A friend brought over her Macbook which she is locked out of. She claims
she never changed her password and that it happened after she linked it
to her phone.
All she can do is log-in as guest.
I found that the machine has a BIOS lock so I cannot perform any of the normal reset procedures.
Before I have her take it to the Apple store...anything else I should try?
Ok.
I was able to sign into her account from my own computer but as far as password reset options...the only device listed was her phone.
I went back to her computer and tried the password reset option but the webpage dialog box was blocked by parental controls. From the guest account there is no way to change that without knowing the admin password.
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock.
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was incorrect.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have invalidated her p/w. She claims she did not change it.
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock.
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was incorrect.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have invalidated her p/w.i
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock.
That's intentional, as it prevents the machine from being useful to strangers.
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was incorrect.
Please use the correct terminology. It's called a "firmware passcode" -
Macs do not use BIOS.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have invalidated her p/w.i
"Linking" isn't a term that is typically used, so what she actually did
is anyone's guess. Syncing her iPhone with her Mac wouldn't change any passwords. So either she's mistaken, or she's not telling you
everything.
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock.
That's intentional, as it prevents the machine from being useful to strangers.
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was
incorrect.
Please use the correct terminology. It's called a "firmware passcode" -
Macs do not use BIOS.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have
invalidated her p/w.i
"Linking" isn't a term that is typically used, so what she actually did
is anyone's guess. Syncing her iPhone with her Mac wouldn't change any passwords. So either she's mistaken, or she's not telling you
everything.
It absolutely does have a firmawre passcode.
She worked for a large corporation that went out of business and was
allowed the keep her company laptop once the IT dept setup a personal
account and removed the company's.
My guess is that she never knew the password and it had simply been set
to automatically log-in and perhaps she simply took it off auto-login.
On 03/12/2021 20:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock.
That's intentional, as it prevents the machine from being useful to
strangers.
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was
incorrect.
Please use the correct terminology. It's called a "firmware passcode" -
Macs do not use BIOS.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have
invalidated her p/w.i
"Linking" isn't a term that is typically used, so what she actually did
is anyone's guess. Syncing her iPhone with her Mac wouldn't change any
passwords. So either she's mistaken, or she's not telling you
everything.
Do you recall telling me that the reason I couldn't start in Safe Boot
mode was because I had set a firmware password?
On 12/3/21 5:28 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/12/2021 20:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock.
That's intentional, as it prevents the machine from being useful to
strangers.
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was
incorrect.
Please use the correct terminology. It's called a "firmware passcode" -
Macs do not use BIOS.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have
invalidated her p/w.i
"Linking" isn't a term that is typically used, so what she actually did
is anyone's guess. Syncing her iPhone with her Mac wouldn't change any >>> passwords. So either she's mistaken, or she's not telling you
everything.
Do you recall telling me that the reason I couldn't start in Safe Boot
mode was because I had set a firmware password?
I have a pretty good memory but don't recall that one.
On 03/12/2021 23:31, philo wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:28 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/12/2021 20:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
That's intentional, as it prevents the machine from being useful to
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock. >>>>
strangers.
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was >>>>> incorrect.
Please use the correct terminology. It's called a "firmware passcode" - >>>> Macs do not use BIOS.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have
invalidated her p/w.i
"Linking" isn't a term that is typically used, so what she actually did >>>> is anyone's guess. Syncing her iPhone with her Mac wouldn't change any >>>> passwords. So either she's mistaken, or she's not telling you
everything.
Do you recall telling me that the reason I couldn't start in Safe
Boot mode was because I had set a firmware password?
I have a pretty good memory but don't recall that one.
Pssst!
I was asking Jolly Roger! ;-)
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock.
That's intentional, as it prevents the machine from being useful to strangers.
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was
incorrect.
Please use the correct terminology. It's called a "firmware passcode" -
Macs do not use BIOS.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have
invalidated her p/w.i
"Linking" isn't a term that is typically used, so what she actually did
is anyone's guess. Syncing her iPhone with her Mac wouldn't change any passwords. So either she's mistaken, or she's not telling you
everything.
If Jolly Rodger mentioned to you "firmware password," that sort of
negates the comment that no one uses them.
On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/12/2021 23:31, philo wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:28 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/12/2021 20:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
That's intentional, as it prevents the machine from being useful to
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock. >>>>>
strangers.
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was >>>>>> incorrect.
Please use the correct terminology. It's called a "firmware passcode" - >>>>> Macs do not use BIOS.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have >>>>>> invalidated her p/w.i
"Linking" isn't a term that is typically used, so what she actually did >>>>> is anyone's guess. Syncing her iPhone with her Mac wouldn't change any >>>>> passwords. So either she's mistaken, or she's not telling you
everything.
Do you recall telling me that the reason I couldn't start in Safe
Boot mode was because I had set a firmware password?
I have a pretty good memory but don't recall that one.
Pssst!
I was asking Jolly Roger! ;-)
Whew, glad my memory had not failed.
If Jolly Rodger mentioned to you "firmware password," that sort of
negates the comment that no one uses them.
On 12/3/21 10:18 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
<snip>
People use it. It's a built-in security feature. I set firmware
passwords on all of my Macs (along with using FileVault full disk
encryption and enabling Find My Mac), which essentially makes them
completely useless to would-be thieves, as well as preventing anyone
from accessing the data on them. Highly recommended.
Good idea.
It's settled, she is going to take it to the Apple Store.
The machine is running 10.8
If I had a Mac here that was new enough, I could have put her drive
into it and done the recovery.
I collect vintage machines and all of my Macs are between 12 and 30
years old or so.
I even recently repaired a couple of SEs that had been up in attic for
ages.
Got to use floppy drives too!
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/12/2021 23:31, philo wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:28 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/12/2021 20:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
People use it. It's a built-in security feature. I set firmware
passwords on all of my Macs (along with using FileVault full disk
encryption and enabling Find My Mac), which essentially makes them
completely useless to would-be thieves, as well as preventing anyone
from accessing the data on them. Highly recommended.
It's settled, she is going to take it to the Apple Store.
They'll likely get her up and running again.
On 12/4/21 9:15 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-04, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/3/21 10:18 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
<snip>
People use it. It's a built-in security feature. I set firmware
passwords on all of my Macs (along with using FileVault full disk
encryption and enabling Find My Mac), which essentially makes them
completely useless to would-be thieves, as well as preventing
anyone from accessing the data on them. Highly recommended.
Good idea.
Find My is especially nice, because it lets you remotely see their
physical location, put them in Lost Mode, display a custom message,
and erase your data.
It's settled, she is going to take it to the Apple Store.
They'll likely get her up and running again.
The machine is running 10.8
Any idea what model / year Mac it is?
Model #A1398
The machine is running 10.8
Any idea what model / year Mac it is?
Model #A1398
On 2021-12-04, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/3/21 10:18 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
<snip>
People use it. It's a built-in security feature. I set firmware
passwords on all of my Macs (along with using FileVault full disk
encryption and enabling Find My Mac), which essentially makes them
completely useless to would-be thieves, as well as preventing anyone
from accessing the data on them. Highly recommended.
Good idea.
Find My is especially nice, because it lets you remotely see their
physical location, put them in Lost Mode, display a custom message, and
erase your data.
It's settled, she is going to take it to the Apple Store.
They'll likely get her up and running again.
The machine is running 10.8
Any idea what model / year Mac it is?
If I had a Mac here that was new enough, I could have put her drive
into it and done the recovery.
I collect vintage machines and all of my Macs are between 12 and 30
years old or so.
I even recently repaired a couple of SEs that had been up in attic for
ages.
Got to use floppy drives too!
I have a little collection myself, including a Lisa 2 with Macintosh XL conversion, ProFile external hard drive, and unused spare parts. I also
still have the first Mac SE/30 we bought (well, my dad did) in the 1990s which runs fine.
In article <j11evkF6o3lU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
It's settled, she is going to take it to the Apple Store.
They'll likely get her up and running again.
not without proof of ownership
she would need to find someone who used to work at the now defunct
company who might know what the password is.
if that fails, flip it for parts
On 2021-12-04, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/4/21 9:15 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-04, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/3/21 10:18 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
<snip>
People use it. It's a built-in security feature. I set firmware
passwords on all of my Macs (along with using FileVault full disk
encryption and enabling Find My Mac), which essentially makes them
completely useless to would-be thieves, as well as preventing
anyone from accessing the data on them. Highly recommended.
Good idea.
Find My is especially nice, because it lets you remotely see their
physical location, put them in Lost Mode, display a custom message,
and erase your data.
It's settled, she is going to take it to the Apple Store.
They'll likely get her up and running again.
The machine is running 10.8
Any idea what model / year Mac it is?
Model #A1398
That's one of these models:
<https://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/?search_keywords=A1398>
Plug the serial number into the search field here to narrow down the
specific model:
<https://support.apple.com/specs>
It's settled, she is going to take it to the Apple Store.
They'll likely get her up and running again.
not without proof of ownership
That depends on what's actually wrong with it. It's best to just go
there and see what they say after explaining the situation and letting
them look at it. Then she can go from there.
she would need to find someone who used to work at the now defunct
company who might know what the password is.
I mean, that's what she should be doing anyway. If it is actually
firmware protected, and someone can tell her the password, she
can remove or change it to whatever she wants and gain full access to
the machine.
if that fails, flip it for parts
She should save any data she has on that hard drive and erase it first,
but sure.
It's settled, she is going to take it to the Apple Store.
They'll likely get her up and running again.
not without proof of ownership
That depends on what's actually wrong with it. It's best to just go
there and see what they say after explaining the situation and letting
them look at it. Then she can go from there.
his description
...leaves a lot to be desired and makes assumptions.
It's best to just
bring it to Apple and let them look at it.
if that fails, flip it for parts
She should save any data she has on that hard drive and erase it first,
but sure.
a firmware password blocks target disk mode, which leaves disassembly.
Yep.
the ssd would need to be removed and installed into another similar macbook.
Or depending on the specific MacBook Pro model, a compatible external enclosure, like this one:
<https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/MAU3ENVOYPRO/#compatibility>
In article <j11ksgF7t7aU2@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
It's settled, she is going to take it to the Apple Store.
They'll likely get her up and running again.
not without proof of ownership
That depends on what's actually wrong with it. It's best to just go
there and see what they say after explaining the situation and letting
them look at it. Then she can go from there.
his description
if that fails, flip it for parts
She should save any data she has on that hard drive and erase it first,
but sure.
a firmware password blocks target disk mode, which leaves disassembly.
the ssd would need to be removed and installed into another similar
macbook.
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/12/2021 23:31, philo wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:28 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 03/12/2021 20:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
That's intentional, as it prevents the machine from being useful to >>>>>> strangers.
I can't even boot from an OSX install USB stick due to the BIOS lock. >>>>>>
She actually did have the BIOS password written down but that too was >>>>>>> incorrect.
Please use the correct terminology. It's called a "firmware passcode" - >>>>>> Macs do not use BIOS.
I still don't know why linking her phone to her MacBook would have >>>>>>> invalidated her p/w.i
"Linking" isn't a term that is typically used, so what she actually did >>>>>> is anyone's guess. Syncing her iPhone with her Mac wouldn't change any >>>>>> passwords. So either she's mistaken, or she's not telling you
everything.
Do you recall telling me that the reason I couldn't start in Safe
Boot mode was because I had set a firmware password?
I have a pretty good memory but don't recall that one.
Pssst!
I was asking Jolly Roger! ;-)
Whew, glad my memory had not failed.
Not sure why David is butting in, as his issue has nothing to do with
yours.
On 04/12/2021 04:18, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, David Brooks wrote:
O\\\\\
I have a pretty good memory but don't recall that one.
Pssst!
I was asking Jolly Roger! ;-)
Whew, glad my memory had not failed.
Not sure why David is butting in, as his issue has nothing to do with
yours.
Apologies, JR. Philo is an on-line chum outwith Usenet.
I asked you because of an issue which cropped up recently on the ASC
forums when someone couldn't start up their Mac in Safe Boot mode.
I wondered if you could confirm that I'd remembered matters correctly,
that's all. It wasn't worthy of starting a new thread.
On 12/5/21 4:53 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 04/12/2021 04:18, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, David Brooks wrote:
O\\\\\
<snip>
I have a pretty good memory but don't recall that one.
Pssst!
I was asking Jolly Roger! ;-)
Whew, glad my memory had not failed.
Not sure why David is butting in, as his issue has nothing to do with
yours.
Apologies, JR. Philo is an on-line chum outwith Usenet.
I asked you because of an issue which cropped up recently on the ASC
forums when someone couldn't start up their Mac in Safe Boot mode.
I wondered if you could confirm that I'd remembered matters correctly,
that's all. It wasn't worthy of starting a new thread.
Dave, it's always nice talking to you and on Usenet there is no such
thing as butting in...it's open to all.
On 04/12/2021 04:18, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, David Brooks wrote:Not sure why David is butting in, as his issue has nothing to do with
On 12/3/21 5:28 PM, David Brooks wrote:
Do you recall telling me that the reason I couldn't start in Safe
Boot mode was because I had set a firmware password?
yours.
Apologies, JR. Philo is an on-line chum outwith Usenet.
I asked you because of an issue which cropped up recently on the ASC
forums when someone couldn't start up their Mac in Safe Boot mode.
I wondered if you could confirm that I'd remembered matters correctly,
that's all. It wasn't worthy of starting a new thread.
On 2021-12-05, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 04/12/2021 04:18, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, David Brooks wrote:Not sure why David is butting in, as his issue has nothing to do with
On 12/3/21 5:28 PM, David Brooks wrote:
Do you recall telling me that the reason I couldn't start in Safe >>>>>>> Boot mode was because I had set a firmware password?
yours.
Apologies, JR. Philo is an on-line chum outwith Usenet.
I asked you because of an issue which cropped up recently on the ASC
forums when someone couldn't start up their Mac in Safe Boot mode.
I wondered if you could confirm that I'd remembered matters correctly,
that's all. It wasn't worthy of starting a new thread.
Yep, setting a firmware password prevents Safe Boot as well.
Good news.
Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the type.
I found an adaptor.
The machine has an oddball ssd.
It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
On 2021-12-05, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 04/12/2021 04:18, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, David Brooks wrote:Not sure why David is butting in, as his issue has nothing to do with
On 12/3/21 5:28 PM, David Brooks wrote:
Do you recall telling me that the reason I couldn't start in Safe >>>>>>> Boot mode was because I had set a firmware password?
yours.
Apologies, JR. Philo is an on-line chum outwith Usenet.
I asked you because of an issue which cropped up recently on the ASC
forums when someone couldn't start up their Mac in Safe Boot mode.
I wondered if you could confirm that I'd remembered matters correctly,
that's all. It wasn't worthy of starting a new thread.
Yep, setting a firmware password prevents Safe Boot as well.
My post has been removed
- the 'advisers' there disagreed with our (your
and my!) understanding that a firmware password prevents booting into
Safe Boot mode.
The 'moderators' are manipulating questions and answers on the ASC forums.
In article <solgat$2om$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
My post has been removed
because you are a troll.
- the 'advisers' there disagreed with our (your
and my!) understanding that a firmware password prevents booting into
Safe Boot mode.
the thread you linked has nothing to do with firmware passwords.
you probably babbled about malware again.
In article <solkec$1ln$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
The 'moderators' are manipulating questions and answers on the ASC forums.
nope. what they're doing is banning dumbfuck trolls, namely you, who is repeatedly banned each time you try to sign up and use a different
name.
In article <solkec$1ln$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
The 'moderators' are manipulating questions and answers on the ASC forums.
nope. what they're doing is banning dumbfuck trolls, namely you, who is repeatedly banned each time you try to sign up and use a different
name.
Good news.
Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the
type. I found an adaptor.
The machine has an oddball ssd.
It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
On 2021-12-06, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
Good news.
Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the
type. I found an adaptor.
Which "adapter", specifically?
The machine has an oddball ssd.
It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
Okay, but that's not going to allow you to remove the firmware passcode.
And if the drive is encrypted with FileVault, you won't be able to
access anything on it either.
So what are you hoping to do with it once you have it in an external enclosure?
//For how long have you been aware that people may 'log on' to the ASC
forums without using their Apple ID? - i.e. the one showing on
their iPhone, iPad and Apple computer?//
On 06/12/2021 18:25, nospam wrote:
In article<solkec$1ln$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
The 'moderators' are manipulating questions and answers on the ASC forums.
nope. what they're doing is banning dumbfuck trolls, namely you, who is repeatedly banned each time you try to sign up and use a different
name.
The question you failed to answer:-
//For how long have you been aware that people may 'log on' to the ASC
forums without using their correct Apple ID?
- i.e. the one showing on
their iPhone, iPad and Apple computer?//
You’re an idiot. And a vile stalker, troll, and serial homosexual sexual harasser.
On 06/12/2021 00:11, philo wrote:
On 12/5/21 4:53 PM, David Brooks wrote:
On 04/12/2021 04:18, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-03, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/3/21 5:35 PM, David Brooks wrote:
O\\\\\
<snip>
I have a pretty good memory but don't recall that one.
Pssst!
I was asking Jolly Roger! ;-)
Whew, glad my memory had not failed.
Not sure why David is butting in, as his issue has nothing to do with
yours.
Apologies, JR. Philo is an on-line chum outwith Usenet.
I asked you because of an issue which cropped up recently on the ASC
forums when someone couldn't start up their Mac in Safe Boot mode.
I wondered if you could confirm that I'd remembered matters
correctly, that's all. It wasn't worthy of starting a new thread.
Dave, it's always nice talking to you and on Usenet there is no such
thing as butting in...it's open to all.
Thanks, Philo - you are one of the nicest people I have ever met on the Internet! :-D
On 06/12/2021 21:06, Wolffan *IS A LIAR*
You’re an idiot. And a vile stalker, troll, and serial homosexual sexual harasser.
Totally untrue
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
On 2021-12-07, Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
It's nothing but entertaining when resident trolls claim they know who
you are and immediately prove themselves totally clueless by getting
*basic* details *completely* wrong. To wit: Arlen recently claimed he
knew that I tried and failed to get a GED - something that would elicit hysterical laughter from every single person who actually knows me.
Welcome to the club. : )
On 2021-12-07, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
It's nothing but entertaining when resident trolls claim they know who
you are and immediately prove themselves totally clueless by getting
*basic* details *completely* wrong. To wit: Arlen recently claimed he
knew that I tried and failed to get a GED - something that would elicit hysterical laughter from every single person who actually knows me.
Welcome to the club. : )
On Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:37:21 -0500, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com>
wrote:
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 06/12/2021 21:06, Wolffan wrote:
You’re an idiot. And a vile stalker, troll, and serial homosexual sexual
harasser.
Totally untrue
the truth burns you, vile one.
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
He wasn't referring to you, he already knows what you do.
He was trying to ID which one of his "friends" told you about
his dismissal from the Royal Navy for "behavior unbecoming to an
officer".
HTH
<https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php>
[]'s
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 06/12/2021 21:06, Wolffan wrote:
You’re an idiot. And a vile stalker, troll, and serial homosexual sexual >> > harasser.
Totally untrue
the truth burns you, vile one.
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
On 2021 Dec 07, Shadow wrote
(in article<i6euqghvbiqcq961p3mc3hjeu5j8433c9l@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:37:21 -0500, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com>
wrote:
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 06/12/2021 21:06, Wolffan wrote:
You’re an idiot. And a vile stalker, troll, and serial homosexual sexual
harasser.
Totally untrue
the truth burns you, vile one.
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
He wasn't referring to you, he already knows what you do.
He was trying to ID which one of his "friends" told you about
his dismissal from the Royal Navy for "behavior unbecoming to an
officer".
HTH
There are now 11 sources. Only an idiot would consider any of them to be ‘factory workers’. Of course, the vile one _is_ an idiot.
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
On 2021-12-06, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
Good news.
Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the
type. I found an adaptor.
Which "adapter", specifically?
The machine has an oddball ssd.
It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
Okay, but that's not going to allow you to remove the firmware passcode.
And if the drive is encrypted with FileVault, you won't be able to
access anything on it either.
So what are you hoping to do with it once you have it in an external enclosure?
On 12/6/21 12:38 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-06, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
Good news.
Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the
type. I found an adaptor.
Which "adapter", specifically?
The machine has an oddball ssd.
It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
Okay, but that's not going to allow you to remove the firmware passcode.
And if the drive is encrypted with FileVault, you won't be able to
access anything on it either.
So what are you hoping to do with it once you have it in an external enclosure?
Already answered
On 12/6/21 12:38 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-06, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
Good news.
Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the
type. I found an adaptor.
Which "adapter", specifically?
The machine has an oddball ssd.
It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
Okay, but that's not going to allow you to remove the firmware passcode.
And if the drive is encrypted with FileVault, you won't be able to
access anything on it either.
So what are you hoping to do with it once you have it in an external
enclosure?
Already answered
As you are well aware, JR, I'm not a "techie"
but do realise that there
must be SOMEWHERE within an Apple computer where, for example, the
Serial Number is stored. If the hard drive is removed and replaced,
Apple can still identify the hardware.
So, in what type of electronic component is the information held?
On 2021-12-07, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/6/21 12:38 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-06, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
Good news.
Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the
type. I found an adaptor.
Which "adapter", specifically?
The machine has an oddball ssd.
It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
Okay, but that's not going to allow you to remove the firmware passcode. >>>
And if the drive is encrypted with FileVault, you won't be able to
access anything on it either.
So what are you hoping to do with it once you have it in an external
enclosure?
Already answered
You haven't told anyone which adapter you are talking about, as far as I
can tell.
I do recall that you mentioned removing the .AppleSetupDone file. But
that's not going to allow you to start up the Mac, since firmware
protection is enabled.
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 12:59:51 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
Hard to believe you're still on active duty after all these years. I
guess the stories of insurance sales scams and financial management
scams, not to mention the stories of boating on sewage canals, were all
a ruse to hide the fact that you're still a member of the RN.
Or, it could be that you're simply being dishonest again.
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
Oh, it's out. That cake is fully baked.
On 07/12/2021 15:48, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 12:59:51 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
Hard to believe you're still on active duty after all these years. I
guess the stories of insurance sales scams and financial management
scams, not to mention the stories of boating on sewage canals, were all
a ruse to hide the fact that you're still a member of the RN.
Or, it could be that you're simply being dishonest again.
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
Oh, it's out. That cake is fully baked.
I didn't realise that English isn't your first language.
Sorry about that.
As you are well aware, JR, I'm not a "techie"
understatement of the millennium.
Non-techies are permitted to discuss posts in Usenet groups.
but do realise that there
must be SOMEWHERE within an Apple computer where, for example, the
Serial Number is stored. If the hard drive is removed and replaced,
Apple can still identify the hardware.
obviously.
Does that situation pertain in the hardware used to run Microsoft and
Linux operating systems? I think not, so that makes Apple hardware
'special'!
So, in what type of electronic component is the information held?
a chip.
Philo could probably identify that chip and remove it.
Please provide further information on where this 'chip' may be found.
Or are you simply guessing (again!)?
In article <sooe1u$buk$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
As you are well aware, JR, I'm not a "techie"
understatement of the millennium.
but do realise that there
must be SOMEWHERE within an Apple computer where, for example, the
Serial Number is stored. If the hard drive is removed and replaced,
Apple can still identify the hardware.
obviously.
So, in what type of electronic component is the information held?
a chip.
On 07/12/2021 15:48, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 12:59:51 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
Hard to believe you're still on active duty after all these years. I
guess the stories of insurance sales scams and financial management
scams, not to mention the stories of boating on sewage canals, were all
a ruse to hide the fact that you're still a member of the RN.
Or, it could be that you're simply being dishonest again.
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
Oh, it's out. That cake is fully baked.
I didn't realise that English isn't your first language.
Sorry about that.
On 07/12/2021 10:54, Wolffan wrote:
On 2021 Dec 07, Shadow wrote
(in article<i6euqghvbiqcq961p3mc3hjeu5j8433c9l@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:37:21 -0500, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com>
wrote:
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 06/12/2021 21:06, Wolffan wrote:
You’re an idiot. And a vile stalker, troll, and serial homosexual sexual
harasser.
Totally untrue
the truth burns you, vile one.
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
He wasn't referring to you, he already knows what you do.
He was trying to ID which one of his "friends" told you about
his dismissal from the Royal Navy for "behavior unbecoming to an officer".
HTH
There are now 11 sources. Only an idiot would consider any of them to be ‘factory workers’. Of course, the vile one _is_ an idiot.
You are once more responding to a *LIAR*. Shadow is not significunt.:-P
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
On 2021 Dec 07, David Brooks wrote
(in article<sonls9$jum$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 07/12/2021 10:54, Wolffan wrote:
On 2021 Dec 07, Shadow wrote
(in article<i6euqghvbiqcq961p3mc3hjeu5j8433c9l@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:37:21 -0500, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com>
wrote:
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 06/12/2021 21:06, Wolffan wrote:
You’re an idiot. And a vile stalker, troll, and serial homosexual >>>>>>> sexual
harasser.
Totally untrue
the truth burns you, vile one.
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
He wasn't referring to you, he already knows what you do.
He was trying to ID which one of his "friends" told you about
his dismissal from the Royal Navy for "behavior unbecoming to an
officer".
HTH
There are now 11 sources. Only an idiot would consider any of them to be >>> ‘factory workers’. Of course, the vile one _is_ an idiot.
You are once more responding to a *LIAR*. Shadow is not significunt.:-P
you keep saying that he’s lying. you keep never, ever, backing that up. Gee. I wonder why... Actually, I _know_ damn well why you can never point to a specofic lie and show exactly why it’s untrue.
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
you were given the opportunity to resign, for the good of the service, rather than to be court-martialed and thereby reveal all of the RN’s dirty linen.
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
the truth has come out. and you have been outed, vile one.
On 2021-12-07, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 07/12/2021 15:48, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 12:59:51 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
Hard to believe you're still on active duty after all these years. I
guess the stories of insurance sales scams and financial management
scams, not to mention the stories of boating on sewage canals, were all
a ruse to hide the fact that you're still a member of the RN.
Or, it could be that you're simply being dishonest again.
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
Oh, it's out. That cake is fully baked.
I didn't realise that English isn't your first language.
Sorry about that.
What an odd thing to say given that you've been asking the same
questions over and over, and getting the responses in English, for
years.
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
David*GOOD GUY*!
On 07/12/2021 22:09, Wolffan wrote:
On 2021 Dec 07, David Brooks wrote
(in article<sonls9$jum$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 07/12/2021 10:54, Wolffan wrote:
On 2021 Dec 07, Shadow wrote
(in article<i6euqghvbiqcq961p3mc3hjeu5j8433c9l@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:37:21 -0500, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 06/12/2021 21:06, Wolffan wrote:
You’re an idiot. And a vile stalker, troll, and serial homosexual
sexual
harasser.
Totally untrue
the truth burns you, vile one.
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
He wasn't referring to you, he already knows what you do.
He was trying to ID which one of his "friends" told you about
his dismissal from the Royal Navy for "behavior unbecoming to an officer".
HTH
There are now 11 sources. Only an idiot would consider any of them to be
‘factory workers’. Of course, the vile one _is_ an idiot.
You are once more responding to a *LIAR*. Shadow is not significunt.:-P
you keep saying that he’s lying. you keep never, ever, backing that up. Gee. I wonder why... Actually, I _know_ damn well why you can never point to
a specofic lie and show exactly why it’s untrue.
He lies with every breath.
I cannot comprehend why you believe a word he
says. *HE* never provides any evidence, haven't you noticed that yet, Dumbo?
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
you were given the opportunity to resign, for the good of the service, rather
than to be court-martialed and thereby reveal all of the RN’s dirty linen.
THAT is a *LIE* - Total Bollocks!
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
the truth has come out. and you have been outed, vile one.
You've swallowed lies,
hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of
yourself.
On 07/12/2021 22:09, Wolffan wrote:
On 2021 Dec 07, David Brooks wrote
(in article<sonls9$jum$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 07/12/2021 10:54, Wolffan wrote:
On 2021 Dec 07, Shadow wrote
(in article<i6euqghvbiqcq961p3mc3hjeu5j8433c9l@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:37:21 -0500, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com>
wrote:
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
On 06/12/2021 21:06, Wolffan wrote:
You’re an idiot. And a vile stalker, troll, and serial homosexual >>>>>>>> sexual
harasser.
Totally untrue
the truth burns you, vile one.
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
He wasn't referring to you, he already knows what you do.
He was trying to ID which one of his "friends" told you about
his dismissal from the Royal Navy for "behavior unbecoming to an
officer".
HTH
There are now 11 sources. Only an idiot would consider any of them to be >>>> ‘factory workers’. Of course, the vile one _is_ an idiot.
You are once more responding to a *LIAR*. Shadow is not significunt.:-P
you keep saying that he’s lying. you keep never, ever, backing that up.
Gee. I wonder why... Actually, I _know_ damn well why you can never point to >> a specofic lie and show exactly why it’s untrue.
He lies with every breath. I cannot comprehend why you believe a word he says. *HE* never provides any evidence, haven't you noticed that yet, Dumbo?
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
you were given the opportunity to resign, for the good of the service, rather
than to be court-martialed and thereby reveal all of the RN’s dirty linen.
THAT is a *LIE* - Total Bollocks!
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
the truth has come out. and you have been outed, vile one.
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
--
David
*GOOD GUY*!
In case I end up making things worse,
I will simply rename rather than delete.
I already stated I am getting a 7x17 to ssd adaptor.
As to the firmware, AFAIK, that's on the T2 chip, not the ssd.
One tutorial I saw said the T2 chip could be replaced in order to get by a lost passcode.
They suggested taking one out of a scrap MacBook.
Even though for my job, I did repair control boards...I had the equipment to do so.
Now that I'm retired, I do not have the complete workstation that I'd need.
On 07/12/2021 15:48, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 12:59:51 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
Hard to believe you're still on active duty after all these years. I
guess the stories of insurance sales scams and financial management
scams, not to mention the stories of boating on sewage canals, were all
a ruse to hide the fact that you're still a member of the RN.
Or, it could be that you're simply being dishonest again.
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
Oh, it's out. That cake is fully baked.
I didn't realise that English isn't your first language.
Sorry about that.
On 07/12/2021 20:55, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-07, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 07/12/2021 15:48, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 12:59:51 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
I was *NOT* dismissed from the Royal Navy - for *ANY* reason.
Hard to believe you're still on active duty after all these years. I
guess the stories of insurance sales scams and financial management
scams, not to mention the stories of boating on sewage canals, were all >>>> a ruse to hide the fact that you're still a member of the RN.
Or, it could be that you're simply being dishonest again.
The truth WILL out - always. :-D
Oh, it's out. That cake is fully baked.
I didn't realise that English isn't your first language.
Sorry about that.
What an odd thing to say given that you've been asking the same
questions over and over, and getting the responses in English, for
years.
The Kelly Phillips character has no understanding of the word "dismissed".
In case I end up making things worse, I will simply rename rather than delete.
I already stated I am getting a 7x17 to ssd adaptor.
As to the firmware, AFAIK, that's on the T2 chip, not the ssd.
One tutorial I saw said the T2 chip could be replaced in order to get by
a lost passcode.
They suggested taking one out of a scrap MacBook.
I’m not the vile serial homosexual sexual harasser.
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
David*GOOD GUY*!
Is snit sharing his jenkem recipe with you? You're just as
dillusonal as he is.
On 08/12/2021 00:59, Wolffan - A known Usenet *LIAR* claimed
I’m not the vile serial homosexual sexual harasser.
Nor me.
*YOU* are a *FAILURE*!
On 08/12/2021 00:31, philo wrote:
In case I end up making things worse, I will simply rename rather than
delete.
I already stated I am getting a 7x17 to ssd adaptor.
As to the firmware, AFAIK, that's on the T2 chip, not the ssd.
One tutorial I saw said the T2 chip could be replaced in order to get
by a lost passcode.
They suggested taking one out of a scrap MacBook.
A little thought should suggest that that will not work. If it *did*
work, it would make the filevault encryption worthless.
So the point I'm trying to make is that the T2 chip contains the
encryption keys needed to decrypt the SSD. A different T2 will have
different encryption keys.
If you get the SSD out it'll be encrypted. Without the key, you don't
get to see the filesystems on *any* kind of machine.
Just looked at some of the posts by Gremlin and Carroll... they are addicted to the attention and cannot help themselves from begging even when I have mostly ignored them for quite sometime.
On 08/12/2021 00:31, philo wrote:
In case I end up making things worse, I will simply rename rather than
delete.
I already stated I am getting a 7x17 to ssd adaptor.
As to the firmware, AFAIK, that's on the T2 chip, not the ssd.
One tutorial I saw said the T2 chip could be replaced in order to get
by a lost passcode.
They suggested taking one out of a scrap MacBook.
A little thought should suggest that that will not work. If it *did*
work, it would make the filevault encryption worthless.
So the point I'm trying to make is that the T2 chip contains the
encryption keys needed to decrypt the SSD. A different T2 will have
different encryption keys.
If you get the SSD out it'll be encrypted. Without the key, you don't
get to see the filesystems on *any* kind of machine.
Chris
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record.
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
YOU are the one full of shit!
Dustin Cook cannot spell either. You have traits in common.
Nearly a dozen people tell the same stories, same names, same dates, same times. Either this is a coordinated attempt to fit you with a jacket (in which case it?s working...) or it?s the truth (which is what it seems to be).
One tutorial I saw said the T2 chip could be replaced in order to get
by a lost passcode.
They suggested taking one out of a scrap MacBook.
A little thought should suggest that that will not work. If it *did*
work, it would make the filevault encryption worthless.
So the point I'm trying to make is that the T2 chip contains the
encryption keys needed to decrypt the SSD. A different T2 will have different encryption keys.
If you get the SSD out it'll be encrypted. Without the key, you don't
get to see the filesystems on *any* kind of machine.
I never stated that File Vault was used to encrypt the drive...
File
Vault and firmware password are two separate procedures.
I have cut and pasted this directly from the Apple help page:
Your Mac asks for the firmware password only when attempting to start up
from a storage device other than the one selected in Startup Disk preferences, or when starting up from macOS Recovery. Enter the firmware password when you see the lock and password field:
Startup screen showing lock icon and password field.
That said, the owner informed me that all her data are backed up and I
am free to experiment at will.
She does not want to spend money on a ten year old computer that she got
free to take it to the Apple store.
Even if I do reset her operating system password,
she is intent on
getting a new computer anyway.
If I succeed, all I will have done is buy her a little time.
If I don't succeed, the couple bucks I spent on the adapter will allow
me to at least format the drive and use it elsewhere.
So the point I'm trying to make is that the T2 chip contains the
encryption keys needed to decrypt the SSD. A different T2 will have
different encryption keys.
If you get the SSD out it'll be encrypted. Without the key, you don't
get to see the filesystems on *any* kind of machine.
I never stated that File Vault was used to encrypt the drive...File
Vault and firmware password are two separate procedures.
Filevault encryption is the default on Macs with T2 chips and is an
obvious thing for a company's security policy to have set up anyway. So
I think you can reasonably safely assume it is encrypted.
If I don't succeed, the couple bucks I spent on the adapter will allow
me to at least format the drive and use it elsewhere.
Good luck.
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of
yourself.
He likely does so merely for the attention. Just looked at some of the posts by Gremlin and Carroll...
On 12/8/21 1:08 AM, Chris Ridd wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:31, philo wrote:
In case I end up making things worse, I will simply rename rather
than delete.
I already stated I am getting a 7x17 to ssd adaptor.
As to the firmware, AFAIK, that's on the T2 chip, not the ssd.
One tutorial I saw said the T2 chip could be replaced in order to get
by a lost passcode.
They suggested taking one out of a scrap MacBook.
A little thought should suggest that that will not work. If it *did*
work, it would make the filevault encryption worthless.
So the point I'm trying to make is that the T2 chip contains the
encryption keys needed to decrypt the SSD. A different T2 will have
different encryption keys.
If you get the SSD out it'll be encrypted. Without the key, you don't
get to see the filesystems on *any* kind of machine.
Chris
I never stated that File Vault was used to encrypt the drive...File
Vault and firmware password are two separate procedures.
If I don't succeed, the couple bucks I spent on the adapter will allow
me to at least format the drive and use it elsewhere.
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
David*GOOD GUY*!
Is snit sharing his jenkem recipe with you? You're just as
dillusonal as he is.
YOU are the one full of shit!
Dustin Cook cannot spell either. You have traits in common.
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
now you have a special page.
This page was put up at BD's request, rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":
<https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php>
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported accusations about him.
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
now you have a special page.
This page was put up at BD's request, rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":
<https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php>
On 08/12/2021 14:03, philo wrote:
On 12/8/21 1:08 AM, Chris Ridd wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:31, philo wrote:
In case I end up making things worse, I will simply rename rather
than delete.
I already stated I am getting a 7x17 to ssd adaptor.
As to the firmware, AFAIK, that's on the T2 chip, not the ssd.
One tutorial I saw said the T2 chip could be replaced in order to
get by a lost passcode.
They suggested taking one out of a scrap MacBook.
A little thought should suggest that that will not work. If it *did*
work, it would make the filevault encryption worthless.
So the point I'm trying to make is that the T2 chip contains the
encryption keys needed to decrypt the SSD. A different T2 will have
different encryption keys.
If you get the SSD out it'll be encrypted. Without the key, you don't
get to see the filesystems on *any* kind of machine.
Chris
I never stated that File Vault was used to encrypt the drive...File
Vault and firmware password are two separate procedures.
Filevault encryption is the default on Macs with T2 chips and is an
obvious thing for a company's security policy to have set up anyway. So
I think you can reasonably safely assume it is encrypted.
If I don't succeed, the couple bucks I spent on the adapter will allow
me to at least format the drive and use it elsewhere.
Good luck.
Chris
I just turned the machine back on to double check.
File Vault is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY turned ***off***
I think most people here genuinely have tried to help me
That NO-SPAM idiot however is staying in my killfile.
Good news. A few here ...without even seeing the machine...made the *assumption* that the drive is encrypted.
The first thing I did was
check that but what the heck... I double checked just now and File Vault
is set to NOT encrypted.
It will be a few more days before the adapter gets here at which point I should be able to reset the operating system password from Linux.
A few here also made the assumption that I am trying to reset the
firmware password. NO, I am not.
I am trying to reset the operating system password or simply setup a new administrative account.
The No-SPAM moron is in my killfile so I will not see any of his idiot
posts. I see a few here trying to argue with him. No use in trying to
reason with someone that far mentally ill.
Good news. A few here ...without even seeing the machine...made the *assumption* that the drive is encrypted. The first thing I did was
check that but what the heck... I double checked just now and File Vault
is set to NOT encrypted.
It will be a few more days before the adapter gets here at which point I should be able to reset the operating system password from Linux.
On 12/8/21 10:50 AM, Chris Ridd wrote:
On 08/12/2021 14:03, philo wrote:
On 12/8/21 1:08 AM, Chris Ridd wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:31, philo wrote:
In case I end up making things worse, I will simply rename rather
than delete.
I already stated I am getting a 7x17 to ssd adaptor.
As to the firmware, AFAIK, that's on the T2 chip, not the ssd.
One tutorial I saw said the T2 chip could be replaced in order to
get by a lost passcode.
They suggested taking one out of a scrap MacBook.
A little thought should suggest that that will not work. If it *did*
work, it would make the filevault encryption worthless.
So the point I'm trying to make is that the T2 chip contains the
encryption keys needed to decrypt the SSD. A different T2 will have
different encryption keys.
If you get the SSD out it'll be encrypted. Without the key, you
don't get to see the filesystems on *any* kind of machine.
Chris
I never stated that File Vault was used to encrypt the drive...File
Vault and firmware password are two separate procedures.
Filevault encryption is the default on Macs with T2 chips and is an
obvious thing for a company's security policy to have set up anyway.
So I think you can reasonably safely assume it is encrypted.
If I don't succeed, the couple bucks I spent on the adapter will
allow me to at least format the drive and use it elsewhere.
Good luck.
Chris
I just turned the machine back on to double check.
File Vault is ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY turned ***off***
I think most people here genuinely have tried to help me
That NO-SPAM idiot however is staying in my killfile.
On 07/12/2021 18:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-07, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/6/21 12:38 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-06, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
Good news.
Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the >>>>> type. I found an adaptor.
Which "adapter", specifically?
The machine has an oddball ssd.
It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
Okay, but that's not going to allow you to remove the firmware
passcode.
And if the drive is encrypted with FileVault, you won't be able to
access anything on it either.
So what are you hoping to do with it once you have it in an external
enclosure?
Already answered
You haven't told anyone which adapter you are talking about, as far as I
can tell.
I do recall that you mentioned removing the .AppleSetupDone file. But
that's not going to allow you to start up the Mac, since firmware
protection is enabled.
As you are well aware, JR, I'm not a "techie" but do realise that there
must be SOMEWHERE within an Apple computer where, for example, the
Serial Number is stored. If the hard drive is removed and replaced,
Apple can still identify the hardware.
So, in what type of electronic component is the information held?
Problem is, apple does not tell what kind of sensors is present
On 07/12/2021 03:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-07, Wolffan<akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
On 2021 Dec 06, David Brooks wrote
(in article<som36h$6fb$2@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>):
- a load of bollocks from an insignificant factory worker.
which ‘factory’ would I be a worker at?
It's nothing but entertaining when resident trolls claim they know who
you are and immediately prove themselves totally clueless by getting *basic* details *completely* wrong. To wit: Arlen recently claimed he
knew that I tried and failed to get a GED - something that would elicit hysterical laughter from every single person who actually knows me.
Welcome to the club. : )
Wolffan has *LIED* - time and time again.
I am simply straight-forward and honest.
Are *YOU* a 'good guy' like me, JR?
If so, please demonstrate that, like I did, here:-
https://community.dynamics.com/members/bdontj
The LinkedIn link works and the information on LI is 100% correct.
A friend brought over her Macbook which she is locked out of. She claims
she never changed her password and that it happened after she linked it
to her phone.
All she can do is log-in as guest.
I found that the machine has a BIOS lock so I cannot perform any of the normal reset procedures.
Before I have her take it to the Apple store...anything else I should try?
A friend brought over her Macbook which she is locked out of. She claims
she never changed her password and that it happened after she linked it
to her phone.
All she can do is log-in as guest.
I found that the machine has a BIOS lock so I cannot perform any of the normal reset procedures.
Before I have her take it to the Apple store...anything else I should try?
Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.
That was exactly the challenge I needed .
To JR:
Funniest part was that you were clueless as to how to fix it so you
assumed I was too.
LOL
As it turned out, my biggest mistake was to try to do this from Linux
when I have three Macs (though older) suitable for the job.
Anyway...the woman is a great artist so I will probably take a painting
as pay.
Not all that bad.
On 2021-12-10, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.
Actually, "most" here said you can't do *specific* things, and you have
not been able to do those specific things. For instance, you haven't
been able to edit a FileVault protected volume. Nor have you been able
to change or remove a Mac firmware password. : )
You may think you can revise history and get away with it, but you can't change the Usenet record after the fact. Still, if dreaming up things
makes you *feel* better, then by all means, go for it. It won't change reality though. All you are doing is making yourself look all the more foolish by lying about it.
That was exactly the challenge I needed .
"Super philo rises to the challenge in the face of adversity" may make
for an interesting fantasy, but it's still just a fantasy in your own
mind. We get it: you are your own greatest hero. Revel in it if you
must.
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges.
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote <87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported accusations about him. If you can show otherwise I would be curious to see it.
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported >> accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Am 07.12.21 um 20:52 schrieb David Brooks:
On 07/12/2021 18:41, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-07, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
On 12/6/21 12:38 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-06, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
Good news.
Once I got the drive out , I got the model number and finally got the >>>>>> type. I found an adaptor.
Which "adapter", specifically?
The machine has an oddball ssd.
It's a 7 x 17 which AFAIK is made for a few specific Mac laptops.
The adapter will take the drive to a standard SATA .
Okay, but that's not going to allow you to remove the firmware
passcode.
And if the drive is encrypted with FileVault, you won't be able to
access anything on it either.
So what are you hoping to do with it once you have it in an external >>>>> enclosure?
Already answered
You haven't told anyone which adapter you are talking about, as far as I >>> can tell.
I do recall that you mentioned removing the .AppleSetupDone file. But
that's not going to allow you to start up the Mac, since firmware
protection is enabled.
As you are well aware, JR, I'm not a "techie" but do realise that there
must be SOMEWHERE within an Apple computer where, for example, the
Serial Number is stored. If the hard drive is removed and replaced,
Apple can still identify the hardware.
So, in what type of electronic component is the information held?
Some type of SMC-Bus chip. You can detect lots of those (mainly temp
sensors, fan-rpm sensors etc) with lm_sensors from linux property.
Problem is, apple does not tell what kind of sensors is present
additionally. Basically all mainbaords, apple or otherwise, have those sensors and also id info, stacked away in chips connected to the
SMC-bus, which is just some type of I2C-bus
On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported >>> accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Which ones?
Be specific.
*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
On 11/12/2021 03:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-10, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.
Actually, "most" here said you can't do *specific* things, and you have
not been able to do those specific things. For instance, you haven't
been able to edit a FileVault protected volume. Nor have you been able
to change or remove a Mac firmware password. : )
You may think you can revise history and get away with it, but you can't
change the Usenet record after the fact. Still, if dreaming up things
makes you *feel* better, then by all means, go for it. It won't change
reality though. All you are doing is making yourself look all the more
foolish by lying about it.
That was exactly the challenge I needed .
"Super philo rises to the challenge in the face of adversity" may make
for an interesting fantasy, but it's still just a fantasy in your own
mind. We get it: you are your own greatest hero. Revel in it if you
must.
The Art of War, written by Sun Tzu, he said, “If you know your enemy and you know yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.
On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported >>> accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Which ones?
Be specific.
*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
On 08/12/2021 20:25, Snit wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and
now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported >> accusations about him. If you can show otherwise I would be curious to see it.
Me too!
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> >>>>> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of >>>>>>>> yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are >>>>>>> every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported >>>> accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Which ones?
Be specific.
*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
Carroll’s logic is still flawed. Say there are 100 accusations. Say you admitted to, or there was strong support for, 10 of them.
The page would still be filled with unsupported accusations.
Snit has brought this to us :
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> >>>>>> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of >>>>>>>>> yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are >>>>>>>> every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Which ones?
Be specific.
*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
Carroll’s logic is still flawed. Say there are 100 accusations. Say you
admitted to, or there was strong support for, 10 of them.
The page would still be filled with unsupported accusations.
Then they would be decimated.
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:16:16 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 20:25, Snit wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are
every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported >>> accusations about him. If you can show otherwise I would be curious to see it.
Me too!
I didn't say anything about "a page with unsupported accusations". I was referring to your special page at <https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php>
You knew that, of course.
If there's another page somewhere that contains unsupported accusations,
I'm not aware of it. Got a link?
On 2021-12-11, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 11/12/2021 03:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-10, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.
Actually, "most" here said you can't do *specific* things, and you have
not been able to do those specific things. For instance, you haven't
been able to edit a FileVault protected volume. Nor have you been able
to change or remove a Mac firmware password. : )
You may think you can revise history and get away with it, but you can't >>> change the Usenet record after the fact. Still, if dreaming up things
makes you *feel* better, then by all means, go for it. It won't change
reality though. All you are doing is making yourself look all the more
foolish by lying about it.
That was exactly the challenge I needed .
"Super philo rises to the challenge in the face of adversity" may make
for an interesting fantasy, but it's still just a fantasy in your own
mind. We get it: you are your own greatest hero. Revel in it if you
must.
The Art of War, written by Sun Tzu, he said, “If you know your enemy and >> you know yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles.
There hasn't been any battle here - only little philo bleating like a
proud sheep at having accomplished something relatively trivial.
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:24:30 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> >>>>> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are >>>>>>> every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported >>>> accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Which ones?
Be specific.
*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
Why, of course you do, David. Because you say so.
If anyone around here had access to your service records, I'm sure the
story would be very different, but you're safe, for now. You can claim whatever you want.
That?s the page with unsupported accusations. Show where David asked to have such inappropriate behavior targeted at him.
Hint: he never did
you lied.
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity.
On 11/12/2021 18:07, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-11, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 11/12/2021 03:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-10, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.
Actually, "most" here said you can't do *specific* things, and you
have not been able to do those specific things. For instance, you
haven't been able to edit a FileVault protected volume. Nor have
you been able to change or remove a Mac firmware password. : )
You may think you can revise history and get away with it, but you
can't change the Usenet record after the fact. Still, if dreaming
up things makes you *feel* better, then by all means, go for it. It
won't change reality though. All you are doing is making yourself
look all the more foolish by lying about it.
That was exactly the challenge I needed .
"Super philo rises to the challenge in the face of adversity" may
make for an interesting fantasy, but it's still just a fantasy in
your own mind. We get it: you are your own greatest hero. Revel in
it if you must.
The Art of War, written by Sun Tzu, he said, “If you know your enemy
and you know yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred
battles.
There hasn't been any battle here - only little philo bleating like a
proud sheep at having accomplished something relatively trivial.
I'm confident that Philo has forgotten more about computing that you
have ever learned.
Your manners are atrocious. Be kind, eh?
Then they would be decimated.
On 11/12/2021 18:08, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:24:30 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> >>>>>> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are >>>>>>>> every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Which ones?
Be specific.
*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
Why, of course you do, David. Because you say so.
It's simply the truth.
If anyone around here had access to your service records, I'm sure the
story would be very different, but you're safe, for now. You can claim
whatever you want.
The 'story' would forever be the same. Others are lying and will NEVER
find or show any evidence of misconduct on my part.
Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
That?s the page with unsupported accusations. Show where David asked to have such inappropriate behavior targeted at him.
If your reading comprehension wasn't stuck at elementary school
level you would have noticed the site in question has MIDs which
you or anyone else can lookup and confirm for yourself that David
DID ask - he challenged the site admin to bring the page online
going so far as to tell the individual to do it NOW. The contents
of the page do not contain so much as a single unsupported
accusation. Every
single statement concerning David Brooks on that page is backed up
by MIDs where necessary.
The only poster here besides David Brooks who routinely writes
bullshit they cannot support about others is you.
On 11/12/2021 22:40, LegionX wrote:
Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
That?s the page with unsupported accusations. Show where David asked to
have such inappropriate behavior targeted at him.
If your reading comprehension wasn't stuck at elementary school
level you would have noticed the site in question has MIDs which
you or anyone else can lookup and confirm for yourself that David
DID ask - he challenged the site admin to bring the page online
going so far as to tell the individual to do it NOW. The contents
of the page do not contain so much as a single unsupported
accusation. Every
single statement concerning David Brooks on that page is backed up
by MIDs where necessary.
There are *NO* MIDS supporting the use of the individual Pseudonyms
I'm 99% sure that some have been collected by nefarious activities. Can
you prove otherwise?
<SNIP>
The only poster here besides David Brooks who routinely writes
bullshit they cannot support about others is you.
That's a *LIE*!
Shadow lies on a daily basis and Wolffan and Dustin lie whenever they
turn up here.
On 2021-12-11, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 11/12/2021 18:07, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-11, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 11/12/2021 03:45, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2021-12-10, philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote:
Perhaps the best part is that most here said I could not do it.
Actually, "most" here said you can't do *specific* things, and you
have not been able to do those specific things. For instance, you
haven't been able to edit a FileVault protected volume. Nor have
you been able to change or remove a Mac firmware password. : )
You may think you can revise history and get away with it, but you
can't change the Usenet record after the fact. Still, if dreaming
up things makes you *feel* better, then by all means, go for it. It
won't change reality though. All you are doing is making yourself
look all the more foolish by lying about it.
That was exactly the challenge I needed .
"Super philo rises to the challenge in the face of adversity" may
make for an interesting fantasy, but it's still just a fantasy in
your own mind. We get it: you are your own greatest hero. Revel in
it if you must.
The Art of War, written by Sun Tzu, he said, “If you know your enemy >>>> and you know yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred
battles.
There hasn't been any battle here - only little philo bleating like a
proud sheep at having accomplished something relatively trivial.
I'm confident that Philo has forgotten more about computing that you
have ever learned.
You wouldn't know.
Your manners are atrocious. Be kind, eh?
Nah. I'm under no obligation to be kind to stalkers, trolls, or liars.
Fuck off, Davie Boy.
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 11/12/2021 22:40, LegionX wrote:
Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
That?s the page with unsupported accusations. Show where David asked to >>>> have such inappropriate behavior targeted at him.
If your reading comprehension wasn't stuck at elementary school
level you would have noticed the site in question has MIDs which
you or anyone else can lookup and confirm for yourself that David
DID ask - he challenged the site admin to bring the page online
going so far as to tell the individual to do it NOW. The contents
of the page do not contain so much as a single unsupported
accusation. Every
single statement concerning David Brooks on that page is backed up
by MIDs where necessary.
There are *NO* MIDS supporting the use of the individual Pseudonyms
I'm 99% sure that some have been collected by nefarious activities. Can
you prove otherwise?
<SNIP>
The only poster here besides David Brooks who routinely writes
bullshit they cannot support about others is you.
That's a *LIE*!
Shadow lies on a daily basis and Wolffan and Dustin lie whenever they
turn up here.
Gremlin speaks and insults. Seems to be the only language he knows. Well, other than threats.
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 11/12/2021 18:08, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:24:30 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> >>>>>>> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are >>>>>>>>> every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>>>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Which ones?
Be specific.
*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
Why, of course you do, David. Because you say so.
*It's simply the truth*.
If anyone around here had access to your service records, I'm sure the
story would be very different, but you're safe, for now. You can claim
whatever you want.
The 'story' would forever be the same. Others are lying and will NEVER
find or show any evidence of misconduct on my part.
Keep in mind they’re not even trying to have a discussion in good faith. They’re trolling you trying to get attention.
On 11/12/2021 18:08, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:24:30 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:
On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> >>>>>> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are >>>>>>>> every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported
accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Which ones?
Be specific.
*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
Why, of course you do, David. Because you say so.
It's simply the truth.
If anyone around here had access to your service records, I'm sure the
story would be very different, but you're safe, for now. You can claim
whatever you want.
The 'story' would forever be the same. Others are lying and will NEVER
find or show any evidence of misconduct on my part.
Gremlin speaks and insults.
Seems to be the only language he knows.
Well,other than threats.
As to JR.
My beef was not with him.
Though he did not have the knowledge to help me
he did correct me when I referred to the firmware password as a bios password.
What I did think weird were the people who said I would not be able to
do this because the drive was encrypted...
even though I stated three times it was not
For them to have presumed soi
Anyway.
She picked up her machine today and was very thankful.
I don't expect to be monitoring this thread anymore.
(Oops)
And after I saw the drive, found the folder where .applesetupdone is located but from the gui, even with enabling "see hidden files"
it was not visible.
Finally, since I thankfully had MC installed, I was easily able to
rename it from terminal.
So, although it ended up being simple enough, it did take a bit of
effort to get there.
Also. As long as I'm being dumb enough to argue with you, I might as well mention that quite a few here also assumed I was trying to crack the firmware password. As I also stated...from my Googje search, I stated that the only way to do that was to replace the (I used the wrong word) BIOS chip. (I should have said firmware.)
I mentioned that not only did I not just happen to have one, I also don't have access to a de-soldering station so that would not be an option.
So, the only way to reset the machine was by putting the drive in another machine.
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote
<87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> >>>>> wrote:
On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
You've swallowed lies, hook line and sinker. You should be ashamed of yourself.
No sane logical thinking individual would agree with you. You are >>>>>>> every bit as described.
Total rubbish! I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record. :-D >>>>>>
Prove otherwise! (You cannot!)
Careful with those challenges. The last one didn't end well for you and >>>>> now you have a special page.
I do not believe David ever asked anyone to put up a page with unsupported >>>> accusations about him.
Being that DB has admitted to a number of them it's false to claim
there's no support.
Which ones?
Be specific.
*I have an exemplary, unblemished, service record*.
Carroll’s logic is still flawed.
JR:
You are wrong again.
Big deal. We all make mistakes.
Why get pissed about it?
As I clearly stated, I was able to log into the system as guest. One
of the first things I did was look at the File Vault setting and saw
that it was turned off.
Had the drive been encrypted I would have known it.
Also. As long as I'm being dumb
Show where David asked to have such inappropriate behavior targeted at him.
I have NEVER used a FALSE pseudonym EVER - each one has been REAL!
I have more questions but will ask in a place where I know I can
actually get answers.
On 12/12/2021 10:43, philo wrote:
(Oops)
And after I saw the drive, found the folder where .applesetupdone is
located but from the gui, even with enabling "see hidden files"
it was not visible.
Finally, since I thankfully had MC installed, I was easily able to
rename it from terminal.
So, although it ended up being simple enough, it did take a bit of
effort to get there.
You did well, Philo! :-D
Problem is, apple does not tell what kind of sensors is present
yes they do
And because they do (as you claim), you are able to provide the missing
info (spot the usual flaw with your claims)
In article <sotpri$kkj$1@dont-email.me>, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
Problem is, apple does not tell what kind of sensors is present
yes they do
In article <c437338fa74c86ffa41ae1ea8f230f1d@news.novabbs.com>, philo <philo@news.novabbs.com> wrote:
Also. As long as I'm being dumb enough to argue with you, I might as well
mention that quite a few here also assumed I was trying to crack the firmware
password. As I also stated...from my Googje search, I stated that the only >> way to do that was to replace the (I used the wrong word) BIOS chip. (I
should have said firmware.)
your supposed google search failed and your claim is demonstrably false.
not only is that *not* the only way, but that's the worst possible way
since the risk of permanent damage is extremely high.
the easiest way is to have apple reset it, which was clearly explained
in a link originally provided to you, which you later referenced.
there are also other options, which were also explained to you.
you chose to ignore all of it.
I mentioned that not only did I not just happen to have one, I also don't
have access to a de-soldering station so that would not be an option.
even if you did have the necessary equipment, the risk of damage is
extremely high, for a procedure that is not even needed.
So, the only way to reset the machine was by putting the drive in another
machine.
also wrong. there are several options to reset the account password
(for which you also used incorrect terminology).
as usual you did not fully explain the problem, dribbling out new bits
of information in successive posts, thereby guaranteeing that any
advice given would not work. you do this a lot.
Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> Wrote in message:
On 2021-12-11, Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> wrote:(snip) Show where David asked to have such inappropriate behavior targeted at him.He 'asks' every week, just like you do, with his "inappropriate behavior".
It's becoming more and more obvious that snit is exactly as
described by you and so many others - a usenet troll. A liar and
a con.
On 2021-12-11, Snit <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com> wrote:(snip) Show where David asked to have such inappropriate behavior targeted at him.He 'asks' every week, just like you do, with his "inappropriate behavior".
On 2021-12-11, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:(snip) I have NEVER used a FALSE pseudonym EVER - each one has been REAL!>Translation: DB just admitted, AGAIN, that he uses sock puppet.
In article <sp5urm$tgc$1@dont-email.me>, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
Problem is, apple does not tell what kind of sensors is present
yes they do
And because they do (as you claim), you are able to provide the missing
info (spot the usual flaw with your claims)
indeed i can. there are numerous third party utilities that can read
all available sensor data.
Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> Wrote in message:
On 2021-12-11, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> wrote:(snip) I have NEVER used a FALSE pseudonym EVER - each one has been REAL!>Translation: DB just admitted, AGAIN, that he uses sock puppet.
We are very glad to see that you a) noticed exactly what he
admitted to as he performed his dance and b) have created this
post calling him out on what he's just done.
There are *NO* MIDS supporting the use of the individual Pseudonyms I'm 99% sure that some have been collected by nefarious activities.
Can you prove otherwise?
The only poster here besides David Brooks who routinely writes bullshit they cannot support about others is you.That's a *LIE*!
Shadow lies on a daily basis and Wolffan and Dustin lie whenever they turn up here.
On 11/12/2021 18:08, Kelly Phillips wrote:> On Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:24:30 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>> wrote:> >> On 08/12/2021 21:06, Steve Carroll wrote:>>> On 2021-12-08, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:>>>> On Dec 8, 2021 at 11:47:12 AM MST, "Kelly Phillips" wrote>>>> <87v1rgptp66a3o2erhtkssqokrfiec1852@4ax.com>:>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 12:16:53 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/12/2021 00:14, LegionX wrote:>>>>>>> David Brooks <DavidB@
The 'story' would forever be the same.
Others are lying and will NEVER find or show any evidence of misconduct on my part.
That I'm willing to give people chances to change their behavior doesn' tmean I don't notice the behavior.
I'd still give Glasser a chance, even knowing full well that it'd likely be a waste of time, and he's done far more to me than DB has.
Indeed.Those lists are spot on and one would have to believe some giant conspiracy against snit to defend snit.
The lists cross several different usenet groups, have hundreds of different people mostly saying the same things about snit and so forth.
And even if someone were to deem those lists a set up against snit, all that person has to do is observe snit's recent posts to usenet and it's trivial to match them up with the "Snit's Methods For Lying" list.
The truth is snit is exactly the person described in the various snit lists.
On 15/12/2021 02:11, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
There are *NO* MIDS supporting the use of the individual Pseudonyms I'm 99% sure that some have been collected by nefarious activities.
David, we did write that MIDs were provided where necessary. What
exactly do you mean by nefarious? Be very specific in what you're
claiming if you'd like us to provide a reasonable answer for
you.
'BoaterDave', 'BoaterDaveTJ', '~BD~', 'BD1', 'BD2', 'Beady', 'Imbeady2', 'David B', 'David B.', 'DavidB', 'David_B', 'David DewGud', 'DavidDewgud
', 'BDonTJ', 'davidontj@gmail.com', 'LovelyLady', 'CommanderB', 'Commander_B', 'Angela Bennett', 'Byker', 'bufordTjustice', 'DonOldham', 'Tony Smith', 'MP.TonySmith', 'Tinkerer', 'Davoud1945', 'Brawdy14', 'HunterBD', 'HunterDB', 'Hunter88', 'Steve Carroll', 'I.Mackie', 'GA11', 'Marley', 'SaabOwner', 'Owner', 'C.A.Strate', 'Derek Feldman', 'A.
Student', 'David in Devon', 'Dudley Brooks', 'Mrs Parrot', 'David G.
Brooks', 'Russell Newbery', 'David B 1466', 'DGB', 'David', 'Anonymous', 'Christine Grist', 'Big Brother', 'PSA', 'davidbrooks_5408', 'Sir Topham Hatt', 'Jack', 'Jon Botting', 'Jonathanbotting', 'John <Doh>', 'Sidney Carton', 'Mr On!on', 'BD', 'Strgzr', 'rsoul' forgery, 'David_B@reinstall.T'bird', 'JetProvost' {in Mac forum}, 'asinrutee',
'Jon', 'David Brooks', 'DigbyDB', 'John Doe', 'P C Butts', 'Alli Cat', 'David.Brooks', '111MS' , 'Tinkerer2', 'Dbd', 'David', 'Don Kwicksote', 'PitometerLog', 'Dave', 'BDBHeather', 'David B. Linux' , 'John Smith',
'Joe' [<—83]
=
NO EVIDENCE has been provided to show WHERE these pseudonyms have been used.
Snit has personally assured me that he is NOT responsible for the "fretwizzer" bot.
"Steve Carroll mixes up his fretwizzer and fretwizzen accounts again". https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/LSBFYbzYm1g/m/7F6glDclLgAJ?pli=1
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
There are *NO* MIDS supporting the use of the individual Pseudonyms I'm 99% sure that some have been collected by nefarious activities.
David, we did write that MIDs were provided where necessary. What
exactly do you mean by nefarious? Be very specific in what you're
claiming if you'd like us to provide a reasonable answer for
you.
Can you prove otherwise?
Once you clarify exactly what you mean - be blunt and write to us
an explanation as you would a five year old American. No offense
but generally speaking a typical American kid at the age of five
isn't doing much with their brains - some might even say many
opportunities for learning are being wasted due to the ackward
way in which the parents interact (or not?) With their
children.
Every American we know has issues of some sort. Usually something
to do with their childhoods. Snit and Gremlin are both good
examples. They are both Americans. And both of them have their
own quirks or issues. To deny it is to lie to yourself. We know
Gremlins story. We've met both of his parents at some point along
the journey. While we don't personally know Snit as we do Gremlin
it's not hard for any of us to make reliable educated guesses. We
have Gremlin as one example to go by. As well as some others in
the group - you don't presently know any of us by our own handles
and we can't think of a reason for that to change for
you.
You do know of Gremlin and Snit so they can and have been used as
examples of our fucked up Americans. As a brit yourself you would
have to agree Americans do things differently yes?
The only poster here besides David Brooks who routinely writes bullshit they cannot support about others is you.That's a *LIE*!
Please explain how our writing is or was a lie? We have Snit dead
to rights as Americans say? Lying his whiny little arse off and
attempting to support his lie! We have him red handed! Lying on
specific posters multiple times. We have him creating total
malarky labels to falsely describe atleast two posters here AND
taking advantage of the floodbot to search engine seed false
statements he created to describe them. If that's not bad enough
for a short period of time he started to deny that he was infact
the source of the very comments he invited readers to search for
via their favorite search engine.
These are all things we can prove he has done here David. We
aren't making a single false accusation towards him or anyone
else. You are fully aware of both of the threads which involve
snit lying intentionally about another poster. You were involved
in one of them, David. And you know for an absolute fact that
snit not only falsely accused him of writing a direct lie he also
lied when he claimed you had asked him to do no such thing.
David, snit stalled Gremlin for several days about apologizing
for having falsely written that Gremlin had written a direct lie
about you. When snit finally did write an apology it had nothing
to do with what he wrote. It was complete garbage. Snit did not
apologize to Gremlin (or you) for falsely writing that Gremlin
had written a direct lie about you. Snit still refuses to
apologize for falsely claiming that Gremlin had an actual fucking
copy of the bot itself. When the entire post Gremlin made is read
though the first few lines clearly state that Gremlin doesn't
have the bot in any form and was already calling snit out for
having put words in Gremlins mouth. David anybody can see that
the full post snit did a little creative lifting from did not in
any way support snits multiple accusations he made about Gremlin
having the bot. Snit lied multiple times and quoted some of
Gremlins own reply - completely out of context - to try to
support the entire story he concocted about Gremlin and the
bot.
We can prove he (snit) did this too, David. Our signature shares a
link which proves both of his (snits) lies happened as we wrote.
We arenn't including ourselves in the tally because we are a
disposable handle and aren't really a regular or even a fair
target.
Shadow lies on a daily basis and Wolffan and Dustin lie whenever they turn up here.
Let us go one by one here then. What specifically has Shadow lied
about?
Same question for the other two you listed.
We would also like to know why you address him as you did and not
his posting handle Gremlin? We are under the impression it's an
ongoing sign of disrespect in a non adult manner. Are we far off
the mark or spot on?
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/12/2021 02:11, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
There are *NO* MIDS supporting the use of the individual Pseudonyms I'm 99% sure that some have been collected by nefarious activities.
David, we did write that MIDs were provided where necessary. What
exactly do you mean by nefarious? Be very specific in what you're
claiming if you'd like us to provide a reasonable answer for
you.
'BoaterDave', 'BoaterDaveTJ', '~BD~', 'BD1', 'BD2', 'Beady', 'Imbeady2',
'David B', 'David B.', 'DavidB', 'David_B', 'David DewGud', 'DavidDewgud
', 'BDonTJ', 'davidontj@gmail.com', 'LovelyLady', 'CommanderB',
'Commander_B', 'Angela Bennett', 'Byker', 'bufordTjustice', 'DonOldham',
'Tony Smith', 'MP.TonySmith', 'Tinkerer', 'Davoud1945', 'Brawdy14',
'HunterBD', 'HunterDB', 'Hunter88', 'Steve Carroll', 'I.Mackie', 'GA11',
'Marley', 'SaabOwner', 'Owner', 'C.A.Strate', 'Derek Feldman', 'A.
Student', 'David in Devon', 'Dudley Brooks', 'Mrs Parrot', 'David G.
Brooks', 'Russell Newbery', 'David B 1466', 'DGB', 'David', 'Anonymous',
'Christine Grist', 'Big Brother', 'PSA', 'davidbrooks_5408', 'Sir Topham
Hatt', 'Jack', 'Jon Botting', 'Jonathanbotting', 'John <Doh>', 'Sidney
Carton', 'Mr On!on', 'BD', 'Strgzr', 'rsoul' forgery,
'David_B@reinstall.T'bird', 'JetProvost' {in Mac forum}, 'asinrutee',
'Jon', 'David Brooks', 'DigbyDB', 'John Doe', 'P C Butts', 'Alli Cat',
'David.Brooks', '111MS' , 'Tinkerer2', 'Dbd', 'David', 'Don Kwicksote',
'PitometerLog', 'Dave', 'BDBHeather', 'David B. Linux' , 'John Smith',
'Joe' [<—83]
=
NO EVIDENCE has been provided to show WHERE these pseudonyms have been used.
I should've included the above. According to *your* concept of what constitutes "EVIDENCE", "WHERE" these were used is irrelevant, all
that's needed is that someone stated you used them.
You shouldn't listen to Snit, I keep telling you and you keep ignoring
me ;)
NO EVIDENCE has been provided to show WHERE these pseudonyms have been used.
You can see quite clearly just how hard I was trying to hide.
Dustin Cook is the only person I have ever 'met' who has lost *TWO* fathers.
Yes, Americans are generally disliked all around the world.
Snit has personally assured me that he is NOT responsible for the "fretwizzer" bot.
Dustin Cook claimed that he'd be able to pinpoint the ACTUAL perpetrator but he has failed so to do.
I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snit has made here in ACW
Shadow claims I drink.
They claim I drink. I do not.
I address Dustin by the name he claimed was his by birthright.
He should be proud of what he achieved
but, instead, he hangs his head in shame for the way he has behaved towards others.
He's used a fair number of #FAKE_NYMS as Shadow likes to call them.
It should be obvious to you that someone has been stalking *ME*!
You will also notice that there are only [<-83] pseudonyms, not over 100 as claimed by Shadow.
Let's have Skype of FaceTime chat about this and sort things out properly. What do you say?
please note David Brooks stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018
Dustin Cook sadly lost TWO fathers - they both died.
He also claimed to have beaten his granddad to within an inch of his life.
Raid/Slam, Raidy, Diesel, Gremlin
LegionX are just some of his pseudonyms
Here's confirmation of the illegal activity in which Dustin has been involved
Do you think he was foolish to publish his personal details 'in the clear'?
Truth is what folk get from me.
Diesel
On 15/12/2021 23:01, LegionX please note
David Brooks stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018
On 15/12/2021 21:02, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/12/2021 02:11, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
There are *NO* MIDS supporting the use of the individual Pseudonyms I'm 99% sure that some have been collected by nefarious activities.
David, we did write that MIDs were provided where necessary. What
exactly do you mean by nefarious? Be very specific in what you're
claiming if you'd like us to provide a reasonable answer for
you.
'BoaterDave', 'BoaterDaveTJ', '~BD~', 'BD1', 'BD2', 'Beady', 'Imbeady2', >>> 'David B', 'David B.', 'DavidB', 'David_B', 'David DewGud', 'DavidDewgud >>> ', 'BDonTJ', 'davidontj@gmail.com', 'LovelyLady', 'CommanderB',
'Commander_B', 'Angela Bennett', 'Byker', 'bufordTjustice', 'DonOldham', >>> 'Tony Smith', 'MP.TonySmith', 'Tinkerer', 'Davoud1945', 'Brawdy14',
'HunterBD', 'HunterDB', 'Hunter88', 'Steve Carroll', 'I.Mackie', 'GA11', >>> 'Marley', 'SaabOwner', 'Owner', 'C.A.Strate', 'Derek Feldman', 'A.
Student', 'David in Devon', 'Dudley Brooks', 'Mrs Parrot', 'David G.
Brooks', 'Russell Newbery', 'David B 1466', 'DGB', 'David', 'Anonymous', >>> 'Christine Grist', 'Big Brother', 'PSA', 'davidbrooks_5408', 'Sir Topham >>> Hatt', 'Jack', 'Jon Botting', 'Jonathanbotting', 'John <Doh>', 'Sidney
Carton', 'Mr On!on', 'BD', 'Strgzr', 'rsoul' forgery,
'David_B@reinstall.T'bird', 'JetProvost' {in Mac forum}, 'asinrutee',
'Jon', 'David Brooks', 'DigbyDB', 'John Doe', 'P C Butts', 'Alli Cat',
'David.Brooks', '111MS' , 'Tinkerer2', 'Dbd', 'David', 'Don Kwicksote',
'PitometerLog', 'Dave', 'BDBHeather', 'David B. Linux' , 'John Smith',
'Joe' [<—83]
=
NO EVIDENCE has been provided to show WHERE these pseudonyms have been used.
I should've included the above. According to *your* concept of what
constitutes "EVIDENCE", "WHERE" these were used is irrelevant, all
that's needed is that someone stated you used them.
It should be obvious to you that someone has been stalking *ME*!
You will also notice that there are only [<-83] pseudonyms, not over 100
as claimed by Shadow.
You shouldn't listen to Snit, I keep telling you and you keep ignoring
me ;)
Let's have Skype of FaceTime chat about this and sort things out
properly. What do you say?
On 15/12/2021 02:11, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
There are *NO* MIDS supporting the use of the individual Pseudonyms I'm 99% >>> sure that some have been collected by nefarious activities.
David, we did write that MIDs were provided where necessary. What
exactly do you mean by nefarious? Be very specific in what you're
claiming if you'd like us to provide a reasonable answer for
you.
'BoaterDave', 'BoaterDaveTJ', '~BD~', 'BD1', 'BD2', 'Beady', 'Imbeady2', 'David B', 'David B.', 'DavidB', 'David_B', 'David DewGud', 'DavidDewgud
', 'BDonTJ', 'davidontj@gmail.com', 'LovelyLady', 'CommanderB', 'Commander_B', 'Angela Bennett', 'Byker', 'bufordTjustice', 'DonOldham', 'Tony Smith', 'MP.TonySmith', 'Tinkerer', 'Davoud1945', 'Brawdy14', 'HunterBD', 'HunterDB', 'Hunter88', 'Steve Carroll', 'I.Mackie', 'GA11', 'Marley', 'SaabOwner', 'Owner', 'C.A.Strate', 'Derek Feldman', 'A.
Student', 'David in Devon', 'Dudley Brooks', 'Mrs Parrot', 'David G.
Brooks', 'Russell Newbery', 'David B 1466', 'DGB', 'David', 'Anonymous', 'Christine Grist', 'Big Brother', 'PSA', 'davidbrooks_5408', 'Sir Topham Hatt', 'Jack', 'Jon Botting', 'Jonathanbotting', 'John <Doh>', 'Sidney Carton', 'Mr On!on', 'BD', 'Strgzr', 'rsoul' forgery, 'David_B@reinstall.T'bird', 'JetProvost' {in Mac forum}, 'asinrutee',
'Jon', 'David Brooks', 'DigbyDB', 'John Doe', 'P C Butts', 'Alli Cat', 'David.Brooks', '111MS' , 'Tinkerer2', 'Dbd', 'David', 'Don Kwicksote', 'PitometerLog', 'Dave', 'BDBHeather', 'David B. Linux' , 'John Smith',
'Joe' [<—83]> =
NO EVIDENCE has been provided to show WHERE these pseudonyms have been used.
Can you prove otherwise?
Once you clarify exactly what you mean - be blunt and write to us
an explanation as you would a five year old American. No offense
but generally speaking a typical American kid at the age of five
isn't doing much with their brains - some might even say many
opportunities for learning are being wasted due to the ackward
way in which the parents interact (or not?) With their
children.
You can see quite clearly just how hard I was trying to hide.
Every American we know has issues of some sort. Usually something
to do with their childhoods. Snit and Gremlin are both good
examples. They are both Americans. And both of them have their
own quirks or issues. To deny it is to lie to yourself. We know
Gremlins story. We've met both of his parents at some point along
the journey. While we don't personally know Snit as we do Gremlin
it's not hard for any of us to make reliable educated guesses. We
have Gremlin as one example to go by. As well as some others in
the group - you don't presently know any of us by our own handles
and we can't think of a reason for that to change for
you.
Dustin Cook is the only person I have ever 'met' who has lost *TWO*
fathers. Which one of his fathers did YOU meet?
You do know of Gremlin and Snit so they can and have been used as
examples of our fucked up Americans. As a brit yourself you would
have to agree Americans do things differently yes?
Yes, Americans are generally disliked all around the world.
The only poster here besides David Brooks who routinely writes bullshit >>>> they cannot support about others is you.That's a *LIE*!
Please explain how our writing is or was a lie? We have Snit dead
to rights as Americans say? Lying his whiny little arse off and
attempting to support his lie! We have him red handed! Lying on
specific posters multiple times. We have him creating total
malarky labels to falsely describe atleast two posters here AND
taking advantage of the floodbot to search engine seed false
statements he created to describe them. If that's not bad enough
for a short period of time he started to deny that he was infact
the source of the very comments he invited readers to search for
via their favorite search engine.
Snit has personally assured me that he is NOT responsible for the "fretwizzer" bot.
"Steve Carroll mixes up his fretwizzer and fretwizzen accounts again". https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/LSBFYbzYm1g/m/7F6glDclLgAJ?pli=1
Dustin Cook claimed that he'd be able to pinpoint the ACTUAL perpetrator
but he has failed so to do.
These are all things we can prove he has done here David. We
aren't making a single false accusation towards him or anyone
else. You are fully aware of both of the threads which involve
snit lying intentionally about another poster. You were involved
in one of them, David. And you know for an absolute fact that
snit not only falsely accused him of writing a direct lie he also
lied when he claimed you had asked him to do no such thing.
David, snit stalled Gremlin for several days about apologizing
for having falsely written that Gremlin had written a direct lie
about you. When snit finally did write an apology it had nothing
to do with what he wrote. It was complete garbage. Snit did not
apologize to Gremlin (or you) for falsely writing that Gremlin
had written a direct lie about you. Snit still refuses to
apologize for falsely claiming that Gremlin had an actual fucking
copy of the bot itself. When the entire post Gremlin made is read
though the first few lines clearly state that Gremlin doesn't
have the bot in any form and was already calling snit out for
having put words in Gremlins mouth. David anybody can see that
the full post snit did a little creative lifting from did not in
any way support snits multiple accusations he made about Gremlin
having the bot. Snit lied multiple times and quoted some of
Gremlins own reply - completely out of context - to try to
support the entire story he concocted about Gremlin and the
bot.
We can prove he (snit) did this too, David. Our signature shares a
link which proves both of his (snits) lies happened as we wrote.
I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snit has made here in ACW
We arenn't including ourselves in the tally because we are a
disposable handle and aren't really a regular or even a fair
target.
Shadow lies on a daily basis and Wolffan and Dustin lie whenever they turn >>> up here.
Let us go one by one here then. What specifically has Shadow lied
about?
Shadow claims I drink. I don't.
Same question for the other two you listed.
They claim I drink. I do not.
We would also like to know why you address him as you did and not
his posting handle Gremlin? We are under the impression it's an
ongoing sign of disrespect in a non adult manner. Are we far off
the mark or spot on?
I address Dustin by the name he claimed was his by birthright. It's
published here in bright lights for anyone to see:- https://i.imgur.com/i5tiWdT.jpg He should be proud of what he achieved
but, instead, he hangs his head in shame for the way he has behaved
towards others.
He's used a fair number of #FAKE_NYMS as Shadow likes to call them.
They are not FAKE at all - they are pseudonyms!
HTH
On Dec 15, 2021 at 1:35:40 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<spdjis$udt$1@hunterbd.eternal-september.org>:
On 15/12/2021 02:11, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S> Wrote in message:
There are *NO* MIDS supporting the use of the individual Pseudonyms I'm 99%
sure that some have been collected by nefarious activities.
David, we did write that MIDs were provided where necessary. What
exactly do you mean by nefarious? Be very specific in what you're
claiming if you'd like us to provide a reasonable answer for
you.
'BoaterDave', 'BoaterDaveTJ', '~BD~', 'BD1', 'BD2', 'Beady', 'Imbeady2',
'David B', 'David B.', 'DavidB', 'David_B', 'David DewGud', 'DavidDewgud
', 'BDonTJ', 'davidontj@gmail.com', 'LovelyLady', 'CommanderB',
'Commander_B', 'Angela Bennett', 'Byker', 'bufordTjustice', 'DonOldham',
'Tony Smith', 'MP.TonySmith', 'Tinkerer', 'Davoud1945', 'Brawdy14',
'HunterBD', 'HunterDB', 'Hunter88', 'Steve Carroll', 'I.Mackie', 'GA11',
'Marley', 'SaabOwner', 'Owner', 'C.A.Strate', 'Derek Feldman', 'A.
Student', 'David in Devon', 'Dudley Brooks', 'Mrs Parrot', 'David G.
Brooks', 'Russell Newbery', 'David B 1466', 'DGB', 'David', 'Anonymous',
'Christine Grist', 'Big Brother', 'PSA', 'davidbrooks_5408', 'Sir Topham
Hatt', 'Jack', 'Jon Botting', 'Jonathanbotting', 'John <Doh>', 'Sidney
Carton', 'Mr On!on', 'BD', 'Strgzr', 'rsoul' forgery,
'David_B@reinstall.T'bird', 'JetProvost' {in Mac forum}, 'asinrutee',
'Jon', 'David Brooks', 'DigbyDB', 'John Doe', 'P C Butts', 'Alli Cat',
'David.Brooks', '111MS' , 'Tinkerer2', 'Dbd', 'David', 'Don Kwicksote',
'PitometerLog', 'Dave', 'BDBHeather', 'David B. Linux' , 'John Smith',
'Joe' [<—83]> =
NO EVIDENCE has been provided to show WHERE these pseudonyms have been used.
One post was shown... but no evidence it was you. Not even reasoning to think it might be.
This speaks very poorly of how Gremlin sees kids!
Gremlin insists he does not think it is me but that I somehow control it.
Does not make any sense to me at all.
Carroll has done so several times.
And he used to use the "bot" account topost other things before he was running the bot.
Also used several otheraccounts for the bot, and with some of those also posted non-bot posts.
Add tothat he was working with a guy named Sandman to make an "auto-responder"client (or whatever they called that bot).
Or has not admitted he has... it is not unlikely he did track it back to Carroll with proof but they co-troll together.
Not saying this IS the case,but there is some reason to think it might be.
And then he denies them, as he does with his current LegionX name.
Keep in mind they?re not even trying to have a discussion in good faith.
They?re trolling you trying to get attention.
I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snit has made here in ACW
David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:
I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snit has made here in ACW
An acceptable suggestion.
I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snit has made here in ACWAn acceptable suggestion.
Good! :-D
On 17/12/2021 06:01, LegionX wrote:
David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:
I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snit has made here in ACW
An acceptable suggestion.
Good! :-D
David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:
I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snit has made here in ACWAn acceptable suggestion.
Good! :-D
David,
Why did you snip and run? Here's what you snipped:
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
Those took place in ACW. They are the lies he wrote that you
aren't even disputing. The same lies you quoted back to us as you
made your suggestion. They took place in ACW - this very
newsgroup.
So what do you have to say for the lies snit wrote here?
On 16/12/2021 13:46, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/12/2021 23:01, LegionX please note
David Brooks stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018
And Shadow says otherwise
Shadow is a *LIAR*
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:[....]
Let's have Skype of FaceTime chat about this and sort things out
properly. What do you say?
There's nothing to sort, you just used the old 'Evidence for me but not
for thee' routine and anyone bothering to read can see it. Readers have
a good indication why Glasser believes everyone is as stupid as he needs
them to be.
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/12/2021 23:01, LegionX please note
David Brooks stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018
And Shadow says otherwise
On 16/12/2021 13:41, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:[....]
Let's have Skype of FaceTime chat about this and sort things out
properly. What do you say?
There's nothing to sort, you just used the old 'Evidence for me but not
for thee' routine and anyone bothering to read can see it. Readers have
a good indication why Glasser believes everyone is as stupid as he needs
them to be.
So, you're a chicken-shit.
On 17/12/2021 21:42, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-17, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 16/12/2021 13:46, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/12/2021 23:01, LegionX please note
David Brooks stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018
And Shadow says otherwise
Shadow is a *LIAR*
Snit is a *LIAR*. What's your point?
The point is that *I* am *NOT* a liar.
On 2021-12-17, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 16/12/2021 13:46, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/12/2021 23:01, LegionX please note
David Brooks stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018
And Shadow says otherwise
Shadow is a *LIAR*
Snit is a *LIAR*. What's your point?
On 17/12/2021 21:42, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-17, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 16/12/2021 13:46, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/12/2021 23:01, LegionX please note
David Brooks stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018
And Shadow says otherwise
Shadow is a *LIAR*
Snit is a *LIAR*. What's your point?
The point is that *I* am *NOT* a liar.
On 17/12/2021 14:40, LegionX wrote:> David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:>>> I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snit has made here in ACW>> An acceptable suggestion.> >> Good! :-D> > David,> > Why did you snip and run?Here's what you snipped:> >
I'm not interested in reviewing the feud you lost
So what do you have to say for the lies snit wrote here?
Nothing. Not my fight.
On 17/12/2021 21:42, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-17, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 16/12/2021 13:46, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/12/2021 23:01, LegionX please note
David Brooks stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018
And Shadow says otherwise
Shadow is a *LIAR*
Snit is a *LIAR*. What's your point?
The point is that *I* am *NOT* a liar.
I seek the truth. I TELL the truth too.
I stopped drinking on 21 March 2018. *ANY* reference to me being 'drunk'
or a drunkard are *OBVIOUSLY* lies.
David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:rrun? Here's what you snipped:> >
On 17/12/2021 14:40, LegionX wrote:> David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:>>> I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snit has made here in ACW>> An acceptable suggestion.> >> Good! :-D> > David,> > Why did you snip and
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
I'm not interested in reviewing the feud you lost
We didn't provide a link to a feud. You suggested that we stick to
lies snit has written since he's been here - you weren't
interested in his lies written elsewhere. We did as you
requested. The url we shared:
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
Is proof of two separate lies snit has written about Gremlin since
snit has been posting here.
We didn't participate in their discussion and it's quite clear
that Gremlin proved beyond any doubt that snit was lying about
him. As he wrote.
So what do you have to say for the lies snit wrote here?
Nothing. Not my fight.
We didn't know how much of a weasel you are until now. You asked
for proof of snit writing lies in this newsgroup specifically -
and we provided it. Atleast you can no longer deny that snit is
every bit the liar many have stated he is.
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 22:50:14 +0000, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 17/12/2021 21:42, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-17, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 16/12/2021 13:46, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2021-12-15, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/12/2021 23:01, LegionX please note
David Brooks stopped drinking alcohol on 21 March 2018
And Shadow says otherwise
Shadow is a *LIAR*
Snit is a *LIAR*. What's your point?
The point is that *I* am *NOT* a liar.
Everyone will react to your claim as they see fit, but for me I think I
need to see at least 24 hours of honesty before I give serious
consideration. Yes, I know that 24 hours isn't much at all, but it's
still far more than I think you can manage.
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 21:28:43 +0000, David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> wrote:
I seek the truth. I TELL the truth too.
Yes, of course you do.
I stopped drinking on 21 March 2018. *ANY* reference to me being 'drunk'
or a drunkard are *OBVIOUSLY* lies.
It's not supported by the available evidence.
On 18/12/2021 00:28, LegionX wrote:> David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:r>> On 17/12/2021 14:40, LegionX wrote:> David Brooks <DavidBrooks@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:>>> I suggest you concentrate only on posts which Snithas made here in ACW>> An acceptable suggestion.> >> Good! :-D> > David,> > Why did you snip and run? Here's what you snipped:> >> > <https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>> >> I'm not interested in reviewing the feud you lost> > We didn't provide a link to
One can see how Snit easily got the better of Gremlin, sure!
you can no longer deny that snit is> every bit the liar many have stated he is.So what do you have to say for the lies snit wrote here?> >> Nothing. Not my fight.> > We didn't know how much of a weasel you are until now. You asked> for proof of snit writing lies in this newsgroup specifically -> and we provided it. Atleast
Can you make better videos than these?
They might help you pin down who is responsible for the flooder posts.
HTH
One can see how Snit easily got the better of Gremlin, sure!
I DID NOT ASK SNIT FOR HIS HELP! *I was trying to help Snit*!
On Aug 12, 2020 at 12:19:32 AM MST, "David_B" <Dav...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Perhaps you can match the number you have with the businesses you can
read about here?
https://www.yellowpages.com/johnson-city-tn/computer-stores
Not there.
If Dustin Cook provided his business information it would show that he really had 'turned a corner' and was now being open and honest.
He could then, at long last, put his evil past behind him.
Your xian attitude towards Gremlin is laughable on a good day.> More importantly though - your replies to us on this subject are> letting others see your true colors. They're seeing for> themselves what a dishonest bad guy you are. There'sabsolutely> no reason for any of us to think you've reduced your alcohol> consumption - certainly nothing about your posts gives any of us> the impression that you even know what the word truth means.
What you and/or others THINK is irrelevant.
The *FACT* is that I stopped drinking on 21 March 2018
WRONG I don't support ANYONE who lies.
Dustin Cook lies.
He claims that he LIKES to hurt people.
That, Shirley, *IS* a lie ...... isn't it?
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