• External HD won't mount

    From Kurt V. Ullman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 23 08:02:59 2017
    I have a 2T My Passport for Mac that worked fine yesterday but wouldn't
    mount after I shut down and then started back up (thunderstorms came
    through). Nothing else changed. The light on the HD is flashing, looks
    to be faster, maybe ~1 per second. I hear no noise. It has two
    partitions and neither one is showing up. I am running a mid-2015 MBP
    10.12.6.
    I have tried plugging it into the other USB port on the computer and
    got the same response. A thumb drive into the USB port I normally use
    for the HD worked fine. I have no other computer nearby to plug it into
    to see if it that works. The only thing I did between the time it worked
    and it didn't was turn the computer off. I disconnected the HD after it
    was off so I didn't eject it incorrectly.

    Suggestions?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Ullman on Wed Aug 23 10:03:04 2017
    In article <2PqdnV-vP4Rp8wDEnZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I have a 2T My Passport for Mac that worked fine yesterday but wouldn't
    mount after I shut down and then started back up (thunderstorms came through). Nothing else changed. The light on the HD is flashing, looks
    to be faster, maybe ~1 per second. I hear no noise. It has two
    partitions and neither one is showing up. I am running a mid-2015 MBP 10.12.6.
    I have tried plugging it into the other USB port on the computer and
    got the same response. A thumb drive into the USB port I normally use
    for the HD worked fine. I have no other computer nearby to plug it into
    to see if it that works. The only thing I did between the time it worked
    and it didn't was turn the computer off. I disconnected the HD after it
    was off so I didn't eject it incorrectly.

    Suggestions?

    that sounds like the drive isn't spinning up anymore.

    try using an actual 5v power adapter rather than relying on bus power.

    also try choosing about this mac in the apple menu, then click on
    system report... (or use the option key to directly access it), click
    on usb and see if the mac is even seeing the drive.

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  • From Kurt V. Ullman@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Aug 23 12:03:43 2017
    On 8/23/17 10:03 AM, nospam wrote:
    In article <2PqdnV-vP4Rp8wDEnZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I have a 2T My Passport for Mac that worked fine yesterday but wouldn't
    mount after I shut down and then started back up (thunderstorms came
    through). Nothing else changed. The light on the HD is flashing, looks
    to be faster, maybe ~1 per second. I hear no noise. It has two
    partitions and neither one is showing up. I am running a mid-2015 MBP
    10.12.6.
    I have tried plugging it into the other USB port on the computer and
    got the same response. A thumb drive into the USB port I normally use
    for the HD worked fine. I have no other computer nearby to plug it into
    to see if it that works. The only thing I did between the time it worked
    and it didn't was turn the computer off. I disconnected the HD after it
    was off so I didn't eject it incorrectly.

    Suggestions?

    that sounds like the drive isn't spinning up anymore.

    try using an actual 5v power adapter rather than relying on bus power.
    Not sure how I do that. I have a powered 4-port hub. Would that work
    instead? Both buses did not work. Would that make any difference on
    relying on the bus if both are the same. Also I am getting the blinking
    on the drive/


    also try choosing about this mac in the apple menu, then click on
    system report... (or use the option key to directly access it), click
    on usb and see if the mac is even seeing the drive.


    The Mac is seeing the drive.

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  • From Kurt V. Ullman@21:1/5 to nospam on Wed Aug 23 12:53:59 2017
    On 8/23/17 12:31 PM, nospam wrote:
    In article <EKqdndkYVb_8OgDEnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:


    without seeing the drive it's impossible to tell, but based on your description, it sounds like the drive has failed.

    When I listen to it, there is a whirring sound, I can feel a vibration.
    Does that change anything?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Ullman on Wed Aug 23 12:31:44 2017
    In article <EKqdndkYVb_8OgDEnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    that sounds like the drive isn't spinning up anymore.

    try using an actual 5v power adapter rather than relying on bus power.
    Not sure how I do that.

    by plugging in a 5v adapter for portable drives, which use very thin
    barrel connector, so if you have a 5v adapter (such as for your usb
    hub) it probably won't fit.

    on the other hand, not all portable drives have a 5v input, so it may
    not matter.

    I have a powered 4-port hub. Would that work
    instead? Both buses did not work. Would that make any difference on
    relying on the bus if both are the same. Also I am getting the blinking
    on the drive/

    a powered usb 3 hub is worth a try because usb 3 can source at least
    900 ma per port which should be enough to spin up the drive, although
    your computer has usb 3 so it probably won't make a difference. a usb 2
    hub generally can't source that much.

    also try choosing about this mac in the apple menu, then click on
    system report... (or use the option key to directly access it), click
    on usb and see if the mac is even seeing the drive.

    The Mac is seeing the drive.

    then the usb bridge works.

    without seeing the drive it's impossible to tell, but based on your description, it sounds like the drive has failed.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to Ullman on Wed Aug 23 12:58:48 2017
    In article <-didnVZKavC6LgDEnZ2dnUU7-WXNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    When I listen to it, there is a whirring sound, I can feel a vibration.
    Does that change anything?

    that means it's spinning.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Kurt V. Ullman on Wed Aug 23 17:16:11 2017
    On 2017-08-23, Kurt V. Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 8/23/17 12:31 PM, nospam wrote:
    In article <EKqdndkYVb_8OgDEnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    without seeing the drive it's impossible to tell, but based on your
    description, it sounds like the drive has failed.

    When I listen to it, there is a whirring sound, I can feel a vibration.
    Does that change anything?

    When you initially power up the drive, can you hear the head move at
    all? Is there a repetitive pattern to the sound?

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  • From Kurt V. Ullman@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Wed Aug 23 22:38:56 2017
    On 8/23/17 1:16 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2017-08-23, Kurt V. Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 8/23/17 12:31 PM, nospam wrote:
    In article <EKqdndkYVb_8OgDEnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    without seeing the drive it's impossible to tell, but based on your
    description, it sounds like the drive has failed.

    When I listen to it, there is a whirring sound, I can feel a vibration.
    Does that change anything?

    When you initially power up the drive, can you hear the head move at
    all? Is there a repetitive pattern to the sound?

    I just hear a whirring or spinning sound that doesn't change.
    Disk Utility, when the drive is plugged in, just says it is searching
    for disks and continues to search for 6 minutes one time until I gave
    up. If I turn the computer off and restart it w/ the HD plugged in I get
    the internal HD on the computer and the thumb drive on the other port.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Thu Aug 24 14:56:16 2017
    In article <f08lm7Fkl2pU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    without seeing the drive it's impossible to tell, but based on your
    description, it sounds like the drive has failed.

    When I listen to it, there is a whirring sound, I can feel a vibration. >>> Does that change anything?

    When you initially power up the drive, can you hear the head move at
    all? Is there a repetitive pattern to the sound?

    I just hear a whirring or spinning sound that doesn't change.
    Disk Utility, when the drive is plugged in, just says it is searching
    for disks and continues to search for 6 minutes one time until I gave
    up. If I turn the computer off and restart it w/ the HD plugged in I get the internal HD on the computer and the thumb drive on the other port.

    What make and model hard drive enclosure is this?


    In article <2PqdnV-vP4Rp8wDEnZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a 2T My Passport for Mac that worked fine yesterday...

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Kurt V. Ullman on Thu Aug 24 18:53:59 2017
    Kurt V. Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 8/23/17 1:16 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2017-08-23, Kurt V. Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 8/23/17 12:31 PM, nospam wrote:
    In article <EKqdndkYVb_8OgDEnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    without seeing the drive it's impossible to tell, but based on your
    description, it sounds like the drive has failed.

    When I listen to it, there is a whirring sound, I can feel a vibration.
    Does that change anything?

    When you initially power up the drive, can you hear the head move at
    all? Is there a repetitive pattern to the sound?

    I just hear a whirring or spinning sound that doesn't change.
    Disk Utility, when the drive is plugged in, just says it is searching
    for disks and continues to search for 6 minutes one time until I gave
    up. If I turn the computer off and restart it w/ the HD plugged in I get
    the internal HD on the computer and the thumb drive on the other port.

    What make and model hard drive enclosure is this?

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Thu Aug 24 22:43:13 2017
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <f08lm7Fkl2pU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    without seeing the drive it's impossible to tell, but based on your >>>>>> description, it sounds like the drive has failed.

    When I listen to it, there is a whirring sound, I can feel a vibration. >>>>> Does that change anything?

    When you initially power up the drive, can you hear the head move at
    all? Is there a repetitive pattern to the sound?

    I just hear a whirring or spinning sound that doesn't change.
    Disk Utility, when the drive is plugged in, just says it is searching
    for disks and continues to search for 6 minutes one time until I gave
    up. If I turn the computer off and restart it w/ the HD plugged in I get >>> the internal HD on the computer and the thumb drive on the other port.

    What make and model hard drive enclosure is this?

    In article <2PqdnV-vP4Rp8wDEnZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a 2T My Passport for Mac that worked fine yesterday...

    Thanks for the reminder. So it looks like this drive doesn't come with a
    power cable, nor does it have a power cable port. So the only way to test
    the drive itself outside of the enclosure seems to be to remove it from the enclosure.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Thu Aug 24 19:00:09 2017
    In article <f09340Fnnb1U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    What make and model hard drive enclosure is this?

    In article <2PqdnV-vP4Rp8wDEnZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a 2T My Passport for Mac that worked fine yesterday...

    Thanks for the reminder. So it looks like this drive doesn't come with a power cable, nor does it have a power cable port. So the only way to test
    the drive itself outside of the enclosure seems to be to remove it from the enclosure.

    which might not help because many portable drives, including wd, now
    use an integrated usb bridge/controller rather than a sata port and
    separate bridge.

    <http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20140130/avaseded.jpg> <http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20140130/jasaze5u.jpg>

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to nospam on Fri Aug 25 01:12:52 2017
    On 2017-08-24, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <f09340Fnnb1U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
    <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    What make and model hard drive enclosure is this?

    In article <2PqdnV-vP4Rp8wDEnZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a 2T My Passport for Mac that worked fine yesterday...

    Thanks for the reminder. So it looks like this drive doesn't come with a
    power cable, nor does it have a power cable port. So the only way to test
    the drive itself outside of the enclosure seems to be to remove it from the >> enclosure.

    which might not help because many portable drives, including wd, now
    use an integrated usb bridge/controller rather than a sata port and
    separate bridge.

    <http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20140130/avaseded.jpg> ><http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20140130/jasaze5u.jpg>

    Ugh. That's kind of ridiculous. I guess they are trying to save money?
    Anyway, no thanks! I'll steer clear of these.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Fri Aug 25 01:16:15 2017
    On 2017-08-25, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2017-08-24, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <f09340Fnnb1U1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger >><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    What make and model hard drive enclosure is this?

    In article <2PqdnV-vP4Rp8wDEnZ2dnUU7-VnNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V.
    Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    I have a 2T My Passport for Mac that worked fine yesterday...

    Thanks for the reminder. So it looks like this drive doesn't come with a >>> power cable, nor does it have a power cable port. So the only way to test >>> the drive itself outside of the enclosure seems to be to remove it from the >>> enclosure.

    which might not help because many portable drives, including wd, now
    use an integrated usb bridge/controller rather than a sata port and
    separate bridge.

    <http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20140130/avaseded.jpg> >><http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20140130/jasaze5u.jpg>

    Ugh. That's kind of ridiculous. I guess they are trying to save money? Anyway, no thanks! I'll steer clear of these.

    I've never seen an enclosure that can accept such drives. None of mine
    do. Screw that noise.

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  • From Kurt V. Ullman@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Thu Aug 24 21:53:56 2017
    On 8/24/17 2:53 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    Kurt V. Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 8/23/17 1:16 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2017-08-23, Kurt V. Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On 8/23/17 12:31 PM, nospam wrote:
    In article <EKqdndkYVb_8OgDEnZ2dnUU7-WfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Kurt V. >>>>> Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

    without seeing the drive it's impossible to tell, but based on your
    description, it sounds like the drive has failed.

    When I listen to it, there is a whirring sound, I can feel a vibration. >>>> Does that change anything?

    When you initially power up the drive, can you hear the head move at
    all? Is there a repetitive pattern to the sound?

    I just hear a whirring or spinning sound that doesn't change.
    Disk Utility, when the drive is plugged in, just says it is searching
    for disks and continues to search for 6 minutes one time until I gave
    up. If I turn the computer off and restart it w/ the HD plugged in I get
    the internal HD on the computer and the thumb drive on the other port.

    What make and model hard drive enclosure is this?

    WD My Passport for Mac P/N WDBZYL0020BSL-05. Yesterday there was a
    short time when it showed up again on devices. There was only one Time
    Machine backup and it was about 5:00 and I saw this around 8. Went away
    for awhile, the computer went to sleep and when I woke it back (and
    since then) it hasn't shown up again. At this point, I am only concerned
    about the partition that has the TM (assuming with this last bit that
    there is any TM left) and SuperDuper! (on the other partition) is no
    particular problem if I just get a new drive.

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