I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook
G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
(over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Hello again.
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook
G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
(over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
In article <NIydnYIPK8ZOimbDnZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
classic is part of mac os x.
mac os 9 is not.
On 2020-06-30 10:45:39 +0000, Ant said:
Hello again.
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.
Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?
No, 'Classic' in OS X (up to 10.4.11) is only a controlpane which
controls OS 9.x when run in 'Classic Mode' under OS X.
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
classic is part of mac os x.
mac os 9 is not.
Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?
Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?
typically, mac os 9 and mac os x were installed on separate partitions,
but that was only needed if dual-booting was required.
Usually installed both on the same drive, but I wasn't interested in
dual booting.
In article <Zc-dnegeR_B5TGbDnZ2dnUU7-emdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >> > > G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >> > > can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade >> > > (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
classic is part of mac os x.
mac os 9 is not.
Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?
no.
classic, aka blue box, was a feature of early versions of mac os x and
what allowed it to boot and run mac os 9.
what makes it confusing is that mac system 0 through mac os 9 are known
as classic mac os.
adding to the confusion is classic (the feature) does nothing unless
mac os 9 is used to run old apps.
macs from that era usually shipped with both mac os 9 and mac os x, so
people just assumed it was a package deal, but in reality, you got two different oses with the mac.
typically, mac os 9 and mac os x were installed on separate partitions,
but that was only needed if dual-booting was required.
Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
On 2020-06-30 10:45:39 +0000, Ant said:
Hello again.
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
(over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.
Oh. Hmm.
On 2020-06-30 23:59:55 +0000, Ant said:
Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
On 2020-06-30 10:45:39 +0000, Ant said:
Hello again.
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade >>> (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.
Oh. Hmm.
Similar to running Windows in Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion on an
Intel Mac, "Classic" mode is really a virtualisation of the older
MacOS, so you need to have an install of MacOS 9 for "Classic" to work.
Whenever you first run an old app after booting in MacOS X, you'll get
a window that shows MacOS 9 booting, including the march of the control
panel icons across the bottom if you make the window bigger. You can
also start and shutdown / reboot "Classic" via the MacOS X System
Preference pane or set "Classic" start automatically when MacOS X boots.
Ant wrote:
Isn't Mac OS X's Classic basically Mac OS 9?
No, 'Classic' in OS X (up to 10.4.11) is only a controlpane which
controls OS 9.x when run in 'Classic Mode' under OS X.
This means that you'll need a Mac OS 9.1 or 9.2 retail CD to install OS 9.1/9.2.x. On the harddisk you then will get 3 new folders 'System', 'Applications (mac OS 9) and 'Documents'.
When you've finished the installation of Mac OS 9.1/9.2 go to 'System Preferences' in your OS X. Open 'Classic' to start OS 9.x within your OS
X 10.4.x. In the controlpane 'Classic' there also should be an 'Update' button. Click on this button and the OS 9.x update app will
automatically find and install needed updates for the OS 9.x. When
updating has finished, click on the 'Reboot Classic' button in the
'Classic controlpane. After this just click 'Quit Classic'.
Now in the OS X controlpanes go to the pane 'Startdisc'. Open this to
see whether your computer is able to boot into OS 9.x. If I recall right
from your original thread, your PB should be able to boot in OS 9.x.
When you have bootet into OS 9.x you can install the OS 9.x compatible
apps you want to have installed. And again restart the computer if the install app requires this.
In the OS 9.x controlpanels select 'Start Disc', select the OS X and
click on the 'Restart' button. The computer will now again boot into OS
X 10.4.x, and you can now again select 'Classic' in the
'systempreferences to start 'Classic' within OS X. - And - all the OS
9.x apps you've installed can now be run within 'Classic Mode' in OS X 10.4.x.
I presume that you've installed OS X from a DVD and not the 4-disc CD
set? If you could find such a 4-disc CD set, you will also get a full
Mac OS 9.1.0 installer on disc 4. On the CD set there are some utility
apps that isn't on a retail OS 9.1 or 9.2. - I don't have my set at hand
so I can't tell/remember these tool applications...
Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
On 2020-06-30 23:59:55 +0000, Ant said:
Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
On 2020-06-30 10:45:39 +0000, Ant said:
Hello again.
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>>>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>>>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to >>>>> clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade >>>>> (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.
Oh. Hmm.
Similar to running Windows in Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion on an
Intel Mac, "Classic" mode is really a virtualisation of the older
MacOS, so you need to have an install of MacOS 9 for "Classic" to work.
Whenever you first run an old app after booting in MacOS X, you'll get
a window that shows MacOS 9 booting, including the march of the control
panel icons across the bottom if you make the window bigger. You can
also start and shutdown / reboot "Classic" via the MacOS X System
Preference pane or set "Classic" start automatically when MacOS X boots.
Interesting. I don't recall v10.2.8 doing that but that was like 18
years ago!
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.
Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
(over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.
Hmm, I guess I will reinstall its original v10.2 that came with classic
and then retry upgrade to v10.4 to keep its classic. :(
Hello again.--
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook
G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade
(over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
On 2020-07-02 09:46:48 +0000, Ant said:
Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
I just clean installed a brand new Mac OS X Tiger v10.4 into a PowerBook >>> G4, but don't see its classic Mac OS anywhere? Am I missing something or >>> can't find it like I did in its original Mac OS X v10.2? :( I had to
clean install because of my dual Linux boot setup and Mac OS X upgrade >>> (over v10.2.8) wasn't working. :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
Classic mode and/or MacOS 9 booting requires a separate install of
MacOS 9 from a its own install disc.
Hmm, I guess I will reinstall its original v10.2 that came with classic
MacOS X 10.2 didn't come with MacOS 9 built-in either. It's always been
a optional install from a separate disc (although if you have a DVD
install disc, it may include all the separate CD dsics on the same
media).
I can't remember if the Classic system preference pane is always there,
but it is simply non-functional without MacOS 9 installed separately.
and then retry upgrade to v10.4 to keep its classic. :(
Or just install MacOS 9.2 from its own install disc.
Of course, having two versions of MacOS installed does require a lot
more hard drive space. It also uses up more RAM when Classic is running.
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