• Unable to boot up an old 15" MBP (2008)'s Mac OS X v10.5.8/Mt. Lion

    From Christian@21:1/5 to David B. on Sat Feb 18 16:57:41 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.system
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.systems

    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204904

    Probably not - since (s)he never comes to the point where a GUI is
    loaded...

    You could try to use "target mode" to access the drive in the MacBook
    from another computer - see <http://osxdaily.com/2010/04/07/how-to-boot-a-mac-in-target-disk-mode/>
    amd try to erase that disk completely before installing a new system on
    it.

    Christian

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Feb 18 14:33:12 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.system
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.systems

    On 18/02/2017 10:45, Ant wrote:
    Hi!

    I have a broken 15" MacBook Pro (early 2008) with its updated Mac OS X v10.5.8/Mountain Lion. I tried booting up this old MBP with these boot
    ups' keys and without connected USB devices (mouse and external hub):

    1. normal boot -- never reaches the user account screen. It stays stuck
    in Apple logo's loading screen with its spinning wait icon.

    2. shift -- never reaches the user account screen. It stays stuck in
    Apple logo's loading screen with its spinning wait icon.

    3. command+v (verbose) = saw the text mode with technical datas. Then,
    it loaded the light blue screen for about a second and then back to text black screen with a white block on the top left corner. Then back to
    light blue screen to the black text screen with the top left white block
    in a loop forever.

    4. command+s (single-user mode) = got to its text bash prompt, but not
    sure what to do here to dig deeper and fix. Need experts' help if I need
    to use it. At least, this is usable.

    5. command+r (recovery) = It stays stuck in Apple logo's loading screen
    with its spinning wait icon. No OS X Utilities like in newer mac OSes. I don't think Mac OS X v10.5.8 has this feature IIRC.

    6. d (diagnostics) = Short test passed after about three minutes. It is
    now running a long test which will take about 1.5 hours. Isn't this just memory tests?

    7. option-d (online diagnostics) = It stays stuck in Apple logo's
    loading screen with its spinning wait icon. I don't think it has that feature.

    8. Option-Command-P-R (Reset NVRAM) = Heard a beep and saw bright screen
    and heard loud volume as resets, but it did not fix the boot up issue.

    I am trying to figure out if this is hardware or a software issue. :(
    Any other ideas to try? I don't see how Apcupsd-3.14.14 could break it
    that badly. Earlier, I downloaded and installed https://sourceforge.net/projects/apcupsd/files/osx-binaries%20-%20Stable/3.14.14/'s
    Apcupsd-3.14.14.dmg file into an old 15" MacBook Pro (2008) with its
    updated Leopard v10.5.8 since
    http://www.apcupsd.org/manual/manual.html#id37 says apcupsd supports Mac
    OS X v10.4.x and higher. However, I was unable to save auto-opened apcupsd.conf that I was required to edit due to lack of admin access
    even though I was using an admin account. So, I tried to edit /etc/apcupsd/apcupsd.conf in Terminal's with su and sudo commands but
    they said something about PAM. I said frak it and rebooted, but it won't
    boot up anymore. :(

    Thank you in advance. :)

    Might THIS be of help?

    How to reinstall macOS https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204904

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to ant@zimage.comANT on Sat Feb 18 11:11:39 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.system
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.systems

    In article <vN-dnSbtmeFXuDXFnZ2dnUU7-cfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    Hi!

    I have a broken 15" MacBook Pro (early 2008) with its updated Mac OS X v10.5.8/Mountain Lion. I tried booting up this old MBP with these boot
    ups' keys and without connected USB devices (mouse and external hub):

    do you mean 10.8.5, which is mountain lion? or do you really mean
    10.5.8, which is leopard?

    in any event, boot from an external hard drive that has a known good
    system. if *that* fails, it's probably hardware. if it works, then all
    you need to do is clean install.

    if it is hardware and you have the dvd that came with the computer, try
    booting while holding the d key down to run the hardware diagnostics
    for additional information.

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to Christian on Mon Feb 20 10:40:40 2017
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    XPost: comp.sys.mac.systems

    On 18/02/2017 15:57, Christian wrote:
    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204904

    Probably not - since (s)he never comes to the point where a GUI is
    loaded...

    OK - one can but try! ;-)

    You could try to use "target mode" to access the drive in the MacBook
    from another computer - see <http://osxdaily.com/2010/04/07/how-to-boot-a-mac-in-target-disk-mode/>
    amd try to erase that disk completely before installing a new system on
    it.

    That was an interesting link, Christian. Thank you.

    I tried to print the page when using Safari on my iMac. The header and
    footer information printed but the 'body' didn't print. Effectively just
    blank pages. Grrr!

    I then tried to print a 'daily killer suduku' - /that/ printed just
    fine! http://www.dailykillersudoku.com

    Puzzled, I opened Firefox and went to your link. All four pages printed
    without problem. Hmmm!

    Going back to Safari, no matter what I've tried so far, I can't get the
    pages at your link to print the 'body' of the pages. I have cleared all 'history' but still no change.

    Anything simple I may have missed?

    David B.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to David B. on Mon Feb 20 15:36:18 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware, comp.sys.mac.system
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.systems

    On 2017-02-20, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:
    On 18/02/2017 15:57, Christian wrote:

    You could try to use "target mode" to access the drive in the MacBook
    from another computer - see
    <http://osxdaily.com/2010/04/07/how-to-boot-a-mac-in-target-disk-mode/>
    amd try to erase that disk completely before installing a new system on
    it.

    That was an interesting link, Christian. Thank you.

    I tried to print the page when using Safari on my iMac. The header and
    footer information printed but the 'body' didn't print. Effectively just blank pages. Grrr!

    I then tried to print a 'daily killer suduku' - /that/ printed just
    fine! http://www.dailykillersudoku.com

    Puzzled, I opened Firefox and went to your link. All four pages printed without problem. Hmmm!

    Going back to Safari, no matter what I've tried so far, I can't get the
    pages at your link to print the 'body' of the pages. I have cleared all 'history' but still no change.

    Anything simple I may have missed?

    Prints (to PDF) just fine for me with Safari 10.0.3 in macOS 10.11.6.

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