• Disk has lost its icon?

    From nospam@21:1/5 to briang@panix.com on Tue Jul 13 22:58:46 2021
    In article <sclih8$sm4$1@panix3.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
    <briang@panix.com> wrote:

    I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and reasonably happy.

    However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility doesn't seem to cover it.

    check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the desktop.

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  • From Brian Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 14 02:35:20 2021
    I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and
    reasonably happy.

    However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility
    doesn't seem to cover it.

    Help?

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  • From Brian Gordon@21:1/5 to nospam@nospam.invalid on Wed Jul 14 03:41:22 2021
    In article <130720212258464165%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <sclih8$sm4$1@panix3.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
    <briang@panix.com> wrote:

    I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just >> fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and
    reasonably happy.

    However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina,
    13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar >> with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility
    doesn't seem to cover it.

    check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the >desktop.

    Thanks for the tip - I shoud have mentioned that Finder Preferences are set
    to show them and that when I plug in a different disk, its icon appears as expected. This one seems unique.

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to briang@panix.com on Wed Jul 14 09:55:54 2021
    In article <sclmd2$gh2$1@reader1.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
    <briang@panix.com> wrote:

    I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just >> fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and
    reasonably happy.

    However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, >> 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar
    with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility
    doesn't seem to cover it.

    check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the >desktop.

    Thanks for the tip - I shoud have mentioned that Finder Preferences are set to show them and that when I plug in a different disk, its icon appears as expected. This one seems unique.

    did it ever show?

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  • From Brian Gordon@21:1/5 to nospam@nospam.invalid on Wed Jul 14 14:06:03 2021
    In article <140720210955544679%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
    In article <sclmd2$gh2$1@reader1.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
    <briang@panix.com> wrote:

    I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just
    fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and
    reasonably happy.

    However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, >> >> 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar
    with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility
    doesn't seem to cover it.

    check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the
    desktop.

    Thanks for the tip - I should have mentioned that Finder Preferences are set >> to show them and that when I plug in a different disk, its icon appears as >> expected. This one seems unique.

    did it ever show?

    Unfortunately, not yet. I just had Disk Utility check it, and it found
    nothing wrong.
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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to briang@panix.com on Wed Jul 14 10:23:12 2021
    In article <scmr0b$hfe$1@reader1.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
    <briang@panix.com> wrote:


    However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro
    (Retina,
    13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am
    familar
    with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility >> >> doesn't seem to cover it.

    check finder prefs to see if external hard disks should be shown on the >> >desktop.

    Thanks for the tip - I should have mentioned that Finder Preferences are >> set
    to show them and that when I plug in a different disk, its icon appears as >> expected. This one seems unique.

    did it ever show?

    Unfortunately, not yet.

    i meant in the past. did it previously show up and now it doesn't, or
    it never has shown up, ever?

    I just had Disk Utility check it, and it found
    nothing wrong.

    disk utility checks for directory issues, which isn't why it's not
    showing up.

    finder is not showing it for some unknown reason.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Brian Gordon on Wed Jul 14 18:43:00 2021
    On 2021-07-14, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
    I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and reasonably happy.

    However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility doesn't seem to cover it.

    Help?

    With the drive connected and mounted, open a terminal window and execute
    this command:

    ls -lO /Volumes

    What is the output?

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  • From nospam@21:1/5 to briang@panix.com on Wed Jul 14 21:40:05 2021
    In article <sco3er$o9m$1@reader1.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
    <briang@panix.com> wrote:

    With the drive connected and mounted, open a terminal window and execute >this command:

    ls -lO /Volumes

    What is the output?


    drwxr-xr-x 36 root wheel sunlnk 1292 May 20 11:44 Backup drwx------ 3 brianggordon wheel - 96 Jun 6 22:51 STICK2 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel - 96 Jul 13 22:18 com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots

    "Backup" is the disk under discussion.

    After two hours on the phone today, Apple support said to call the disk manufacturer (Seagate). That's ongoing and continued tomorrow.

    translated: 'i don't know and there's a lot of calls waiting in my call
    queue'

    seagate won't have any clue, nor should they since it's not their
    problem. the drive functions properly. data can be read and written.

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  • From Brian Gordon@21:1/5 to jollyroger@pobox.com on Thu Jul 15 01:36:28 2021
    In article <il8phkF5d6bU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2021-07-14, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
    I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just >> fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and
    reasonably happy.

    However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina,
    13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar >> with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility
    doesn't seem to cover it.

    Help?

    With the drive connected and mounted, open a terminal window and execute
    this command:

    ls -lO /Volumes

    What is the output?


    drwxr-xr-x 36 root wheel sunlnk 1292 May 20 11:44 Backup
    drwx------ 3 brianggordon wheel - 96 Jun 6 22:51 STICK2
    drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel - 96 Jul 13 22:18 com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots

    "Backup" is the disk under discussion.

    After two hours on the phone today, Apple support said to call the disk manufacturer (Seagate). That's ongoing and continued tomorrow.

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Brian Gordon on Thu Jul 15 22:10:34 2021
    On 2021-07-15, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <il8phkF5d6bU1@mid.individual.net>,
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

    With the drive connected and mounted, open a terminal window and execute >>this command:

    ls -lO /Volumes

    What is the output?

    drwxr-xr-x 36 root wheel sunlnk 1292 May 20 11:44 Backup drwx------ 3 brianggordon wheel - 96 Jun 6 22:51 STICK2 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel - 96 Jul 13 22:18 com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots

    "Backup" is the disk under discussion.

    Thanks. I was wondering if it had the "hidden" flag set for some reason,
    which would prevent Finder from displaying it on your desktop. It
    appears that is not the case.

    After two hours on the phone today, Apple support said to call the disk manufacturer (Seagate). That's ongoing and continued tomorrow.

    I doubt they will be able to help, but it's worth a shot.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Brian Gordon on Thu Jul 15 22:27:12 2021
    Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also
    try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one?


    Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:

    I have an external 2TB disk I use for backups. The backups are going just fine, as is its use by Time Machine, so it is obviously mounted and reasonably happy.

    However, no disk icon for it appears on the desktop [MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) running macOS 11.4] That's not something I am familar with, and I don't know what is missing or how to fix it. Disk Utility doesn't seem to cover it.

    Help?
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  • From Brian Gordon@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Jul 16 14:42:37 2021
    In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also
    try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one?


    BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago - and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer!

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Brian Gordon on Fri Jul 16 15:23:26 2021
    On 2021-07-16, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also
    try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one?

    BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago - and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer!

    There's probably a corrupt preference file or cache file in your normal account. You could start by deleting the contents of the
    ~/Library/Caches folder in your normal account. If that doesn't work,
    try removing preference files for Finder, Dock, and so on. These files
    are rebuilt from scratch when they are missing.

    For best results, log out of your normal account first, log into an administrator account, delete the file(s) in question, then log
    into your normal account again to have them rebuilt from scratch. If you
    want to isolate the problem files, you'll do this in stages rather than
    all at once.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Fri Jul 16 20:46:55 2021
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2021-07-16, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also >>try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one?

    BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago -
    and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer!

    There's probably a corrupt preference file or cache file in your normal account. You could start by deleting the contents of the
    ~/Library/Caches folder in your normal account. If that doesn't work,
    try removing preference files for Finder, Dock, and so on. These files
    are rebuilt from scratch when they are missing.

    For best results, log out of your normal account first, log into an administrator account, delete the file(s) in question, then log
    into your normal account again to have them rebuilt from scratch. If you
    want to isolate the problem files, you'll do this in stages rather than
    all at once.

    I wonder if booting safe mode would still show this issue in the
    problematic account. IIRC, macOS' safe mode purges caches.
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Jul 17 02:03:55 2021
    On 2021-07-17, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2021-07-16, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also
    try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one?

    BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago -
    and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer!

    There's probably a corrupt preference file or cache file in your normal
    account. You could start by deleting the contents of the
    ~/Library/Caches folder in your normal account. If that doesn't work,
    try removing preference files for Finder, Dock, and so on. These files
    are rebuilt from scratch when they are missing.

    For best results, log out of your normal account first, log into an
    administrator account, delete the file(s) in question, then log
    into your normal account again to have them rebuilt from scratch. If you
    want to isolate the problem files, you'll do this in stages rather than
    all at once.

    I wonder if booting safe mode would still show this issue in the
    problematic account. IIRC, macOS' safe mode purges caches.

    I can't recall whether it deletes caches or temporarily disables them.
    Either way, it's worth a shot.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Jul 17 00:15:32 2021
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2021-07-17, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2021-07-16, Brian Gordon <briang@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <2OudnRjfiZANYW39nZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Have you tried a brand new macOS user account yet in the same Mac? Also >> >>try another Mac (don't back up though) if you have access to one?

    BINGO. I switched to another user account that is left over from years ago -
    and the icon appeared! Let's see Apple blame that on the disk manufacturer!

    There's probably a corrupt preference file or cache file in your normal
    account. You could start by deleting the contents of the
    ~/Library/Caches folder in your normal account. If that doesn't work,
    try removing preference files for Finder, Dock, and so on. These files
    are rebuilt from scratch when they are missing.

    For best results, log out of your normal account first, log into an
    administrator account, delete the file(s) in question, then log
    into your normal account again to have them rebuilt from scratch. If you >> want to isolate the problem files, you'll do this in stages rather than
    all at once.

    I wonder if booting safe mode would still show this issue in the problematic account. IIRC, macOS' safe mode purges caches.

    I can't recall whether it deletes caches or temporarily disables them.
    Either way, it's worth a shot.

    Yeah, easy to test the theory out. It would help figure out how to fix it. ;) --
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