Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a mac to
mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either
MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It
doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

Based on the extension (.dc42), I'm assuming the images in question are DiskCopy 4.2 images.

Andre

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Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a mac to mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either
MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It
doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

Based on the extension (.dc42), I'm assuming the images in question are DiskCopy 4.2 images.

Hm... If I recall right, both 'StuffIt Expander' and 'StuffIt Archive
Manager' can do this.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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In article <pnjej2$led$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
wrote:

Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a mac to mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either
MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

Based on the extension (.dc42), I'm assuming the images in question are DiskCopy 4.2 images.

Hm... If I recall right, both 'StuffIt Expander' and 'StuffIt Archive Manager' can do this.

I hadn't thought of trying those before now, but this doesn't seem to
work.

I tried several different versions of Stuffit Expander and Stuffit
deluxe (4.5 is the latest version I had) without any luck. I'll poke
around to see if I can come up with a copy of stuffit archive manager...

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Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a macto
mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either
MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It
doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

Based on the extension (.dc42), I'm assuming the images in question are
DiskCopy 4.2 images.

Hm... If I recall right, both 'StuffIt Expander' and 'StuffIt Archive
Manager' can do this.

I hadn't thought of trying those before now, but this doesn't seem to
work.

I tried several different versions of Stuffit Expander and Stuffit
deluxe (4.5 is the latest version I had) without any luck. I'll poke
around to see if I can come up with a copy of stuffit archive manager...

If you have access to either a 68k or early PPC Mac, you can try StuffIt Expander v.3,01 on 68k or v.5.5 on a PPC. It can handle a lot of the
older image formats - including DiskCopy 4.2 and the a bit newer
DiscCopy 2 4.2. - Just open SE and select the input and output format
and then drag the image to the openj SE window...

You may also try to make a copy of original images and then rename the
copy from "xxxx.dc42" to "xxxx.img". It /may/ work, but I can't
guarantee it. - By such experiments it's alwas a good idea to work with
a copy of the original...

What I can say is that it sometimes works with old '.cpt' (CompactPro if
they are made by DiscCopy) files by renaming to '.img'.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a mac to >>> mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either
MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It
doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

Based on the extension (.dc42), I'm assuming the images in question are
DiskCopy 4.2 images.

Hm... If I recall right, both 'StuffIt Expander' and 'StuffIt Archive
Manager' can do this.

I hadn't thought of trying those before now, but this doesn't seem to
work.

I tried several different versions of Stuffit Expander and Stuffit
deluxe (4.5 is the latest version I had) without any luck. I'll poke
around to see if I can come up with a copy of stuffit archive manager...

If you have access to either a 58k or older PPC Mac, you can try StuffIt Expander v.3,01 on 68k or v.5.5 on a PPC. It can handle a lot of the
older image formats - including DiskCopy 4.2 and the a bit newer
DiscCopy 2 4.2. - Just open SE and select the input format and then drag
the image to the openj SE window...

You may also try to make a copy of original images and then rename the
copy from "xxxx.dc42" to "xxxx.img". It /may/ work, but I can't
guarantee it. - By such experiments it's alwas a good idea to work with
a copy of the original...

What I can say is that it sometimes works with old '.cpt' (CompactPro if
they are made by DiscCopy) files by renaming to '.img'.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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In article <pno80j$tju$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
wrote:

Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a macto >>> mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either >>> MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It
doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

Based on the extension (.dc42), I'm assuming the images in question are >>> DiskCopy 4.2 images.

Hm... If I recall right, both 'StuffIt Expander' and 'StuffIt Archive
Manager' can do this.

I hadn't thought of trying those before now, but this doesn't seem to
work.

I tried several different versions of Stuffit Expander and Stuffit
deluxe (4.5 is the latest version I had) without any luck. I'll poke
around to see if I can come up with a copy of stuffit archive manager...

If you have access to either a 68k or early PPC Mac, you can try StuffIt Expander v.3,01 on 68k or v.5.5 on a PPC. It can handle a lot of the
older image formats - including DiskCopy 4.2 and the a bit newer
DiscCopy 2 4.2. - Just open SE and select the input and output format
and then drag the image to the openj SE window...

You may also try to make a copy of original images and then rename the
copy from "xxxx.dc42" to "xxxx.img". It /may/ work, but I can't
guarantee it. - By such experiments it's alwas a good idea to work with
a copy of the original...

What I can say is that it sometimes works with old '.cpt' (CompactPro if
they are made by DiscCopy) files by renaming to '.img'.

Cheers, Erik Richard

Just to clarify, the problem isn't with the image format, it's with the
file system on the images themselves which is the lisa file system. Old
disk copy images don't present a problem for me when they are in either
HFS(+) or MFS -- I have numerous options on sheepshaver for mounting
and/or doing file dumps of those, but to the best of my knowledge all of
these programs rely on the system software for actually dealing with the
file system itself. So I need something which understands Lisa OS.

Andre

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Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Just to clarify, the problem isn't with the image format, it's with the
file system on the images themselves which is the lisa file system. Old
disk copy images don't present a problem for me when they are in either HFS(+) or MFS -- I have numerous options on sheepshaver for mounting
and/or doing file dumps of those, but to the best of my knowledge all of these programs rely on the system software for actually dealing with the
file system itself. So I need something which understands Lisa OS.

OK, this is something else than just opening disks/images...

Seaching Google with terms "reading apple lisa os file system" gave lots
of results. Maybe some of these can help

"Who knows about the disk layout of the Lisa filesystems?"
"The Apple Lisa FAQ"
"Lisa Emulator Project - File System Tool"

<https://www.google.dk/search?ei=vsafW_7VI83WwQLp4avABQ&q=reading+apple+lisa+os+file+system&oq=reading+apple+lisa+os+file+system&gs_l=psy-ab.3...283377.289708.0.290716.2.2.0.0.0.0.186.290.0j2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.186...33i160k1.0.rgAQNgtEkJM>

Cheers, Erik Richard
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Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a mac to mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either
MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It
doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

For classic Macintosh, an application called ReadLisa will let you view the files on a Lisa disk. It's documented here: https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=444

For OS X, there is a lisafs tool part of the LisaEm application that will extract files from Lisa disks. It's here: http://lisaem.sunder.net/downloads/LisaEm-1.2.6.dmg

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On 2018-09-19 18:18:48 +0000, D Finnigan said:

Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a mac to
mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either
MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It
doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

For classic Macintosh, an application called ReadLisa will let you view the files on a Lisa disk. It's documented here: https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=444

<snip>

It's pretty much useless though since it cannot save the files nor even
let you copy-paste from plain text files ...

The application is limited to viewing files on screen only.
There is no way to copy the text, print, nor save the files
to the Macintosh disk. This limitation makes ReadLisa useful
only for looking at the contents of Lisa disks, not
transferring data from them to the Macintosh.

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D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> wrote:

Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a mac to mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either
MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

For classic Macintosh, an application called ReadLisa will let you view the files on a Lisa disk. It's documented here: https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=444

This won't actually work until either Sheepshaver or Mini vMac
implements the 'insert paperclip into drive' command. This program is a hardware hack which requires an actual, physical floppy drive and even
then it is pretty limited since you can view but not copy data from the
drive.

For OS X, there is a lisafs tool part of the LisaEm application that will extract files from Lisa disks. It's here: http://lisaem.sunder.net/downloads/LisaEm-1.2.6.dmg

This sounds more promising. Thanks for the pointer!

Andre

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Andre G. Isaak wrote:

In article <dog_cow-1537381126@macgui.com>,
D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> wrote:

Andre G. Isaak wrote:

Does anyone know of a macintosh utility which will either allow a mac
to
mount lisa disk images or which can convert lisa disk images to either
MFS or HFS(+) images while still preserving the individual files? It
doesn't matter to me which system version said utility runs on.

For classic Macintosh, an application called ReadLisa will let you view
the
files on a Lisa disk. It's documented here:
https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=444

This won't actually work until either Sheepshaver or Mini vMac
implements the 'insert paperclip into drive' command. This program is a hardware hack which requires an actual, physical floppy drive.

I wrote that article. You can use it in Mini vMac. I made the screenshots
for that article in Mini vMac, and I also used it on my real Mac 512K too.

But agree, the lisafs tool is probably the better solution.

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