• Comp.Sys.Sun.Announce Moderation Policies [last modified: 1997-08-15 17

    From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 15 16:08:00 2015
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 15 16:08:00 2015
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 15 17:08:00 2015
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 15 16:08:00 2015
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 15 17:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 15 16:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 15 17:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 16:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 15 16:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 15 16:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 15 17:08:00 2015
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 15 16:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 15 16:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 15 16:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 15 16:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 15 17:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 15 17:08:00 2016
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 15 17:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 15 17:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 15 16:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 15 16:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 15 16:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 15 16:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 15 16:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 15 16:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 16:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 16:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 15 17:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 15 17:08:00 2017
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 15 17:08:00 2018
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 15 17:08:00 2018
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 15 16:08:00 2018
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 15 16:08:00 2018
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 15 16:08:00 2018
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 15 16:08:00 2018
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

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  • From Scott Hazen Mueller@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 15 16:08:00 2018
    The newsgroup comp.sys.sun.announce is for the posting of announcements that would be of interest to the entire world community of Sun users and potential users. The intent is that every Usenet reader in the world who is interested in Sun systems should be able to subscribe to comp.sys.sun.announce without being overwhelmed by volume. Postings should be primarily relevant to Sun systems or software.

    Content is restricted to announcements only. Discussions and questions are
    not appropriate material. If you are announcing a meeting or an event for an organization that is not well-known, please feel free to include a short statement of the organization's history and purpose as a part of the announcement posting. Please do not send us background material as separate postings; it will be sent back to you.

    In the interest of minimizing the turnaround time between receipt of a submission and when it is approved and posting, we are doing only the bare minimum of editing. This means that we will not be rewriting header lines, even if the content does not appear to accurately describe the submission. Please direct comments about such matters to the submitters and not to the moderators.

    Due to the load of our other activities, it can take up to two weeks to
    process submissions to comp.sys.sun.announce. Please put the word 'timely'
    at the beginning of your Subject line if your posting describes an event and may expire if it takes the full two weeks to turn around.

    Per the official charter, the following are appropriate postings:

    Announcements of events and new products that are primarily specific to
    Sun users and owners. Specifically includes commercial material as
    long as it meets the guidelines for this group and comp.newprod, see
    attached comp.newprod guidelines. Cross-postings will be accepted if
    and only if they are relevant to users of Sun systems. For-sale ads
    will not be accepted.

    The moderators are:

    scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller), primary
    de5@ornl.gov (Dave Sill), backup

    The submission address is:

    css-announce@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG
    zorch!css-announce

    The comp.newprod guidelines are attached for reference:

    The following guidelines should give you a good idea of what we look
    for when reviewing submissions. The rationale for these guidelines
    was discussed previously in this document.

    1. The submission must be an announcement of a new product or
    service. The product must be computer-related, and it must be of
    potential interest to a large number of Usenet readers. The
    message must be of lasting value, thus we do not accept trade show
    announcements, special pricing offers, etc. Commercial messages
    other than new product announcements are not appropriate for this
    newsgroup.

    2. Announcements should *briefly* describe the product, requirements
    (e.g. supported platforms), availability, and pricing. It should
    only take a couple of screenfuls to convey this information. If
    your description is longer than that, then you've either got too
    much detail or too much fluff. All you should do here is summarize.
    Anybody who is interested will contact you for the additional
    information. Similarly, do not include lengthy product matrices
    or order forms; ask interested people to write to you for a copy.
    The ideal length is on the order of 60 lines (excluding headers).
    If your message is much longer, it needs tighter editing. (Please
    note, excessive length is the most common reason for rejecting
    submissions.)

    3. The announcement must be informative. It must contain a brief
    technical description of the product or service, subject to the
    length constraints just mentioned. This newsgroup is NOT a place
    for advertisements! It is a place for factual product info.

    4. The product must be available to all Usenet users throughout
    North America, if not the world. Products with regional availability
    should be announced in regional newsgroups, not comp.newprod.

    5. All announcements must contain the manufacturer's name and a
    contact for additional information. This should include a name,
    telephone number, postal address, and email address. Americans,
    please remember that your 1-800 telephone number might not work
    for people outside the U.S.

    6. The announcement must be from a representative either employed
    by or designated by the product's manufacturer. We do not accept
    announcements from distributors or resellers for products in mass
    distribution.

    7. Leave out the quotations from your company executives and ecstatic
    customers. If there is useful info in that quote, it may be
    provided more concisely and compellingly as a statement of fact.
    Moreover, we don't need to know about your corporate history,
    customer list, or distribution methods. Please avoid the superlatives
    and superfluous hype. Just the (technical) facts, please. These
    violations are the second most common reason (after message length)
    for returning submissions.

    8. Note that a typical press release does NOT meet the above
    guidelines. They tend to be either too long or too heavy on the
    hype. We aren't the press. We don't want to edit (or spindle or
    fold or mutilate) your announcements as the press might. We simply
    want to publish them. You need to do the editing.

    9. Your article must have a suitable Subject, not something like
    `submission for comp.newprod'. Do not use all UPPER CASE or
    superfluous !!!punctuation marks!!! in your subject (or messages).
    Putting phrases like `new product announcement' in your subject
    is dumb. If it wasn't it wouldn't be in this newsgroup! Select
    your subject with care; a person is going to decide whether or
    not to read your announcement based upon those six short words.

    10. We almost never accept articles that are cross-posted to multiple
    newsgroups or have been posted to other newsgroups. By definition,
    if a message is appropriate for comp.newprod then it is NOT
    appropriate for most other Usenet groups. One exception: some
    `announce' groups accept product announcements, and we will cross-post
    there if its moderator says OK.

    11. We do not accept articles with a limited `Distribution'. If you
    have availability restrictions then do mention them in the
    announcement, but the announcement must be submitted for distribution
    throughout all of Usenet.

    12. If the contact person for additional information is not the person
    who submitted the message, then put a `Reply-To' header in the
    message. Do NOT try to redirect email to somebody else by saying
    `send email to ...' in your announcement. People won't. They
    will just hit the `r' key and the message will go back to you.
    If you do not know how to set a `Reply-To', ask for help.

    13. We use a standard keywording system for all comp.newprod messages.
    We require a `Keywords' header on your message. The format is
    `Keywords: company name; product name; keyword, keyword, keyword ...'.
    We welcome (plead for!) your suggestions on keywords. If the
    product is esoteric or outside our areas of expertise, we might end
    up picking crummy keywords.

    14. Your message must be properly formatted, avoiding long lines
    that wrap around a typical terminal screen and strange line breaks.
    We suggest that you break your lines at 78 columns or less.
    Whitespace is your friend (within reason). Carefully spell check
    and proofread your submissions; nothing screams `unprofessional'
    louder than poorly crafted prose. Please go easy on the Cap-Shift
    key. Do NOT right-justify your text; leave `ragged right margins.'
    We are not impressed that you can construct your company logo out
    of Xs and /s. `ASCII art' and gratuitous typesetting effects are
    discouraged. A double pox on people who use overly long signatures.

    15. If you fear the headers of your message might get mangled in
    transit, feel free to note correct header information at the very
    top of your message. Clarifying comments addressed to the moderator
    also may be placed at the top of your message. If, while you are
    at it, you'd like to suggest some keywords for your message, that
    would be great. We will cleanup the headers and remove these
    comments prior to posting.

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