• Anyone know a trick for forcing Time Machine to back up SD cards or

    From Lewis@21:1/5 to Happy.Hobo on Wed Oct 19 12:46:18 2016
    In message <nu5lef$10nl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
    Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    If I go to the Time Machine prefs and look at the exclusions, my SD card
    is on the list. I did not put it there, and I cannot remove it.

    That is correct.

    I frequently put a tarball from it on my (backed up),

    Not sure what that means, but putting the data onto a drive is the
    answer.

    but I shouldn't have to.

    and you base this statement on what, exactly?


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  • From Happy.Hobo@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Oct 19 17:57:13 2016
    On 10-19-2016 10:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Nonsense. Time Machine was *never* marketed as a backup utility for
    anything other than Apple file systems on Macs. If you want to back up
    other file systems, use suitable backup software for those file systems.

    It's marketed as a backup utility.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201250

    "all your files" Not.

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  • From Happy.Hobo@21:1/5 to Lewis on Wed Oct 19 17:58:14 2016
    On 10-19-2016 07:46, Lewis wrote:
    In message <nu5lef$10nl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
    Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    If I go to the Time Machine prefs and look at the exclusions, my SD card
    is on the list. I did not put it there, and I cannot remove it.

    That is correct.

    I frequently put a tarball from it on my (backed up),

    Not sure what that means, but putting the data onto a drive is the
    answer.

    but I shouldn't have to.

    and you base this statement on what, exactly?

    First, on reasonable design.

    Second on "all your files" in https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201250

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Happy.Hobo on Wed Oct 19 15:50:13 2016
    On 2016-10-19, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    On 10-18-2016 15:15, David Empson wrote:
    From a quick glance, it appears that Time Machine doesn't back up
    volumes that are formatted as foreign file systems (e.g. FAT, ExFAT).

    Wow, that sucks. And is not a smart design.

    Nonsense. Time Machine was *never* marketed as a backup utility for
    anything other than Apple file systems on Macs. If you want to back up
    other file systems, use suitable backup software for those file systems.

    I don't remember for sure, but I think I formatted it HFS+.

    Obviously not.

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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to Happy.Hobo on Thu Oct 20 04:16:31 2016
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    Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    On 10-19-2016 07:46, Lewis wrote:
    In message <nu5lef$10nl$1@gioia.aioe.org>
    Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    If I go to the Time Machine prefs and look at the exclusions, my SD card >>> is on the list. I did not put it there, and I cannot remove it.

    That is correct.

    I frequently put a tarball from it on my (backed up),

    Not sure what that means, but putting the data onto a drive is the
    answer.

    but I shouldn't have to.

    and you base this statement on what, exactly?

    First, on reasonable design.

    You are not the arbiter of reasonable.

    Second on "all your files" in https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201250

    All the files on your computer wouldn't, reasonably, include files on transitory devices like SD cards that are normally used for moving data
    TO the computer.



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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Happy.Hobo on Thu Oct 20 15:27:33 2016
    On 2016-10-19, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    On 10-19-2016 10:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Nonsense. Time Machine was *never* marketed as a backup utility for
    anything other than Apple file systems on Macs. If you want to back up
    other file systems, use suitable backup software for those file systems.

    It's marketed as a backup utility.

    For Macs, yep.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201250

    "all your files" Not.

    Common sense tells me "all your files" doesn't include files that are
    not on my Mac, like files on your floppy disks, CDs, DVDs, and yes, also Windows-formatted USB sticks. And the fact that Time Machine *will* back
    up Mac-formatted USB sticks is a mere bonus.

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  • From Happy.Hobo@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Fri Oct 21 20:13:32 2016
    On 10-20-2016 10:27, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2016-10-19, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    On 10-19-2016 10:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Nonsense. Time Machine was *never* marketed as a backup utility for
    anything other than Apple file systems on Macs. If you want to back up
    other file systems, use suitable backup software for those file systems.

    It's marketed as a backup utility.

    For Macs, yep.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201250

    "all your files" Not.

    Common sense tells me "all your files" doesn't include files that are
    not on my Mac, like files on your floppy disks, CDs, DVDs, and yes, also Windows-formatted USB sticks. And the fact that Time Machine *will* back
    up Mac-formatted USB sticks is a mere bonus.

    Common sense tells me that "all my files" doesn't mean "some of them."

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Happy.Hobo on Sat Oct 22 01:40:12 2016
    On 2016-10-22, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    On 10-20-2016 10:27, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2016-10-19, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    On 10-19-2016 10:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Nonsense. Time Machine was *never* marketed as a backup utility for
    anything other than Apple file systems on Macs. If you want to back up >>>> other file systems, use suitable backup software for those file systems. >>>
    It's marketed as a backup utility.

    For Macs, yep.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201250

    "all your files" Not.

    Common sense tells me "all your files" doesn't include files that are
    not on my Mac, like files on your floppy disks, CDs, DVDs, and yes, also
    Windows-formatted USB sticks. And the fact that Time Machine *will* back
    up Mac-formatted USB sticks is a mere bonus.

    Common sense tells me that "all my files" doesn't mean "some of them."

    Whatever. You're just looking for someone to blame for your own mistake.
    It's up to you to back up your data.

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  • From Happy.Hobo@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Oct 22 16:51:59 2016
    On 10-21-2016 20:40, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2016-10-22, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    On 10-20-2016 10:27, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2016-10-19, Happy.Hobo <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> wrote:
    On 10-19-2016 10:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Nonsense. Time Machine was *never* marketed as a backup utility for
    anything other than Apple file systems on Macs. If you want to back up >>>>> other file systems, use suitable backup software for those file systems. >>>>
    It's marketed as a backup utility.

    For Macs, yep.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201250

    "all your files" Not.

    Common sense tells me "all your files" doesn't include files that are
    not on my Mac, like files on your floppy disks, CDs, DVDs, and yes, also >>> Windows-formatted USB sticks. And the fact that Time Machine *will* back >>> up Mac-formatted USB sticks is a mere bonus.

    Common sense tells me that "all my files" doesn't mean "some of them."

    Whatever. You're just looking for someone to blame for your own mistake.
    It's up to you to back up your data.

    I back it up. I just wished Time Machine would do it as advertised.

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