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    From =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEcuIElzYWFr?=@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 28 07:50:30 2019
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On early Mac Systems, the AppleTalk driver was called .MPP. Despite much googling and delving though Inside Macintosh, I've been unable to figure
    out what MPP actually stands for. Anyone know?

    André

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEcuIElzYWFr?=@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Thu Nov 28 08:47:50 2019
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2019-11-28 8:07 a.m., Savageduck wrote:
    On Nov 28, 2019, André G. Isaak wrote
    (in article <qromrm$2h2$1@dont-email.me>):

    On early Mac Systems, the AppleTalk driver was called .MPP. Despite much
    googling and delving though Inside Macintosh, I've been unable to figure
    out what MPP actually stands for. Anyone know?

    André

    Somehow “Mac Peer-to-Peer” comes to mind. However, that was dug out of deep recesses of my memory, and is probably something quite different.


    Hmmm. My guess was 'Macintosh Packet(?) Protocol', but that was just a
    guess. I'm trying to find something official. For all I know it's
    something entirely random, like Mezcal Party Pack.

    André

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  • From Al Kossow@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 29 11:41:41 2019
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 11/29/19 10:42 AM, André G. Isaak wrote:
    can
    confirm this?

    yes

    originally called AppleBus Protocol Package

    http://bitsavers.org/pdf/apple/networking/localtalk/AppleBus_An_Introduction_1985.pdf

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 29 15:38:23 2019
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2019-11-28 09:50, André G. Isaak wrote:
    On early Mac Systems, the AppleTalk driver was called .MPP. Despite much googling and delving though Inside Macintosh, I've been unable to figure
    out what MPP actually stands for. Anyone know?


    The fellow who designed it was not happy with the assignment. He wanted
    to work on schedulers and other real time aspects of the system.

    When he had to name the extension, he used the initials of his mother in
    law, 1 letter off. (Nancy Quincy Quartermaine).

    Apple engineering and marketing didn't catch on for a while. When they
    did the file name extension was too deeply coded and all over release candidates and too much of a mess to cleanup.


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  • From =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEcuIElzYWFr?=@21:1/5 to Al Kossow on Fri Nov 29 14:52:13 2019
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2019-11-29 12:41 p.m., Al Kossow wrote:
    On 11/29/19 10:42 AM, André G. Isaak wrote:
    can
    confirm this?

    yes

    originally called AppleBus Protocol Package

    http://bitsavers.org/pdf/apple/networking/localtalk/AppleBus_An_Introduction_1985.pdf

    Thanks!

    I had just starting sifting through the old ADC technical notes, which
    was proving quite a challenge. After finally managing to get MacWrite
    4.5 up and running I suddenly discovered I also needed MS Word 3.0. Fortunately, I no longer have to cross that hurdle!

    André

    An aside: Neither Inside Macintosh Vol. 2 nor Inside Macintosh:
    Networking answered this, but what really surprised me is that the
    expression "MPP" does not occur *anywhere* in Inside AppleTalk.

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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to J Burns on Sat Nov 30 02:01:39 2019
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In message <qrrfa9$8bu$1@dont-email.me> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
    On 11/28/19 10:47 AM, André G. Isaak wrote:
    On 2019-11-28 8:07 a.m., Savageduck wrote:
    On Nov 28, 2019, André G. Isaak wrote
    (in article <qromrm$2h2$1@dont-email.me>):

    On early Mac Systems, the AppleTalk driver was called .MPP. Despite much >>>> googling and delving though Inside Macintosh, I've been unable to figure >>>> out what MPP actually stands for. Anyone know?

    André

    Somehow “Mac Peer-to-Peer” comes to mind. However, that was dug out of >>> deep recesses of my memory, and is probably something quite different.


    Hmmm. My guess was 'Macintosh Packet(?) Protocol', but that was just a
    guess. I'm trying to find something official. For all I know it's
    something entirely random, like Mezcal Party Pack.

    André

    Macintosh Protocol Package?

    That is correct. It replaced the earlier Apple Protocol Package.

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  • From poc@pocnet.net@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Tue Dec 3 21:58:16 2019
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In comp.sys.mac.vintage Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    The fellow who designed it was not happy with the assignment. He wanted
    to work on schedulers and other real time aspects of the system.

    When he had to name the extension, he used the initials of his mother in
    law, 1 letter off. (Nancy Quincy Quartermaine).

    Apple engineering and marketing didn't catch on for a while. When they
    did the file name extension was too deeply coded and all over release candidates and too much of a mess to cleanup.

    Source?

    And, there's no "file name extension" on early Macs. The .MPP driver was included in the system file.

    :wq! PoC

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  • From poc@pocnet.net@21:1/5 to agisaak@gm.invalid on Tue Dec 3 22:08:00 2019
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In comp.sys.mac.vintage Andr G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:

    On early Mac Systems, the AppleTalk driver was called .MPP. Despite much googling and delving though Inside Macintosh, I've been unable to figure
    out what MPP actually stands for. Anyone know?

    I just searched through the original Inside Macintosh Books but I didn't find
    a word about what .MPP stands for. Maybe Macintosh Packet Protocol? Just a guess, though.

    :wq! PoC

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