• What's a good SSD to replace a 15" mid-2008 MBP(model A1260)'s HDD?

    From Ant@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 22 01:06:40 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260
    ?

    Thank you in advance. :)
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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to Ant on Wed Feb 22 10:18:02 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 22/02/2017 09:06, Ant wrote:
    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260 ?

    Thank you in advance. :)

    Hello Ant

    I've used Crucial for RAM for many years. I've never had a problem with
    the product nor the company.

    HTH

    David B.

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  • From David Empson@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Feb 23 00:06:50 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.system

    (As I noticed this time: invalid groups comp.sys.mac.portable and comp.sys.mac.hardware removed, followups set to the ONE most appropriate
    group, which is how you should have done the original post.)

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260

    I've installed a Crucial SSD in a few 2007-2012 Mac models and they have
    been working fine for more than a year in all cases. The Crucial SSD
    models I've used include the BX100 (predecessor of the BX200) and MX200.
    The latter has been superseded by the MX300 which I haven't tried yet.

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to David Empson on Wed Feb 22 11:59:54 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 22/02/2017 11:06, David Empson wrote:
    (As I noticed this time: invalid groups comp.sys.mac.portable and comp.sys.mac.hardware removed, followups set to the ONE most appropriate group, which is how you should have done the original post.)

    For how long have you been in charge of deciding which groups Usenet
    posters may select, Mr Empson?

    By taking the action you have, you will be preventing those folk viewing
    groups /other/ than 'com.sys.mac.hardware.storage' from reading
    responses. Accordingly, 'comp.sys.mac.system' has been re-instated.

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if
    possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in
    http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260

    I've installed a Crucial SSD in a few 2007-2012 Mac models and they have
    been working fine for more than a year in all cases. The Crucial SSD
    models I've used include the BX100 (predecessor of the BX200) and MX200.
    The latter has been superseded by the MX300 which I haven't tried yet.

    No doubt 'Ant' will be heartened to learn of your successes.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to ant@zimage.comANT on Wed Feb 22 11:07:19 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <9KqdnTcrwPsDyTDFnZ2dnUU7-KPNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260 ?


    for that mac, you want crucial due to firmware issues with the ata
    controller.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Ant on Wed Feb 22 15:43:51 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2017-02-22, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260 ?

    Thank you in advance. :)

    I've been using Crucial- and OWC-branded SSDs for years with good
    results. Here's a link to OWC's offerings:

    <https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ssd/owc>

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Feb 22 16:16:19 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2017-02-22, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <9KqdnTcrwPsDyTDFnZ2dnUU7-KPNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
    <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if
    possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in
    http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260
    ?


    for that mac, you want crucial due to firmware issues with the ata controller.

    Or OWC...

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Wed Feb 22 11:21:30 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <eh5rqjFsl3mU6@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if >> possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in

    http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A12
    60
    ?


    for that mac, you want crucial due to firmware issues with the ata controller.

    Or OWC...

    crucial is a much better choice and also less expensive.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Feb 22 16:22:44 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2017-02-22, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <eh5rqjFsl3mU6@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
    <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if >> >> possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in

    http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A12
    60
    ?


    for that mac, you want crucial due to firmware issues with the ata
    controller.

    Or OWC...

    crucial is a much better choice

    Why?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Wed Feb 22 11:45:42 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <eh5s6kFsl3mU8@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too >> >> if possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in

    http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260

    for that mac, you want crucial due to firmware issues with the ata
    controller.

    Or OWC...

    crucial is a much better choice

    Why?

    owc is a house brand with an unknown controller.

    crucial is an established name brand who makes their own memory and
    whose ssd controllers are known to not have firmware issues with the
    ata chips in some older macs (and pcs for that matter which use the
    same chipset).

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to David B. on Wed Feb 22 09:04:45 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2/22/2017 2:18 AM, David B. wrote:
    On 22/02/2017 09:06, Ant wrote:
    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if
    possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in
    http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260

    ?

    Thank you in advance. :)

    Hello Ant

    I've used Crucial for RAM for many years. I've never had a problem with
    the product nor the company.

    What about its SSDs?
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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to Ant on Wed Feb 22 17:33:10 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 22/02/2017 17:04, Ant wrote:
    On 2/22/2017 2:18 AM, David B. wrote:
    On 22/02/2017 09:06, Ant wrote:
    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if >>> possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in
    http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260


    ?

    Thank you in advance. :)

    Hello Ant

    I've used Crucial for RAM for many years. I've never had a problem with
    the product nor the company.

    What about its SSDs?

    I don't have an SSD in _any_ of my equipment, so cannot advise.

    Sorry about that!
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Feb 22 17:31:49 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2017-02-22, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <eh5s6kFsl3mU8@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
    <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a >> >> >> good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too >> >> >> if possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in

    http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260

    for that mac, you want crucial due to firmware issues with the ata
    controller.

    Or OWC...

    crucial is a much better choice

    Why?

    owc is a house brand with an unknown controller.

    So what? How does this make it worse choice exactly? My OWC SSDs have
    run just fine for years with different model Macs.

    crucial is an established name brand who makes their own memory and
    whose ssd controllers are known to not have firmware issues with the
    ata chips in some older macs (and pcs for that matter which use the
    same chipset).

    Have OWC SSDs had firmware issues? Citation please.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Wed Feb 22 13:37:07 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <eh6085Fu1d3U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Or OWC...

    crucial is a much better choice

    Why?

    owc is a house brand with an unknown controller.

    So what? How does this make it worse choice exactly? My OWC SSDs have
    run just fine for years with different model Macs.

    crucial is an established name brand who makes their own memory and
    whose ssd controllers are known to not have firmware issues with the
    ata chips in some older macs (and pcs for that matter which use the
    same chipset).

    Have OWC SSDs had firmware issues? Citation please.

    the issue is that certain ssd controllers and nvidia sata chipsets will
    not negotiate the maximum link speed. it will still work, but not at
    optimal speeds.

    crucial uses their own controller and is known to not have problems, at
    least with the mx series of ssds. i'm not sure about bx, but the price difference isn't cheap enough to bother with bx, even if it does work.

    owc does not disclose which controller they use (that i can find), but
    it's likely sandforce, which is commonly used many ssds. unfortunately sandforce *does* have issues with nvidia sata chipsets.

    later macs (and pcs) don't have this issue, in which case, samsung is
    also a good choice.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid on Wed Feb 22 13:37:08 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <rXjrA.556906$Yc1.493533@fx28.fr7>, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:


    I don't have an SSD in _any_ of my equipment, so cannot advise.

    it's time to change that. the difference versus a hard drive is
    staggering.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Feb 22 19:06:36 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2017-02-22, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <eh6085Fu1d3U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
    <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    Or OWC...

    crucial is a much better choice

    Why?

    owc is a house brand with an unknown controller.

    So what? How does this make it worse choice exactly? My OWC SSDs have
    run just fine for years with different model Macs.

    crucial is an established name brand who makes their own memory and
    whose ssd controllers are known to not have firmware issues with the
    ata chips in some older macs (and pcs for that matter which use the
    same chipset).

    Have OWC SSDs had firmware issues? Citation please.

    the issue is that certain ssd controllers and nvidia sata chipsets will
    not negotiate the maximum link speed. it will still work, but not at
    optimal speeds.

    crucial uses their own controller and is known to not have problems, at
    least with the mx series of ssds. i'm not sure about bx, but the price difference isn't cheap enough to bother with bx, even if it does work.

    owc does not disclose which controller they use (that i can find), but
    it's likely sandforce, which is commonly used many ssds. unfortunately sandforce *does* have issues with nvidia sata chipsets.

    Pretty sure OWC does use SandForce controllers.

    later macs (and pcs) don't have this issue, in which case, samsung is
    also a good choice.

    I guess that explains why I haven't seen any performance issues with my
    OWC SSDs.

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Feb 22 19:29:00 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 22/02/2017 18:37, nospam wrote:
    In article <rXjrA.556906$Yc1.493533@fx28.fr7>, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:


    I don't have an SSD in _any_ of my equipment, so cannot advise.

    it's time to change that. the difference versus a hard drive is
    staggering.

    I'll bear that in mind. Thank you. :-)

    Have you any personal experience of replacing a hard drive in an iMac
    with an SSD?

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to David B. on Wed Feb 22 12:31:21 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    I've used Crucial for RAM for many years. I've never had a problem with
    the product nor the company.

    I've had Crucial DIMMs go bad on me twice.

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to Neill Massello on Wed Feb 22 19:38:06 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 22/02/2017 19:31, Neill Massello wrote:
    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    I've used Crucial for RAM for many years. I've never had a problem with
    the product nor the company.

    I've had Crucial DIMMs go bad on me twice.

    Oh dear. :-(

    Did Crucial replace them quickly and without charge?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid on Wed Feb 22 14:42:47 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <1ElrA.503615$8w1.206346@fx02.fr7>, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    I don't have an SSD in _any_ of my equipment, so cannot advise.

    it's time to change that. the difference versus a hard drive is
    staggering.

    I'll bear that in mind. Thank you. :-)

    Have you any personal experience of replacing a hard drive in an iMac
    with an SSD?

    imacs are a pain in the ass to open up.

    find the one you have and decide if you want to proceed with it: <https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iMac>

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to nmassello@yahoo.com on Wed Feb 22 14:42:48 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <1n1uleo.1dubddsu5ox9aN%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:


    I've used Crucial for RAM for many years. I've never had a problem with
    the product nor the company.

    I've had Crucial DIMMs go bad on me twice.

    so what? they'll replace it without issue.

    nothing is perfect.

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to David B. on Wed Feb 22 12:44:13 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Have you any personal experience of replacing a hard drive in an iMac
    with an SSD?

    Not an iMac, but a 2012 Mac mini. Replacing the internal 5400rpm HDD
    with an SSD, the speed improvement was . . . staggering. This was
    running 10.11, although reports are that results are similar with any OS version from 10.9 onward.

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  • From Davoud@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 22 15:20:00 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    Neill Massello:
    I've had Crucial DIMMs go bad on me twice.

    Oops! Sorry!

    I don't know that I have bought Crucial RAM, but I installed Crucial
    1TB SSDs in two precious 17" MB Pros more than a year ago and they're
    both going strong.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Neill Massello on Wed Feb 22 17:28:48 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2/22/2017 11:44 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Have you any personal experience of replacing a hard drive in an iMac
    with an SSD?

    Not an iMac, but a 2012 Mac mini. Replacing the internal 5400rpm HDD
    with an SSD, the speed improvement was . . . staggering. This was
    running 10.11, although reports are that results are similar with any OS version from 10.9 onward.

    What about v10.8.5/Mountain Lion?
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Feb 23 02:33:05 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2017-02-23, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    On 2/22/2017 11:44 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Have you any personal experience of replacing a hard drive in an iMac
    with an SSD?

    Not an iMac, but a 2012 Mac mini. Replacing the internal 5400rpm HDD
    with an SSD, the speed improvement was . . . staggering. This was
    running 10.11, although reports are that results are similar with any OS
    version from 10.9 onward.

    What about v10.8.5/Mountain Lion?

    SSDs work just fine in any recent version of macOS, including 10.8. The
    speed increase will be substantial regardless of what version macOS is installed.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to ant@zimage.comANT on Wed Feb 22 23:12:03 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <4u6dnVw8w7papzPFnZ2dnUU7-cudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    Have you any personal experience of replacing a hard drive in an iMac
    with an SSD?

    Not an iMac, but a 2012 Mac mini. Replacing the internal 5400rpm HDD
    with an SSD, the speed improvement was . . . staggering. This was
    running 10.11, although reports are that results are similar with any OS version from 10.9 onward.

    What about v10.8.5/Mountain Lion?

    the os version makes absolutely no difference. that's like asking if a
    hard drive work with mountain lion. of course it would.

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to David B. on Thu Feb 23 00:04:43 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Did Crucial replace them quickly and without charge?

    Yes. But in one case, they required that the entire retail set (three
    sticks) be returned as a unit for replacement, even though only one of
    the DIMMs was bad. OWC has a somewhat friendlier cross-ship policy.

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Feb 23 00:28:01 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    What about v10.8.5/Mountain Lion?

    I can't offer a lot in the way of personal experience for HDD versus SSD
    with 10.8, as I switched to an SSD for the startup and applications
    drive in the 10.5 era and didn't run subsequent versions on an HDD
    until my Pro died in May 2016. An SSD provides a significant speed boost
    for any OS version; but with recent versions, it means the difference
    between performance that's quite snappy and performance that's
    borderline excruciating.

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to Neill Massello on Thu Feb 23 17:00:15 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 23/02/2017 07:04, Neill Massello wrote:
    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Did Crucial replace them quickly and without charge?

    Yes. But in one case, they required that the entire retail set (three
    sticks) be returned as a unit for replacement, even though only one of
    the DIMMs was bad. OWC has a somewhat friendlier cross-ship policy.

    OK. Thanks Neill. :-)

    Btw, WHICH Apple products take THREE sticks of RAM?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to David B. on Thu Feb 23 17:03:36 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2017-02-23, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:
    On 23/02/2017 07:04, Neill Massello wrote:
    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Did Crucial replace them quickly and without charge?

    Yes. But in one case, they required that the entire retail set (three
    sticks) be returned as a unit for replacement, even though only one of
    the DIMMs was bad. OWC has a somewhat friendlier cross-ship policy.

    OK. Thanks Neill. :-)

    Btw, WHICH Apple products take THREE sticks of RAM?

    Go to http://everymac.com and find out.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to David B. on Thu Feb 23 18:10:02 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2017-02-23, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:
    On 23/02/2017 17:03, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2017-02-23, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:
    On 23/02/2017 07:04, Neill Massello wrote:
    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Did Crucial replace them quickly and without charge?

    Yes. But in one case, they required that the entire retail set (three
    sticks) be returned as a unit for replacement, even though only one of >>>> the DIMMs was bad. OWC has a somewhat friendlier cross-ship policy.

    OK. Thanks Neill. :-)

    Btw, WHICH Apple products take THREE sticks of RAM?

    Go to http://everymac.com and find out.

    Thank you for pointing me in that direction, Roger! :-)

    I've read here:- http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/faq/powermac-g5-memory-type-supported-number-of-ram-slots.html

    That's only the G5s, but yeah.

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Feb 23 17:24:28 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 23/02/2017 17:03, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2017-02-23, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:
    On 23/02/2017 07:04, Neill Massello wrote:
    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Did Crucial replace them quickly and without charge?

    Yes. But in one case, they required that the entire retail set (three
    sticks) be returned as a unit for replacement, even though only one of
    the DIMMs was bad. OWC has a somewhat friendlier cross-ship policy.

    OK. Thanks Neill. :-)

    Btw, WHICH Apple products take THREE sticks of RAM?

    Go to http://everymac.com and find out.

    Thank you for pointing me in that direction, Roger! :-)

    I've read here:- http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/faq/powermac-g5-memory-type-supported-number-of-ram-slots.html

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  • From Wade Garrett@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Feb 23 15:34:03 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2/22/17 4:06 AM, Ant wrote:
    Since its HDD is dying, it will need a new drive. 512 GB should be a
    good enough size. I'd like to reuse this drive for other computers
    (Windows, Mac OS, Linux, etc. on desktops and (laptop/notebook)s) too if possible if MBP dies later on. Is Crucial brand good as shown in http://guides.crucial.com/c/MacBook_Pro_15"_Core_2_Duo_Models_A1226_and_A1260 ?

    Thank you in advance. :)

    Actually you'd be fine with most any name brand product...they're all
    quite good and are pretty much commodities these days.

    Your inquiry reminds me, though, of one I saw recently about which of
    the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders was the best looking and sexiest;-)

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  • From Neill Massello@21:1/5 to David B. on Thu Feb 23 14:05:45 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Btw, WHICH Apple products take THREE sticks of RAM?

    The old (cheese grater) Pro towers came with four or eight slots, but
    their memory managers provided optimal speed with three or six of the
    slots filled.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to wade@cooler.net on Thu Feb 23 15:35:19 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <o8ngvt$opd$1@news.albasani.net>, Wade Garrett
    <wade@cooler.net> wrote:

    Your inquiry reminds me, though, of one I saw recently about which of
    the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders was the best looking and sexiest;-)

    debbie, obviously.

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to Neill Massello on Sat Feb 25 07:52:52 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 22/02/2017 19:44, Neill Massello wrote:
    David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Have you any personal experience of replacing a hard drive in an iMac
    with an SSD?

    Not an iMac, but a 2012 Mac mini. Replacing the internal 5400rpm HDD
    with an SSD, the speed improvement was . . . staggering. This was
    running 10.11, although reports are that results are similar with any OS version from 10.9 onward.

    Thanks for the info, Neill.

    When I replace this aging iMac, I'll make sure I get one with an SSD!

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to nospam on Sat Feb 25 07:42:59 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 22/02/2017 19:42, nospam wrote:
    In article <1ElrA.503615$8w1.206346@fx02.fr7>, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    I don't have an SSD in _any_ of my equipment, so cannot advise.

    it's time to change that. the difference versus a hard drive is
    staggering.

    I'll bear that in mind. Thank you. :-)

    Have you any personal experience of replacing a hard drive in an iMac
    with an SSD?

    imacs are a pain in the ass to open up.

    find the one you have and decide if you want to proceed with it: <https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iMac>

    What a fantastic site you directed me to - *THANK YOU*! :-)

    Until I read the label underneath the computer stand, I had no idea that
    my iMac had been assembled in China! (I wonder if President Trump is
    aware of this! ;-) )

    It looks easy when one reads here: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+24-Inch+EMC+2134+and+2211+Diagnostic+LED%27s/7443

    However, I'll take your word that it's "a pain in the ass" to do it!

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid on Sat Feb 25 09:52:51 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In article <7AasA.673075$4K3.193771@fx12.fr7>, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Until I read the label underneath the computer stand, I had no idea that
    my iMac had been assembled in China! (I wonder if President Trump is
    aware of this! ;-) )

    it's not just apple products. nearly all consumer electronics today is assembled in china and that ain't changing any time soon, if ever.

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  • From David B.@21:1/5 to nospam on Sat Feb 25 18:17:47 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 25/02/2017 14:52, nospam wrote:
    In article <7AasA.673075$4K3.193771@fx12.fr7>, David B. <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Until I read the label underneath the computer stand, I had no idea that
    my iMac had been assembled in China! (I wonder if President Trump is
    aware of this! ;-) )

    it's not just apple products. nearly all consumer electronics today is assembled in china and that ain't changing any time soon, if ever.

    Indeed!

    You may find THIS item of interest:-

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601215/china-is-building-a-robot-army-of-model-workers/

    D.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to David B. on Sat Feb 25 10:34:21 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.mac.portable, comp.sys.mac.hardware XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2/25/2017 10:17 AM, David B. wrote:
    On 25/02/2017 14:52, nospam wrote:
    In article <7AasA.673075$4K3.193771@fx12.fr7>, David B.
    <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> wrote:

    Until I read the label underneath the computer stand, I had no idea that >>> my iMac had been assembled in China! (I wonder if President Trump is
    aware of this! ;-) )

    it's not just apple products. nearly all consumer electronics today is
    assembled in china and that ain't changing any time soon, if ever.

    Indeed!

    You may find THIS item of interest:-

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601215/china-is-building-a-robot-army-of-model-workers/


    D.

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  • From Happy.Hobo@21:1/5 to David B. on Tue Feb 28 16:23:38 2017
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2/22/17 12:59 PM, David B. wrote:
    By taking the action you have, you will be preventing those folk viewing groups /other/ than 'com.sys.mac.hardware.storage' from reading
    responses. Accordingly, 'comp.sys.mac.system' has been re-instated.

    Perhaps those folks ar not viewing com.sys.mac.hardware.storage because
    they aren't interested in a post about storage hardware on a mac system.

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