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    From Lynn McGuire@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 22 14:18:21 2019
    “Never Give Ransomware Scammers Your Money”

    https://www.pcmag.com/commentary/369143/never-give-ransomware-scammers-your-money

    “A Florida city made the difficult decision to fork over the cash after ransomware hijacked city computers. Everyone needs to make their own
    choice, but I firmly believe you should never pay the ransom.”

    Lynn

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to lynnmcguire5@gmail.com on Sun Jun 23 11:57:03 2019
    On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:18:21 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    Never Give Ransomware Scammers Your Money

    https://www.pcmag.com/commentary/369143/never-give-ransomware-scammers-your-money

    A Florida city made the difficult decision to fork over the cash after >ransomware hijacked city computers. Everyone needs to make their own
    choice, but I firmly believe you should never pay the ransom.

    They should have backups. Lots of backups a day, and not to
    the same storage. So when ransomware hits, they've lost at most a few
    hours of data.
    Even so, if a some multi-million dollar contracts were signed
    since the last backup it will still be a tough decision to make.
    Or in the case of hospitals, even with backups the last few
    hours of treatment administered and duly registered could be lost. And
    people could die through overdoses or lack of treatment.
    I say charge the bad guys with the damage done. Someone died?
    First degree murder. They will be caught eventually.
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012

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  • From Joe Pfeiffer@21:1/5 to Lynn McGuire on Sun Jun 23 10:06:27 2019
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

    “Never Give Ransomware Scammers Your Money”

    https://www.pcmag.com/commentary/369143/never-give-ransomware-scammers-your-money

    “A Florida city made the difficult decision to fork over the cash
    after ransomware hijacked city computers. Everyone needs to make their
    own choice, but I firmly believe you should never pay the ransom.”

    Lynn

    I firmly believe you should have backups and disaster recovery
    procedures that make it unnecessary to pay the ransom. But if you've
    made the mistake of not having that, and the data will be much more
    expensive to reconstruct than the ransom, you really don't have much
    choice.

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  • From Tom Del Rosso@21:1/5 to Shadow on Sat Aug 17 01:58:18 2019
    Shadow wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:18:21 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Never Give Ransomware Scammers Your Money"

    https://www.pcmag.com/commentary/369143/never-give-ransomware-scammers-your-money

    "A Florida city made the difficult decision to fork over the cash
    after ransomware hijacked city computers. Everyone needs to make
    their own choice, but I firmly believe you should never pay the
    ransom."

    They should have backups. Lots of backups a day, and not to
    the same storage. So when ransomware hits, they've lost at most a few
    hours of data.
    Even so, if a some multi-million dollar contracts were signed
    since the last backup it will still be a tough decision to make.
    Or in the case of hospitals, even with backups the last few
    hours of treatment administered and duly registered could be lost. And
    people could die through overdoses or lack of treatment.
    I say charge the bad guys with the damage done. Someone died?
    First degree murder. They will be caught eventually.
    []'s

    I don't understand why law enforcement is so ineffective if they can't
    trace the money and catch them immediately.

    AV is also surprisingly ineffective if it can't detect when a single
    process is overwriting every file.

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  • From Shadow@21:1/5 to fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-dom on Thu Aug 29 07:19:05 2019
    On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 01:58:18 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:

    Shadow wrote:
    On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 14:18:21 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Never Give Ransomware Scammers Your Money"

    https://www.pcmag.com/commentary/369143/never-give-ransomware-scammers-your-money

    "A Florida city made the difficult decision to fork over the cash
    after ransomware hijacked city computers. Everyone needs to make
    their own choice, but I firmly believe you should never pay the
    ransom."

    They should have backups. Lots of backups a day, and not to
    the same storage. So when ransomware hits, they've lost at most a few
    hours of data.
    Even so, if a some multi-million dollar contracts were signed
    since the last backup it will still be a tough decision to make.
    Or in the case of hospitals, even with backups the last few
    hours of treatment administered and duly registered could be lost. And
    people could die through overdoses or lack of treatment.
    I say charge the bad guys with the damage done. Someone died?
    First degree murder. They will be caught eventually.
    []'s

    I don't understand why law enforcement is so ineffective if they can't
    trace the money and catch them immediately.

    Payments in bitcoin are very hard to trace.

    AV is also surprisingly ineffective if it can't detect when a single
    process is overwriting every file.

    Well, if they did that, what would people be scared of?
    People only use and update AVs in the hope it will prevent
    most malware. The 1% that gets through is free advertizing.
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012

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