• Any hope for USB hubs?

    From nospam@21:1/5 to briang@panix.com on Fri May 25 19:36:13 2018
    In article <pea5q7$htb$1@panix2.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
    <briang@panix.com> wrote:

    Running on a late 2011 MacBook Pro, with 2 USB ports. That can be a
    problem at times. I see USB/USB-3 hubs for sale. Might they help, or
    are there other bandwith issues to deal with?

    help with what? what peripherals are you wanting to connect?

    that macbook doesn't have usb 3, so save your money and get a powered
    usb 2 hub.

    a usb 3 hub will certainly work and be useful with another computer,
    but won't make a difference (other than bus power) with that macbook.

    it also has firewire 800 and thunderbolt, so you can easily chain
    firewire hard drives and/or get a thunderbolt dock with a variety of
    ports.

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  • From Brian Gordon@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 25 19:21:43 2018
    Running on a late 2011 MacBook Pro, with 2 USB ports. That can be a
    problem at times. I see USB/USB-3 hubs for sale. Might they help, or
    are there other bandwith issues to deal with?

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  • From David Empson@21:1/5 to nospam on Sat May 26 13:17:07 2018
    nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    In article <pea5q7$htb$1@panix2.panix.com>, Brian Gordon
    <briang@panix.com> wrote:

    Running on a late 2011 MacBook Pro, with 2 USB ports. That can be a problem at times. I see USB/USB-3 hubs for sale. Might they help, or
    are there other bandwith issues to deal with?

    help with what? what peripherals are you wanting to connect?

    that macbook doesn't have usb 3, so save your money and get a powered
    usb 2 hub.

    a usb 3 hub will certainly work and be useful with another computer,
    but won't make a difference (other than bus power) with that macbook.

    it also has firewire 800 and thunderbolt, so you can easily chain
    firewire hard drives and/or get a thunderbolt dock with a variety of
    ports.

    It is worth emphasising that a Thunderbolt dock with USB 3.0 ports will
    give you USB 3.0 on a 2011 Mac, because the dock contains its own USB controller.

    For example, I have a CalDigit Thunderbolt Station which I bought for my
    2013 MacBook Pro. It has Thunderbolt 1 in/out, three USB 3.0 ports,
    HDMI, Ethernet and audio. That dock works fine on the Early 2011 MacBook
    Pro I subsequently got second hand. There was a similar dock from Belkin
    at the time.

    You may need to install support files and/or run a new enough OS X
    version to allow all features of the dock to work - if I remember right,
    OS X supported the CalDigit dock from shortly after the release of 10.9
    but drivers were needed for 10.8.x. There was still one driver needed to
    enable extra power output for the dock's USB ports (e.g. for faster
    charging of an iPhone or iPad).

    I subsequently bought an OWC Thunderbolt 2 dock, which has more ports
    than the CalDigit (including adding a Firewire port for later models
    which don't have one). I have used it briefly on the 2011 MacBook Pro:
    it works but the extra speed of Thunderbolt 2 is wasted because the 2011
    models only have Thunderbolt 1.

    If you can find a cheaper Thunderbolt 1 dock, it would give you plenty
    of extra ports, but if you can only find Thundebolt 2 docks, they will
    work fine. (Don't get a Thunderbolt 3 dock - it requires an extra
    adapter, will cost a lot more overall, and you won't benefit from the
    extra speed.)

    Any variant of Thunderbolt dock is going to cost more than a USB 2.0 hub
    (or even a USB 3.0 hub) so if your only problem is needing to plug in
    more than two USB peripherals and you aren't concerned about speed, then
    a powered USB 2.0 hub would be sufficient.

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    David Empson
    dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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