Hi guys
I have an A-1000 box that is utterly and completely dead... on-off button does not give a ... whenever I press it....
unplugging cables etc does the same.. = nothing!

ANyonw with a spare part or an idea on how to fix this ?

regards
Niels

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Niels S. Eliasen <nse@delfi-konsult.com> wrote:

Hi guys
I have an A-1000 box that is utterly and completely dead... on-off button does not give a ... whenever I press it....
unplugging cables etc does the same.. = nothing!

ANyonw with a spare part or an idea on how to fix this ?

regards
Niels

I have to ask, but why?

If memory serves, that thing only had a total storage of 3.5TB max, needed a 15A source (@120V) and like 12,000 BTU output of heat.

Is the cabinet fully populated? It had dual power supplies, I think it could run off one but wanted to see both or something. They were hot swappable but wouldn't "turn on" unless both were in place (I think). Once the cabinet was
up and running, you could do the hot swap (run off one power supply).

I just don't see the use of such a beast these days.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

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On 2016-04-20, Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> wrote:

Niels S. Eliasen <nse@delfi-konsult.com> wrote:

Hi guys
I have an A-1000 box that is utterly and completely dead... on-off button does not give a ... whenever I press it....
unplugging cables etc does the same.. = nothing!

ANyonw with a spare part or an idea on how to fix this ?

regards
Niels

I have to ask, but why?

If memory serves, that thing only had a total storage of 3.5TB max, needed a 15A source (@120V) and like 12,000 BTU output of heat.

Is the cabinet fully populated? It had dual power supplies, I think it could run off one but wanted to see both or something. They were hot swappable but wouldn't "turn on" unless both were in place (I think). Once the cabinet was up and running, you could do the hot swap (run off one power supply).

I just don't see the use of such a beast these days.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

Well I think most Americans don't realize how much 10 or 20 year old tech
boat anchors cost elsewhere. Whatever we scrounge we generally try to live with it. Because most of the time we have no alternative and with a name like
Neils he can probably heat part of his house most of the year, so don't know the BTUs.

Could be the op lives abroad and can't just grab a pallet of storage arrays pulls off ebay for 10 bux and 25 bux shipping. Believe me I know the feeling.

So be gentle and help if you can :-)

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invalid <address@is.invalid> wrote:

Well I think most Americans don't realize how much 10 or 20 year old tech boat anchors cost elsewhere. Whatever we scrounge we generally try to live with
it. Because most of the time we have no alternative and with a name like Neils he can probably heat part of his house most of the year, so don't know the BTUs.

Could be the op lives abroad and can't just grab a pallet of storage arrays pulls off ebay for 10 bux and 25 bux shipping. Believe me I know the feeling.

So be gentle and help if you can :-)

Well there are boat anchors then there are real boat anchors and I think the A1000 cabinet is definetly a real boat anchor.

It's not even a networked cabinet, fine if you have a machine with an
external scsi hookup, but except for being a raid box, I can't think of anything else good to say about it.

If it was in 100% working order (which it seems it is not), there could be
some learning experience to be learned hooking it up, but if any money at
all is needed to be put into it, I just can't see it.

That's why I asked about the configuration, if there are 0 drives and no
power supply modules, what't the choice then?

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

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On 2016-04-21, Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> wrote:

invalid <address@is.invalid> wrote:

Well I think most Americans don't realize how much 10 or 20 year old tech
boat anchors cost elsewhere. Whatever we scrounge we generally try to live with
it. Because most of the time we have no alternative and with a name like
Neils he can probably heat part of his house most of the year, so don't know >> the BTUs.

Could be the op lives abroad and can't just grab a pallet of storage arrays >> pulls off ebay for 10 bux and 25 bux shipping. Believe me I know the feeling.

So be gentle and help if you can :-)

Well there are boat anchors then there are real boat anchors and I think the A1000 cabinet is definetly a real boat anchor.

It's not even a networked cabinet, fine if you have a machine with an external scsi hookup, but except for being a raid box, I can't think of anything else good to say about it.

If it was in 100% working order (which it seems it is not), there could be some learning experience to be learned hooking it up, but if any money at
all is needed to be put into it, I just can't see it.

That's why I asked about the configuration, if there are 0 drives and no power supply modules, what't the choice then?

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

hi guys
it is an anchor... BUT... it is fully populated... and I could do with the system
as a 3.rd line of defence(backup wise)...

but otherwise I agree completely
but then again.. I can take all the disks and put them into the Sparc server standing next
to the A-1000 ....

Anyhow thanks for the feedback. just wondered if there was a quickfix...

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On 04/21/16 16:44, Niels S. Eliasen wrote:

On 2016-04-21, Bruce Esquibel<bje@ripco.com> wrote:

invalid<address@is.invalid> wrote:

Well I think most Americans don't realize how much 10 or 20 year old tech >>> boat anchors cost elsewhere. Whatever we scrounge we generally try to live with
it. Because most of the time we have no alternative and with a name like >>> Neils he can probably heat part of his house most of the year, so don't know
the BTUs.

Could be the op lives abroad and can't just grab a pallet of storage arrays >>> pulls off ebay for 10 bux and 25 bux shipping. Believe me I know the feeling.

So be gentle and help if you can :-)

Well there are boat anchors then there are real boat anchors and I think the >> A1000 cabinet is definetly a real boat anchor.

It's not even a networked cabinet, fine if you have a machine with an
external scsi hookup, but except for being a raid box, I can't think of
anything else good to say about it.

If it was in 100% working order (which it seems it is not), there could be >> some learning experience to be learned hooking it up, but if any money at
all is needed to be put into it, I just can't see it.

That's why I asked about the configuration, if there are 0 drives and no
power supply modules, what't the choice then?

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

hi guys
it is an anchor... BUT... it is fully populated... and I could do with the system
as a 3.rd line of defence(backup wise)...

but otherwise I agree completely
but then again.. I can take all the disks and put them into the Sparc server standing next
to the A-1000 ....

Anyhow thanks for the feedback. just wondered if there was a quickfix...

One think to be aware of is that the A1000 interface is hvd,
high voltage (5v) differential scsi, not the later and more
usual lvd interface. Adaptec and others make a pci card
and there are sun pci and S-bus cards as well. Best not
to connect that box to an lvd controller, as you can fry one
or both of them. Fwir, they are simple jbod arrays, with no
smart controller. Power consumption ~100 watts with a few
drives in the box, so not too serious.

I think I have a couple of those boxes in store, free if you
can collect them from the UK. Also may have some dec lvd <> hvd
adapters as well...

Regards,

Chris

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On 2016-07-23, Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> wrote:

On 04/21/16 16:44, Niels S. Eliasen wrote:

On 2016-04-21, Bruce Esquibel<bje@ripco.com> wrote:

invalid<address@is.invalid> wrote:

[ ... ]

If it was in 100% working order (which it seems it is not), there could be >>> some learning experience to be learned hooking it up, but if any money at >>> all is needed to be put into it, I just can't see it.

That's why I asked about the configuration, if there are 0 drives and no >>> power supply modules, what't the choice then?

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

hi guys
it is an anchor... BUT... it is fully populated... and I could do with the system
as a 3.rd line of defence(backup wise)...

but otherwise I agree completely
but then again.. I can take all the disks and put them into the Sparc server standing next
to the A-1000 ....

Anyhow thanks for the feedback. just wondered if there was a quickfix...

One think to be aware of is that the A1000 interface is hvd,
high voltage (5v) differential scsi, not the later and more
usual lvd interface. Adaptec and others make a pci card
and there are sun pci and S-bus cards as well. Best not
to connect that box to an lvd controller, as you can fry one
or both of them. Fwir, they are simple jbod arrays, with no
smart controller. Power consumption ~100 watts with a few
drives in the box, so not too serious.

Now that I remember what an A1000 is ... :-)

There are two versions of that -- with the 1000 number but a
different letter in front. One is hardware RAID, the other is JBOD, and
one can be converted to the other by changing the backplane. I got one
of the RAID ones, and did not know how to configure it, but found the
alternate backplane on eBAy, and that turned it into two 6-drive JBODs,
which could be set up so with a jumper cable between the output side of
the first section and the input side of the second, could have
non-conflicting SCSI IDs for each drive.

O.K. The D1000 is the dual JBOD -- and the backplane I talked
about plugs in above the two hot-swap power supplies.

The plug-in card which makes it a dual JBOD is 375-0008. There
were several version of the RAID board, with them being: 375-0007,
375-0015, 375-0016, 375-0134, 375-0135, and 375-0136. There is also a
plug-in battery to keep the RAID info set up during power outages,
370-3553. You need some kind of password to configure one of those,
while the D1000 has no problems, being a JBOD.

Search for document 805-2624, which:

====================================================================== Provides installation, configuration information and service procedures
to customers and service personnel for the Sun StorEdge A1000 and D1000 systems.
======================================================================

I think I have a couple of those boxes in store, free if you
can collect them from the UK. Also may have some dec lvd <> hvd
adapters as well...

Good Luck,
DoN.

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