• [NEWS] Apple announces new products

    From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 21 13:33:43 2021
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    At today's event Apple has announced ...


    - M1 iMac 24-inch in multiple colours
    <https://www.apple.com/imac-24/>

    - M1 iPad Pro 11-inch and 12.9-inch
    <https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/>

    - iPhone 12 in Purple
    <https://www.apple.com/iphone-12/>

    - Apple TV 4K with new Siri Remote
    <https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/>

    - AirTag
    <https://www.apple.com/airtag/>


    All the announcements are online at <https://www.apple.com/apple-events/april-2021/>

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  • From Wizard1969@21:4/137 to Your Name on Wed Apr 21 23:15:02 2021
    Remember when the NeXT guys were in charge and Apple was innovative? It's
    been more than a decade. Well, the stock price is up and that is all that matters.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Wizard1969@f137.n4.z21.fsxnet on Thu Apr 22 01:42:18 2021
    In article <1568525121@f137.n4.z21.fsxnet>, Wizard1969 <Wizard1969@f137.n4.z21.fsxnet> wrote:

    Remember when the NeXT guys were in charge and Apple was innovative? It's been more than a decade. Well, the stock price is up and that is all that matters.

    i remember when trolls put in a little effort.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 22 18:40:09 2021
    On 2021-04-21 11:15:02 +0000, Wizard1969 said:

    Remember when the NeXT guys were in charge and Apple was innovative? It's been more than a decade. Well, the stock price is up and that is all that matters.

    Making coloured iMacs certainly is not innovative by any strecth of the imagaination, neither is making a big deal about a purple coloured
    iPhone, but Apple Silicon chips are highly innovative and beat the
    {beep} out of all the others in most ways. Putting what is bascially a
    full computer CPU into a tablet is somewhat innovative.

    Apple is not always been innovative, in fact little of what they have
    done or do is actually "innovative". Often they have "come late to the
    party", but with a much better product. The most obvious examples being
    Apple didn't invent the smartphone or tablet computer, but they
    certainly created the general market desire for them via products that
    looked great and actually work better than the competition.

    Much of Apple's actual innovation is in the small details and the
    thousands of patents they have for various little things (much of which
    they don't actually use in any products).

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Your Name on Thu Apr 22 14:44:14 2021
    On 2021-04-22, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2021-04-21 11:15:02 +0000, Wizard1969 said:

    Remember when the NeXT guys were in charge and Apple was innovative? It's
    been more than a decade. Well, the stock price is up and that is all that
    matters.

    Making coloured iMacs certainly is not innovative by any strecth of the imagaination, neither is making a big deal about a purple coloured
    iPhone, but Apple Silicon chips are highly innovative and beat the
    {beep} out of all the others in most ways. Putting what is bascially a
    full computer CPU into a tablet is somewhat innovative.

    Apple is not always been innovative, in fact little of what they have
    done or do is actually "innovative". Often they have "come late to the party", but with a much better product. The most obvious examples being
    Apple didn't invent the smartphone or tablet computer, but they
    certainly created the general market desire for them via products that
    looked great and actually work better than the competition.

    Much of Apple's actual innovation is in the small details and the
    thousands of patents they have for various little things (much of which
    they don't actually use in any products).

    Dipshits like Whizzy don't know what innovation actually is. They are
    too consumed by petulant hate to even care.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wizard1969@f137.n4.z21.fsxnet on Thu Apr 22 14:42:51 2021
    On 2021-04-21, Wizard1969 <Wizard1969@f137.n4.z21.fsxnet> wrote:
    Remember when the NeXT guys were in charge and Apple was innovative? It's been more than a decade. Well, the stock price is up and that is all that matters.

    Your tiny Apple hate boner is showing, kiddo.

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  • From Wizard1969@21:4/137 to Jolly Roger on Sun Apr 25 23:50:17 2021
    My cost basis on my recently sold Apple stock was less than a dollar a share.
    I know a little bit about innovation, I certainly knew enough to buy Apple
    when no one liked them in the late 1990's. I also can tell when a company
    stops innovating, dipshit.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Wizard1969@f137.n4.z21.fsxnet on Mon Apr 26 13:15:02 2021
    On 2021-04-25, Wizard1969 <Wizard1969@f137.n4.z21.fsxnet> wrote:

    I also can tell when a company stops innovating, dipshit.

    Obviously not, since Apple hasn't stopped innovating.

    Stay dumb, idiot.

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  • From Voltan@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Tue Apr 27 15:08:16 2021
    On Apr 26, 2021, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <iensmmFn00cU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2021-04-25, Wizard1969<Wizard1969@f137.n4.z21.fsxnet> wrote:

    I also can tell when a company stops innovating, dipshit.

    Obviously not, since Apple hasn't stopped innovating.

    Stay dumb, idiot.

    Hey Jolly Roger,

    I donā€™t necessarily agree that Apple has stopped innovating entirely but Wizard1969 makes a good point about how firing the NeXT developers right
    after Steve Jobs died , I think particularly Scott Forstall and John Browett
    , has made at least the software end of things stagnant. You were also the
    one that opened up with the dumb ad-hominem against him instead of arguing a point.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Voltan on Tue Apr 27 19:08:12 2021
    In article <0001HW.2638C2D0030D40E97000059FF38F@us.newsdemon.com>,
    Voltan <voltan@hawktheslayer.com> wrote:

    I also can tell when a company stops innovating, dipshit.

    Obviously not, since Apple hasn't stopped innovating.

    Stay dumb, idiot.

    Hey Jolly Roger,

    I don¹t necessarily agree that Apple has stopped innovating entirely but Wizard1969 makes a good point about how firing the NeXT developers right after Steve Jobs died ,

    they did no such thing.

    I think particularly Scott Forstall and John Browett

    both deserved to be fired, particularly forstall.

    has made at least the software end of things stagnant.

    nonsense. it is in no way stagnant.

    You were also the
    one that opened up with the dumb ad-hominem against him instead of arguing a point.

    there wasn't any point.

    it was a troll from the start.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Voltan on Tue Apr 27 23:55:32 2021
    On 2021-04-27, Voltan <voltan@hawktheslayer.com> wrote:
    On Apr 26, 2021, Jolly Roger wrote
    (in article <iensmmFn00cU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 2021-04-25, Wizard1969<Wizard1969@f137.n4.z21.fsxnet> wrote:

    I also can tell when a company stops innovating, dipshit.

    Obviously not, since Apple hasn't stopped innovating.

    Stay dumb, idiot.

    Hey Jolly Roger,

    I donā€™t necessarily agree that Apple has stopped innovating

    They *haven't* stopped innovating. Clueless people who claim that are
    just plain *wrong*. Often, they don't even know what innovation is. They
    seem to think only "never-before-seen inventions" qualify as innovation,
    when that's definitely not the case.

    Wizard1969 makes a good point about how firing the NeXT developers
    right after Steve Jobs died

    Fake news. Apple didn't do that. But since you mention it, Avie Tevanian leaving in 2006 (five years *before* Steve died) was *definitely* a Good Thingā„¢. His utterly revolting Technical Note 2034 nearly drove long-time Apple developers away from the Mac platform in droves, it was so
    anti-Apple in nature. What a complete shit show that was! Good riddance.

    <http://www.drissman.com/avi/misc/tn2034/reply.txt>

    I think particularly Scott Forstall

    Nah. Scott Forstall was holding Apple back on multiple fronts. It was
    time for new blood.

    and John Browett

    No, he was detrimental to Apple's retail goals, and was famous for Apple
    Store policies and reductions in store staff that detracted from the
    customer experience in the name of squeezing as much profit as possible
    from them. Angela Ahrendts reversed things and was a *much* better fit.

    has made at least the software end of things stagnant.

    Nope. Apple's software isn't stagnant.

    instead of arguing a point.

    His point (that Apple no longer innovates) is wrong.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Tue Apr 27 20:37:20 2021
    In article <iermjkFepdfU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:


    Wizard1969 makes a good point about how firing the NeXT developers
    right after Steve Jobs died

    Fake news. Apple didn't do that. But since you mention it, Avie Tevanian leaving in 2006 (five years *before* Steve died) was *definitely* a Good Thing. His utterly revolting Technical Note 2034 nearly drove long-time Apple developers away from the Mac platform in droves, it was so
    anti-Apple in nature. What a complete shit show that was! Good riddance.

    avi was an arrogant conceited obnoxious prick.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Apr 28 16:05:20 2021
    On 2021-04-28, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <iermjkFepdfU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
    <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:


    Wizard1969 makes a good point about how firing the NeXT developers
    right after Steve Jobs died

    Fake news. Apple didn't do that. But since you mention it, Avie Tevanian
    leaving in 2006 (five years *before* Steve died) was *definitely* a Good
    ThingĀ. His utterly revolting Technical Note 2034 nearly drove long-time
    Apple developers away from the Mac platform in droves, it was so
    anti-Apple in nature. What a complete shit show that was! Good riddance.

    avi was an arrogant conceited obnoxious prick.

    Yep. Good riddance.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Wed Apr 28 12:59:44 2021
    In article <ietfdvFotseU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Wizard1969 makes a good point about how firing the NeXT developers
    right after Steve Jobs died

    Fake news. Apple didn't do that. But since you mention it, Avie Tevanian >> leaving in 2006 (five years *before* Steve died) was *definitely* a Good >> Thing?. His utterly revolting Technical Note 2034 nearly drove long-time >> Apple developers away from the Mac platform in droves, it was so
    anti-Apple in nature. What a complete shit show that was! Good riddance.

    avi was an arrogant conceited obnoxious prick.

    Yep. Good riddance.

    he insisted carbon could never work and cocoa was the only way forward.

    fortunately, saner heads prevailed.

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