently it has been tending more towards silly subscription-based pricing and storing
    everything in the silly cloud. Probably best avoided in case some future version decides that's the only way to use it.

    You can still buy the standalone version. (I have it).

    And of course you store the encrypted database in a cloud location so
    your many devices in many places can access the most recent data in it
    (whether the subscription or "all paid" version).

    I find Dropbox to be less problematic than Apple iCloud. The latter has required that after changes made (ie) at home to appear on my work Mac
    that I quit 1P and run it again. No such issues with Dropbox as the
    cloud location.

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Dec 1 19:46:57 2021
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2021-12-01 19:00, nospam wrote:
    In article <lUTpJ.176380$I%1.140025@fx36.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    1Password used to be a good third-party option, but recently it has been >>> tending more towards silly subscription-based pricing and storing
    everything in the silly cloud. Probably best avoided in case some future >>> version decides that's the only way to use it.

    You can still buy the standalone version. (I have it).

    nope. they've stopped selling the standalone licenses after the
    announcement of version 8.

    <https://1password.community/discussion/122755/looking-to-buy-a-1passwor d-7-standalone-non-subscription-licence-ugprade>
    Standalone licenses are no longer for sale I am afraid, sorry. To
    upgrade your 1Password app to version 7 or 8, you will need a
    Membership. Please see this post from our founder Dave with all
    the details

    Then when 1P standalone breaks "usability" I will part company with them.

    And of course you store the encrypted database in a cloud location so
    your many devices in many places can access the most recent data in it
    (whether the subscription or "all paid" version).

    yep.

    I find Dropbox to be less problematic than Apple iCloud. The latter has
    required that after changes made (ie) at home to appear on my work Mac
    that I quit 1P and run it again. No such issues with Dropbox as the
    cloud location.

    no such problem here.

    dropbox has become incredibly bloated and bad that it's no longer
    usable. it also hooks into the os in evil ways.

    It's very usable. I have tons of files on it for various uses and
    access files from many devices on a daily basis for both personal and
    work. There is no "bloat" affecting that.

    I also use iCloud for some things. There is often a "wait" while it
    downloads files. Seems to wait until one wants a file rather than being
    in sycn asap as Dropbox does.

    Regardless, over the years I've had various issues using iCloud for 1P
    sync. It will be fine for a few months and then go bonkers. Could be
    because my home and work Macs are at different OS versions coupled to
    1Password also being at different versions (home v. work Macs).

    I don't care about that while Dropbox has been more reliable in this
    regard - consistently.

    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to bitbucket@blackhole.com on Wed Dec 1 20:42:56 2021
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <5IUpJ.70459$qz4.49635@fx97.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    dropbox has become incredibly bloated and bad that it's no longer
    usable. it also hooks into the os in evil ways.

    It's very usable. I have tons of files on it for various uses and
    access files from many devices on a daily basis for both personal and
    work. There is no "bloat" affecting that.

    the dropbox client is electron app (bloat) which contains a chrome
    browser (more bloat). it's also a major resource hog. it's garbage.

    <https://www.macrumors.com/guide/five-alternative-dropbox-clients/>
    The Dropbox app has a troubled reputation among Mac users. The
    client is often called out for using significant system resources,
    even when it's not doing anything in the background. And when it
    does lurch into action, syncing with Dropbox's servers can sometimes
    be painfully slow, for no obvious reason.

    Added to this is the fact that almost a year after the first Macs
    with the M1 chip became available, Dropbox still doesn't natively
    support Apple silicon, and won't until sometime in 2022. That means
    M1 Mac owners must use Dropbox with Rosetta, and reports suggest the
    client hemorrhages MacBook battery life and uses a disproportionate
    amount of memory on Apple silicon Macs.

    the above link lists alternative dropbox clients.

    I also use iCloud for some things. There is often a "wait" while it downloads files. Seems to wait until one wants a file rather than being
    in sycn asap as Dropbox does.

    Regardless, over the years I've had various issues using iCloud for 1P
    sync. It will be fine for a few months and then go bonkers. Could be because my home and work Macs are at different OS versions coupled to 1Password also being at different versions (home v. work Macs).

    i've never seen any such issue across a wide array of macs, iphones and
    ipads.

    I don't care about that while Dropbox has been more reliable in this
    regard - consistently.

    opposite for me.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Dec 2 08:25:35 2021
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2021-12-01 20:42, nospam wrote:
    In article <5IUpJ.70459$qz4.49635@fx97.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    dropbox has become incredibly bloated and bad that it's no longer
    usable. it also hooks into the os in evil ways.

    It's very usable. I have tons of files on it for various uses and
    access files from many devices on a daily basis for both personal and
    work. There is no "bloat" affecting that.

    the dropbox client is electron app (bloat) which contains a chrome
    browser (more bloat). it's also a major resource hog. it's garbage.

    <https://www.macrumors.com/guide/five-alternative-dropbox-clients/>
    The Dropbox app has a troubled reputation among Mac users. The
    client is often called out for using significant system resources,
    even when it's not doing anything in the background. And when it
    does lurch into action, syncing with Dropbox's servers can sometimes
    be painfully slow, for no obvious reason.

    Added to this is the fact that almost a year after the first Macs
    with the M1 chip became available, Dropbox still doesn't natively
    support Apple silicon, and won't until sometime in 2022. That means
    M1 Mac owners must use Dropbox with Rosetta, and reports suggest the
    client hemorrhages MacBook battery life and uses a disproportionate
    amount of memory on Apple silicon Macs.

    the above link lists alternative dropbox clients.

    I don't care. It is more useful for me for many things than iCloud.
    And for 1P sync there is only iCloud or Dropbox.

    I also use iCloud for some things. There is often a "wait" while it
    downloads files. Seems to wait until one wants a file rather than being
    in sycn asap as Dropbox does.

    Regardless, over the years I've had various issues using iCloud for 1P
    sync. It will be fine for a few months and then go bonkers. Could be
    because my home and work Macs are at different OS versions coupled to
    1Password also being at different versions (home v. work Macs).

    i've never seen any such issue across a wide array of macs, iphones and ipads.

    Of course.


    I don't care about that while Dropbox has been more reliable in this
    regard - consistently.

    opposite for me.

    Of course.


    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens

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