Hi all,

I am a computer enthousiast and always like to learn or discover
something new.

I'd like to start with transputers, the OCCAM programming etc.

I like real hardware better than emulators, can't explain why, that's
just how it is.

What configuration should I look for?

Thanks,

Guillaume.

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Hi!

Transputer hardware is rare and meanwhile expensive. To make a first step you can use a AVM ISDN Controller B1 PCI with a T400 (~EUR 50 on eBay) in a 32-bit Windows PC (XP or higher).

C:\Transputer\d72uni>rspy -l -m
# Part rt Link0 Link1 Link2 Link3 RAM@cycle
0 T400C 20 391K ... ... ... 2K@1,1022K@3.

BUT: This is only a single Transputer with few memory. The interface speed is slow/medium. Serious Occam compiling on this hardware may be not possible in 1MB. No FPU.

On the other side, you can compile C/Occam with Gavins jserver and run your program on the real hardware. Assembler programming is always an option.

Maybe the old DOS cross-compiler versions are also possible, but I never used it.

If you found one AVM card and you are not sure, send me a short mail and I can check it. I can supply you with the required software for Windows. Linux support for this AVM interface would be possible but I don't know it such an driver exists.

Kind regards
Mike from transputer.net (there you can find my email address)

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The same apply to the AVM ISDN-Controller B1 PCMCIA

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Am Samstag, 29. Februar 2020 12:24:54 UTC+1 schrieb Arachide:

Hi all,

Hi Guillaume,

I am a computer enthousiast and always like to learn or discover
something new.

I'd like to start with transputers, the OCCAM programming etc.

in this case you will discover the past/old. ;)

I like real hardware better than emulators, can't explain why, that's
just how it is.

Like me. :)

What configuration should I look for?

As Mike wrote the quickest way is grabbing a AVM card and play with it. Fortunately I did some work to use the card on linux.

https://gitlab.com/tinkercnc/INMOS-Link-Driver/-/tree/avm-pci_multi-link-driver ... but it's still alpha.

Guillaume.

Matsche

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Le 29/02/2020 à 17:35, Mike B. a écrit :

AVM ISDN-Controller B1 PCMCIA

Thanks for the reply.
Sure those cards are not too expensive.
Is it possible to plug two of them in a PC and have them working in
parallel ?

Guillaume.

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Am Montag, 2. März 2020 09:52:39 UTC+1 schrieb Arachide:

Le 29/02/2020 à 17:35, Mike B. a écrit :
Sure those cards are not too expensive.
Is it possible to plug two of them in a PC and have them working in parallel ?

Not now.
There are still some issues. But I'm working on it.

And here is a important piece of software for using many tools on Mike's site:

https://gitlab.com/tinkercnc/transputer-iserver-64bit.git

And here the famous ispy for linux:

https://gitlab.com/tinkercnc/transputer-ispy.git

Further infos follows. :)

Have fun!

Guillaume.

Matsche

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Hi!

Is it possible to plug two of them in a PC and have them working in
parallel ?

No. There is no link connection between these two transputers. Maybe with some rework. But not worth the effort.

-Mike

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Am Montag, 2. März 2020 13:02:08 UTC+1 schrieb Mike B.:

Hi!

Is it possible to plug two of them in a PC and have them working in parallel ?

No. There is no link connection between these two transputers. Maybe with some rework. But not worth the effort.

-Mike

Hey Mike, not so gloomy! :)

Here is a example of one of my mods:

https://gitlab.com/tinkercnc/INMOS-Link-Driver/-/wikis/AVM-B1-PCMCIA-Mod

It's a cool notebook transputer interface/terminal.

Matsche

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Hi again,

I have seen some TRAM modules on Ebay:

Pointez sur l'image pour zoomer Inmos-transputeur-IMST-805B-G25S-Tramway-Module-IMS-B426-16B

Where do they plug?

Guillaume.

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Hi!

Dual-In-Line Transputer Modules (TRAMs) http://www.transputer.net/tn/29/tn29.html http://www.transputer.net/tn/29/tn29.pdf

Module motherboard architecture
http://www.transputer.net/tn/49/tn49.html http://www.transputer.net/tn/49/tn49.pdf

Transputer Development and iq Systems Databook http://www.transputer.net/ibooks/72-trn-219-01/book.asp (TOC only) http://www.transputer.net/ibooks/72-trn-219-01/iqsys2nd.pdf

Module Guides & Manuals
http://www.transputer.net/mg/mg.asp

KR Mike

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... and the thrill has gone.

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Le 29/02/2020 à 17:28, Mike B. a écrit :

Hi!

Transputer hardware is rare and meanwhile expensive. To make a first step you can use a AVM ISDN Controller B1 PCI with a T400 (~EUR 50 on eBay) in a 32-bit Windows PC (XP or higher).

C:\Transputer\d72uni>rspy -l -m
# Part rt Link0 Link1 Link2 Link3 RAM@cycle
0 T400C 20 391K ... ... ... 2K@1,1022K@3.

BUT: This is only a single Transputer with few memory. The interface speed is slow/medium. Serious Occam compiling on this hardware may be not possible in 1MB. No FPU.

On the other side, you can compile C/Occam with Gavins jserver and run your program on the real hardware. Assembler programming is always an option.

Maybe the old DOS cross-compiler versions are also possible, but I never used it.

If you found one AVM card and you are not sure, send me a short mail and I can check it. I can supply you with the required software for Windows. Linux support for this AVM interface would be possible but I don't know it such an driver exists.

Kind regards
Mike from transputer.net (there you can find my email address)

Hi again !

I have found an old PC with PCI slots. Now, I am looking at Ebay offers
to get the T400 board.

I will tell you if I can find one to get the Windows Software.
If I remember well, this old PC runs Windows XP. Is it ok?

Thanks by advance,

Guillaume.

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I have found an old PC with PCI slots. Now, I am looking at Ebay offers
to get the T400 board.

I will tell you if I can find one to get the Windows Software.
If I remember well, this old PC runs Windows XP. Is it ok?

Use it with linux and my driver modifikation.
Than it works with dosemu.
Starting with the -s (su user) switch and
in /etc/dosemu/dosemu.conf add :

$_ports = "device /dev/link0 range 0x0d040,(0x0d040+64)"

Most of the transputer software works under MSDOS.

Matsche

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Hi!

runs Windows XP. Is it ok?

No problem.

I've running all compiler and tools (except helios server which is not finished yet) under Windows natively. Nothing in DOS or in a VDM.

-Mike

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Am Dienstag, 10. März 2020 12:50:13 UTC+1 schrieb Mike B.:

Hi!

runs Windows XP. Is it ok?

No problem.

I've running all compiler and tools (except helios server which is not finished yet) under Windows natively. Nothing in DOS or in a VDM.

-Mike

Really?

With the AVM B1 PCI card?

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Hi arachide ! Welcome to transputer's fun Word!

If you find a pc with some Isa slot ( Pentium 100 to 200mhz for exemple) you Can find some AVM b1 isa v2 or v3 for 5€ ( on eBay.de)

PS : are you French ?

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Et ben comme ça on est au moins 2 français à encore bricoler du Transputer ;)


I still have 2 or 3 transputer in operation here, visible on my site: http://www.retroc.atreia.fr/?page_id=165
It is mainly hardware from the manufacturer parsytec, with parsytec documentation.

Damien

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Le 11/03/2020 à 10:40, carlier.damien@gmail.com a écrit :

Hi arachide ! Welcome to transputer's fun Word!

If you find a pc with some Isa slot ( Pentium 100 to 200mhz for exemple) you Can find some AVM b1 isa v2 or v3 for 5€ ( on eBay.de)

PS : are you French ?

Yes I am !

I have found a PCI card with a T400. When looking at my old PC, I found
only PCI slots, it looks like I threw the oldest ones with the ISA slots.

I will receive it soon and try some programming on it.

Guillaume.

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Am Mittwoch, 11. März 2020 13:55:13 UTC+1 schrieb carlie...@gmail.com:

Et ben comme ça on est au moins 2 français à encore bricoler du Transputer ;)

I still have 2 or 3 transputer in operation here, visible on my site: http://www.retroc.atreia.fr/?page_id=165
It is mainly hardware from the manufacturer parsytec, with parsytec documentation.

Damien

Wow!

I am going green with envy! :)

Very impressive!

Matsche

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Le 10/03/2020 à 14:19, B419 a écrit :

Am Dienstag, 10. März 2020 12:50:13 UTC+1 schrieb Mike B.:

Hi!

runs Windows XP. Is it ok?

No problem.

I've running all compiler and tools (except helios server which is not finished yet) under Windows natively. Nothing in DOS or in a VDM.

-Mike

Really?

With the AVM B1 PCI card?

I can confirm.

I have received the AVM B1 PCI Card.
It has a T425C on it.

Mike helped me step by step for the installation under Windows XP.
Everything works, I have tried C-compiling and executing and also OCCAM.
Both work !

Guillaume.

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Am Dienstag, 17. März 2020 16:47:52 UTC+1 schrieb Arachide:

Le 10/03/2020 à 14:19, B419 a écrit :

Am Dienstag, 10. März 2020 12:50:13 UTC+1 schrieb Mike B.:

Hi!

runs Windows XP. Is it ok?

No problem.

I've running all compiler and tools (except helios server which is not finished yet) under Windows natively. Nothing in DOS or in a VDM.

-Mike

Really?

With the AVM B1 PCI card?

I can confirm.

I have received the AVM B1 PCI Card.
It has a T425C on it.

Mike helped me step by step for the installation under Windows XP.
Everything works, I have tried C-compiling and executing and also OCCAM. Both work !

Guillaume.

Aha!

And what then, is the point of this group?
Telling that i know it how but I'm not saying it how?

So long!

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Le 17/03/2020 à 17:28, B419 a écrit :

Aha!

And what then, is the point of this group?
Telling that i know it how but I'm not saying it how?

So long!

You didn't ask ! ;-)

Ah ah.

To be serious, I wouldn't like to try to explain an installation that I
don't fully understand. I have just applied what I've been told.

Guillaume.

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Am Dienstag, 17. März 2020 18:27:08 UTC+1 schrieb Arachide:

Le 17/03/2020 à 17:28, B419 a écrit :

Aha!

And what then, is the point of this group?
Telling that i know it how but I'm not saying it how?

So long!

You didn't ask ! ;-)

Ah ah.

To be serious, I wouldn't like to try to explain an installation that I don't fully understand. I have just applied what I've been told.

Guillaume.

Every spring thousands of narcissus in bloom all around...

keep healthy...

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A T425C and not a T400 on an AVM B1 PCI v3.0? strange and cool! all those that we see on ebay have a T400!

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damn me who always thought that the AVM PCI did not work, it's stupid, there are still a few months we found it like 5 € on ebay...

yes take care of yourself

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can you post an Ispy output from avm B1 here? just to see if the perf are better than the ISA version?

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Le 17/03/2020 à 21:21, carlier.damien@gmail.com a écrit :

A T425C and not a T400 on an AVM B1 PCI v3.0? strange and cool! all those that we see on ebay have a T400!

Yep!

On the box, the picture is this : https://gtello.pagesperso-orange.fr/temp/box.jpg

With a T400

But inside, here is what I got: https://gtello.pagesperso-orange.fr/temp/real.jpg

With a T425

Guillaume.

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Le 17/03/2020 à 21:32, carlier.damien@gmail.com a écrit :

can you post an Ispy output from avm B1 here? just to see if the perf are better than the ISA version?

Yes! What parameters should I give to RSPY ?

Guillaume.

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just try > Rspy | mtest

a AVM B1 V1.0 output with no mod give :

ispy | mtest Using 150 ispy 3.21 | mtest 3.21

# Part rate Link# [ Link0 Link1 Link2 Link3 ] RAM,cycle
0 T400b-20 43k 0 [ HOST ... ... ... ] 2K,1 1022K,6.

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i fact i never use Rspy only ispy, but i think you can try something like :

timex rspy /M

http://www.transputer.net/sw/sw.asp
http://www.transputer.net/mg/rspy/rspy.pdf

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Le 17/03/2020 à 22:34, carlier.damien@gmail.com a écrit :

i fact i never use Rspy only ispy, but i think you can try something like :

timex rspy /M

http://www.transputer.net/sw/sw.asp http://www.transputer.net/mg/rspy/rspy.pdf

C:\TRANSP\MINIX>rspy /m /f /l
# Part rt Link0 Link1 Link2 Link3 F.Test RAM@cycle
0 T425C 20 306K ... ... ... passed 4K@1,1020K@3.

Here is the report!

Guillaume.

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The transputer run at 20MHz and no 25 MHz (normal speed of a AVMB1)
The speed of ram are Nie, max speed possible (3 cycles)
The speed of Link0 are ok but maybee upgradable...

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The installation script is not so interesting, but here it is ...
I know that the name linkisa is confusing but covers all B004 polling boards regardless of the physical bus.

DevAVM1 = "Device LINKISA (AVM ISDN-Controller B1 PCI/T4)"
DevAVM2 = "Device LINKISA (AVM ISDN-Controller B1 PCI/StrongT)"
DevAVM3 = "Device LINKISA (AVM ISDN-Controller B1 PCMCIA)"
DevAVM4 = "Device LINKISA (AVM ISDN-Controller M2 PCMCIA)"
DevB004 = "Device LINKISA (IMS B004)"
DevB008 = "Device LINKISA (IMS B008)"
DevB020 = "Device LINKISA (IMS B020)"
DevGERL = "Device LINKISA (Gerlach)"


type inst.cmd
@echo off
@if not "%ECHO%"=="" echo %ECHO%
@if not "%OS%"=="Windows_NT" goto DOSEXIT

::------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:MAIN ::------------------------------------------------------------------------------

setlocal
set BASE=%~dp0
set BASE=%BASE:~0,-1%

::

set PATH=%PATH%;%BASE%\%PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE%

::
:: Association
::

assoc .btl=Transputer.Bootable.File
ftype Transputer.Bootable.File="%%ISERVER%%" /SB %%1 %%*

::
:: Prepare
::

if exist %SYSTEMROOT%\inf\avmisdn.inf ren %SYSTEMROOT%\inf\avmisdn.inf avmisdn.in_
if exist %SYSTEMROOT%\inf\avmisdn.pnf del %SYSTEMROOT%\inf\avmisdn.pnf

::
:: Cleanup old installations
::

for /F %%A in ('devcon.exe findall "@PCI\VEN_1244&DEV_0700&SUBSYS_00000000\*" ^| find /V "matching device"') do devcon.exe remove "@%%A"
for /F "tokens=1,2 delims=:" %%A in ('findstr.exe "{AD20C775-FB78-49be-8985-A64FB36CACC4}" %SYSTEMROOT%\inf\oem*.inf') do devcon.exe dp_delete "%%A:%%B"

::
:: Install new driver package
::

certmgr.exe /add "%BASE%\cert\transputer.net RootCA.crt" /s /r localMachine root
certmgr.exe /all /add "%BASE%\cert\CodeSigning2019.crt" /s /r localMachine trustedpublisher
copy /b "%BASE%\%PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE%\linkcls.dll" "%SYSTEMROOT%\system32"
devcon.exe dp_add "%BASE%\%PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE%\linkisa.inf"
:: devcon.exe rescan

::

endlocal
goto :EOF

::------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:DOSEXIT ::------------------------------------------------------------------------------

echo This script requires Windows NT

:: -=EOF=-


Directory of C:\install\cert

03/11/2020 12:46 PM <DIR> .
03/11/2020 12:46 PM <DIR> ..
09/04/2019 05:54 AM 1,910 CodeSigning2019.crt
09/11/2013 07:02 AM 1,485 transputer.net RootCA.crt
2 File(s) 3,395 bytes

Directory of C:\install\x86

03/11/2020 12:32 PM <DIR> .
03/11/2020 12:32 PM <DIR> ..
09/09/2008 05:38 PM 65,536 certmgr.exe
09/03/2008 07:25 AM 77,312 devcon.exe
09/04/2019 06:57 AM 41,608 linkcls.dll
09/04/2019 06:57 AM 6,932 linkisa.cat
09/04/2019 06:57 AM 13,960 linkisa.exe
09/04/2019 06:56 AM 6,272 linkisa.inf
09/04/2019 06:57 AM 12,936 linkisa.sys
7 File(s) 224,556 bytes

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