• Apple II Newsgroups

    From D Finnigan@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 8 19:51:34 2021
    People who regularly use Google Groups for Apple II discussions in comp.sys.apple2 are no doubt dismayed by the large number of FOREIGN
    language, off-topic articles which are too frequently posted.

    These users will find the Apple II discussions at Mac GUI are free from
    these off-topic posts. Take a look:

    https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1

    Those who register at Mac GUI can access all the same Apple II newsgroups,
    with the same complete archives dating back to the 1980s. There is also an option to receive digests via email.

    --
    ]DF$
    The New Apple II User's Guide:
    https://macgui.com/newa2guide/

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  • From Steve Nickolas@21:1/5 to D Finnigan on Fri Oct 8 18:30:08 2021
    On Fri, 8 Oct 2021, D Finnigan wrote:

    People who regularly use Google Groups for Apple II discussions in comp.sys.apple2 are no doubt dismayed by the large number of FOREIGN language, off-topic articles which are too frequently posted.

    These users will find the Apple II discussions at Mac GUI are free from
    these off-topic posts. Take a look:

    https://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1

    Those who register at Mac GUI can access all the same Apple II newsgroups, with the same complete archives dating back to the 1980s. There is also an option to receive digests via email.



    I wound up creating a killfile in Alpine, which I called "The Italian
    Filter". Every so often I have to update it.

    -uso.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Antoine Vignau on Sun Oct 10 10:13:19 2021
    On 2021-10-09 20:57:50 +0000, Antoine Vignau said:

    The Italian messages are a BIG nightmare. The newsgroup is barely
    readable now. Perhaps, I should switch to David's site.

    Antoine

    Just use a proper Usenet service and newsreader app, instead of crappy
    Google Groups. I use the free nntp.aioe.org newsserver and haven't seen
    any "Italian messages".

    As for the original post about "David's site" ... posting a spam
    advertising message for a website as a complaint about spam messages
    seems rather hypocritical. Usenet is not a free advertising space for
    other people to use for anything.

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  • From Antoine Vignau@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 9 13:57:50 2021
    The Italian messages are a BIG nightmare. The newsgroup is barely readable now. Perhaps, I should switch to David's site.

    Antoine

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  • From qkumba@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 9 13:30:03 2021
    which I called "The Italian Filter"

    Missed opportunity to call it "The Italian Job". :-)

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  • From awanderin@21:1/5 to Antoine Vignau on Sat Oct 9 19:52:55 2021
    Antoine Vignau <ntn.vignau@gmail.com> writes:

    The Italian messages are a BIG nightmare. The newsgroup is barely readable now. Perhaps, I
    should switch to David's site.

    I use the gnus newsreader in emacs and I do occasionally have to update
    the score file, but for the most part it clears these out. I use
    nntp.aioe.org for my NNTP server.

    --
    --
    Jerry awanderin at gmail dot com

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  • From Tempest@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 11 05:09:02 2021
    As for the original post about "David's site" ... posting a spam advertising message for a website as a complaint about spam messages seems rather hypocritical.

    There's nothing wrong with offering a solution to a problem. I quite happy he did actually.

    Usenet is not a free advertising space for other people to use for anything.

    You're kidding right?


    I gave up on reporting those messages to Google after a while. They seemed to stop for a bit over the summer but now they're back in force. I guess I'll just have to migrate over to Mac GUI then as the google groups version is quickly becoming unusable.


    I assume that these are just spam bots targeting every usenet forum and they're not targeting the Apple II forum specifically. I wonder if all the remaining usenet groups will have a similar problem?

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  • From Dean Phares@21:1/5 to Tempest on Mon Oct 11 13:02:40 2021
    Tempest wrote:
    As for the original post about "David's site" ... posting a spam >>>advertising message for a website as a complaint about spam messages >>>seems rather hypocritical.

    There's nothing wrong with offering a solution to a problem. I quite
    happy
    he did actually.

    Usenet is not a free advertising space for other people to use for >>>anything.

    You're kidding right?


    I gave up on reporting those messages to Google after a while. They
    seemed
    to stop for a bit over the summer but now they're back in force. I guess I'll just have to migrate over to Mac GUI then as the google groups
    version
    is quickly becoming unusable.

    I assume that these are just spam bots targeting every usenet forum and they're not targeting the Apple II forum specifically. I wonder if all
    the
    remaining usenet groups will have a similar problem?


    As far as I've seen, using Google Groups for reading the different Apple II newsgroups, it is just comp.sys.apple2 that is getting spammed by all the foreign language posts. I don't know if this is happening to Atari and Commodore groups as well.

    --
    "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve". - Bilbo Baggins, Lord of the
    Rings, Fellowship of the Ring

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  • From Scott Alfter@21:1/5 to YourName@YourISP.com on Mon Oct 11 17:16:21 2021
    In article <sjt0lf$601$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2021-10-09 20:57:50 +0000, Antoine Vignau said:

    The Italian messages are a BIG nightmare. The newsgroup is barely
    readable now. Perhaps, I should switch to David's site.

    Antoine

    Just use a proper Usenet service and newsreader app, instead of crappy
    Google Groups. I use the free nntp.aioe.org newsserver and haven't seen
    any "Italian messages".

    This. Eternal September is still up, isn't it? I was using it for a while:

    http://www.eternal-september.org/

    _/_
    / v \ Scott Alfter (remove the obvious to send mail)
    (IIGS( https://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
    \_^_/ >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Scott Alfter on Tue Oct 12 09:14:11 2021
    On 2021-10-11 17:16:21 +0000, Scott Alfter said:
    In article <sjt0lf$601$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2021-10-09 20:57:50 +0000, Antoine Vignau said:

    The Italian messages are a BIG nightmare. The newsgroup is barely
    readable now. Perhaps, I should switch to David's site.

    Antoine

    Just use a proper Usenet service and newsreader app, instead of crappy
    Google Groups. I use the free nntp.aioe.org newsserver and haven't seen
    any "Italian messages".

    This. Eternal September is still up, isn't it? I was using it for a while:

    http://www.eternal-september.org/

    I think so, but I've never used it. AIOE.org is completely free, you
    don't even need to sign up for any account.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Tempest on Tue Oct 12 09:12:20 2021
    On 2021-10-11 12:09:02 +0000, Tempest said:

    As for the original post about "David's site" ... posting a spam
    advertising message for a website as a complaint about spam messages
    seems rather hypocritical.
    There's nothing wrong with offering a solution to a problem. I quite
    happy he did actually.

    Good for you, but it doesn't make it any less of a spam message.



    Usenet is not a free advertising space for other people to use for anything.
    You're kidding right?

    Usenet is not a free advertising space, despite what far too many
    selfish morons like to believe.



    I gave up on reporting those messages to Google after a while. They
    seemed to stop for a bit over the summer but now they're back in force.
    I guess I'll just have to migrate over to Mac GUI then as the google
    groups version is quickly becoming unusable.
    I assume that these are just spam bots targeting every usenet forum and they're not targeting the Apple II forum specifically. I wonder if all
    the remaining usenet groups will have a similar problem?

    Google Groups is not Usenet, neer has been. Google Groups is and always
    has been complete garbage. Get a proper Usenet newsreader app and
    newsserver.

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  • From Steve Nickolas@21:1/5 to Scott Alfter on Mon Oct 11 18:04:13 2021
    On Mon, 11 Oct 2021, Scott Alfter wrote:

    In article <sjt0lf$601$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2021-10-09 20:57:50 +0000, Antoine Vignau said:

    The Italian messages are a BIG nightmare. The newsgroup is barely
    readable now. Perhaps, I should switch to David's site.

    Antoine

    Just use a proper Usenet service and newsreader app, instead of crappy
    Google Groups. I use the free nntp.aioe.org newsserver and haven't seen
    any "Italian messages".

    This. Eternal September is still up, isn't it? I was using it for a while:

    http://www.eternal-september.org/

    I've used it and continue to, ever since my previous ISP dropped their
    feed.

    -uso.

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  • From Tempest@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 11 16:07:24 2021
    Good for you, but it doesn't make it any less of a spam message.
    Usenet is not a free advertising space, despite what far too many selfish morons like to believe.
    Google Groups is not Usenet, neer has been. Google Groups is and always has been complete garbage. Get a proper Usenet newsreader app and newsserver.

    Ah, you're one of those people. Say no more.

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Tempest on Tue Oct 12 12:52:59 2021
    On 2021-10-11 23:07:24 +0000, Tempest said:

    Good for you, but it doesn't make it any less of a spam message.
    Usenet is not a free advertising space, despite what far too many
    selfish morons like to believe.
    Google Groups is not Usenet, neer has been. Google Groups is and always
    has been complete garbage. Get a proper Usenet newsreader app and
    newsserver.

    Ah, you're one of those people. Say no more.

    Yep, those people intelligent enough to NOT use idiotic Google Groups.

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  • From D Finnigan@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Oct 12 20:32:41 2021
    Your Name wrote:

    I think so, but I've never used it. AIOE.org is completely free, you
    don't even need to sign up for any account.


    Are you too advertising another service?

    Wasn't there some guy who in message-ID <sjt0lf$601$1@gioia.aioe.org>
    said, "Usenet is not a free advertising space for other people to use for anything."

    ???

    --
    ]DF$
    The New Apple II User's Guide:
    https://macgui.com/newa2guide/

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to D Finnigan on Wed Oct 13 12:38:05 2021
    On 2021-10-12 20:32:41 +0000, D Finnigan said:
    Your Name wrote:

    I think so, but I've never used it. AIOE.org is completely free, you
    don't even need to sign up for any account.

    Are you too advertising another service?

    Wasn't there some guy who in message-ID <sjt0lf$601$1@gioia.aioe.org>
    said, "Usenet is not a free advertising space for other people to use for anything."

    ???

    I'm not advertising anything - it's not my service and there's no
    referral fee. I'm not even promoting it, simply saying that I use it
    and it's a proper Usenet newsserver which is totally free.

    Whichever Usenet service people want to use is up to them, but using
    idiotic Google Groups and complaining about its well known problems and shortcomings is simply silly.

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  • From bobbi.8bit@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Steve Nickolas on Tue Oct 12 20:13:00 2021
    Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Oct 2021, Scott Alfter wrote:

    In article <sjt0lf$601$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2021-10-09 20:57:50 +0000, Antoine Vignau said:

    The Italian messages are a BIG nightmare. The newsgroup is barely
    readable now. Perhaps, I should switch to David's site.

    Antoine

    Just use a proper Usenet service and newsreader app, instead of crappy
    Google Groups. I use the free nntp.aioe.org newsserver and haven't seen
    any "Italian messages".

    This. Eternal September is still up, isn't it? I was using it for a >while:

    http://www.eternal-september.org/

    I've used it and continue to, ever since my previous ISP dropped their
    feed.


    One option, if you have an Uthernet-II card, is to read and post to the
    Apple II newsgroups using your real Apple II :)

    My Emai//er app supports NNTP news, and I use it with Eternal September.
    Any NNTP newsserver should work though.

    I also get fed up with the Italian spam messages, so I implemented a
    kill-file. It works quite well, provided I update it periodically.

    Emai//er lives here: https://github.com/bobbimanners/emailler/releases

    Enjoy!

    All the best,
    Bobbi

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  • From Scott Alfter@21:1/5 to bobbi.8bit@gmail.com on Wed Oct 13 18:20:36 2021
    In article <00048-bobbi.8bit@gmail.com>, <bobbi.8bit@gmail.com> wrote:
    I also get fed up with the Italian spam messages, so I implemented a >kill-file. It works quite well, provided I update it periodically.

    These are the entries I have in trn's global killfile for dealing with the Italian spammer...modify appropriately for other newsreaders:

    /ASSASSINO/:j
    /PEDOFIL/:j
    /FIGLIO/:j
    /AVVOCATO/:j
    /PEDERASTA/:j
    /BAMBINI/:j
    /MAFIOS/:j
    /PUTTANA/:j
    /CULO/:j
    /SATANISTA/:j
    /COCAINOMANE/:j
    /ASSASSINI/:j
    /TERRORISTI/:j

    _/_
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    (IIGS( https://alfter.us/ Top-posting!
    \_^_/ >What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?

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  • From Raymond Wiker@21:1/5 to qkumba on Thu Oct 14 06:48:52 2021
    qkumba <peter.ferrie@gmail.com> writes:

    which I called "The Italian Filter"

    Missed opportunity to call it "The Italian Job". :-)

    "The Italian Nutjob"?

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Raymond Wiker on Thu Oct 14 18:25:23 2021
    On 2021-10-14 04:48:52 +0000, Raymond Wiker said:

    qkumba <peter.ferrie@gmail.com> writes:

    which I called "The Italian Filter"

    Missed opportunity to call it "The Italian Job". :-)

    "The Italian Nutjob"?

    That's already a cocktail. <http://www.completecocktails.com/Drinks/ItalianNutJob.aspx>

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