• So many online reviews are a mess

    From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 12:28:53 2019
    It's occurred to me that now, with such vendors as Amazon and NewEgg
    listing items that are actually sold by other vendors, it's impossible
    to be sure to what items a review is referring: is the review of a
    brand-new item, a used item, an open-box item, or a used but refurbished/renewed item? Certainly I have seen complaints that the
    reviewer thought s/he was buying a new drive, but the manufacture date
    on the label had been erased, or the warranty had expired long before
    the purchase, or the SMART data showed that it had clocked up thousands
    of power-on hours.

    Perce

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Percival P. Cassidy on Sat Jun 15 15:06:07 2019
    Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

    It's occurred to me that now, with such vendors as Amazon and NewEgg
    listing items that are actually sold by other vendors, it's impossible
    to be sure to what items a review is referring: is the review of a
    brand-new item, a used item, an open-box item, or a used but refurbished/renewed item? Certainly I have seen complaints that the
    reviewer thought s/he was buying a new drive, but the manufacture date
    on the label had been erased, or the warranty had expired long before
    the purchase, or the SMART data showed that it had clocked up thousands
    of power-on hours.

    Newegg shows you who is the seller. Plus, there is a search option to
    look at items from a particular vendor. I always pick Newegg, so where
    I'm buying is who is selling, and I know and have used Newegg's returns
    versus having to deal with someone else. Amazon does the same: they
    provide a storefront to other sellers. Doesn't Amazon show who is the
    seller? As I recall, there is no search option to restrict the search
    to just Amazon. Walmart does the same, too, and they have a search
    option to find products sold by them, not by someone else. That way,
    when I buy from Walmart, I can take it a local Walmart store for a
    return instead of having to pay for return shipping. My aunt didn't
    select "Sears" as the buyer, and ended up buying from Mayfair where
    warranty returns were a bitch to get okayed, processed, and long to get
    the replacement. Sears offers store fronts, too: search on "mower" and
    notice which say "Sold by Sears" versus "Sold by <someoneElse>".

    As far as the reviews go, you see whatever a prior buyer wants to say.
    If they don't give details, well, that's the norm there, here, and just
    about everywhere users are asked for a review. Go to the Google Store
    and look at user reviews there. The boobs think a star rating with no
    actual review is a review, like upvoting at Facebook with a "like".
    Anyplace that allows reviews and has the user pick a rating should
    reject the rating if the review form has less than, say, 120 characters.
    Reject that "great", "sucks", and other useless /reviews/.

    The problems you've noted, like the product not being what was
    advertized, I've not run into at Newegg; however, I pick "new" for
    condition. I have read about other users getting a bogus USB flash
    drive, but Newegg was quick to respond and shipped out a valid product immediately without additional shipping cost to the buyer. I've only
    bought from Amazon a few times but didn't get hit with a product not
    being what it said it was. I have been hit at eBay. If the seller
    doesn't make it right, I can employ eBay's Buyer Guarantee (which I've
    done about 3 times over many years). Consumers are generally very
    crappy reviewers. Sometimes you wonder why they bothered spending the 5 seconds to add a useless "review". Consumers have also been very poor
    at even bothering to read the entire product description, too. They
    didn't what they expected because they didn't bother to READ the sale.

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  • From Percival P. Cassidy@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Sun Jun 16 17:54:48 2019
    On 6/15/19 4:06 PM, VanguardLH wrote:

    It's occurred to me that now, with such vendors as Amazon and NewEgg
    listing items that are actually sold by other vendors, it's impossible
    to be sure to what items a review is referring: is the review of a
    brand-new item, a used item, an open-box item, or a used but
    refurbished/renewed item? Certainly I have seen complaints that the
    reviewer thought s/he was buying a new drive, but the manufacture date
    on the label had been erased, or the warranty had expired long before
    the purchase, or the SMART data showed that it had clocked up thousands
    of power-on hours.

    Newegg shows you who is the seller. Plus, there is a search option to
    look at items from a particular vendor. I always pick Newegg, so where
    I'm buying is who is selling, and I know and have used Newegg's returns versus having to deal with someone else. Amazon does the same: they
    provide a storefront to other sellers. Doesn't Amazon show who is the seller? As I recall, there is no search option to restrict the search
    to just Amazon. Walmart does the same, too, and they have a search
    option to find products sold by them, not by someone else. That way,
    when I buy from Walmart, I can take it a local Walmart store for a
    return instead of having to pay for return shipping. My aunt didn't
    select "Sears" as the buyer, and ended up buying from Mayfair where
    warranty returns were a bitch to get okayed, processed, and long to get
    the replacement. Sears offers store fronts, too: search on "mower" and notice which say "Sold by Sears" versus "Sold by <someoneElse>".

    As far as the reviews go, you see whatever a prior buyer wants to say.
    If they don't give details, well, that's the norm there, here, and just
    about everywhere users are asked for a review. Go to the Google Store
    and look at user reviews there. The boobs think a star rating with no
    actual review is a review, like upvoting at Facebook with a "like".
    Anyplace that allows reviews and has the user pick a rating should
    reject the rating if the review form has less than, say, 120 characters. Reject that "great", "sucks", and other useless /reviews/.

    The problems you've noted, like the product not being what was
    advertized, I've not run into at Newegg; however, I pick "new" for
    condition. I have read about other users getting a bogus USB flash
    drive, but Newegg was quick to respond and shipped out a valid product immediately without additional shipping cost to the buyer. I've only
    bought from Amazon a few times but didn't get hit with a product not
    being what it said it was. I have been hit at eBay. If the seller
    doesn't make it right, I can employ eBay's Buyer Guarantee (which I've
    done about 3 times over many years). Consumers are generally very
    crappy reviewers. Sometimes you wonder why they bothered spending the 5 seconds to add a useless "review". Consumers have also been very poor
    at even bothering to read the entire product description, too. They
    didn't what they expected because they didn't bother to READ the sale.

    *I* know to check who the actual seller is, but if I want to write a
    review, there doesn't seem to be any mechanism to indicate automatically
    from which seller I bought the item I'm reviewing.

    And I just spotted a couple of 1-star reviews on NewEgg complaining that
    an SAS drive had a "non-standard" interface and wouldn't work in their
    SATA machines.

    Perce

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