• Re: What is POSID for your Reply?

    From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Dec 19 17:59:05 2021
    The 60/65/80 TurboBoard should be ID E2FEh: https://ardent-tool.com/tech/PlanarID.html#List

    On 19.12.2021 17:44, Louis Ohland wrote:
    ?

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 19 10:44:12 2021
    ?

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Sun Dec 19 12:04:57 2021
    Maybe... disable the IDE controller, install SCSI, then try the Snark?

    NamedItem Prompt "AT IDE Interface"
    choice "Primary" pos[16]=1XXXXX11b io 1F0h-1F8h
    choice "Secondary" pos[16]=1XXXXX01b io 170h-178h
    choice "Disabled" pos[16]=1XXXXXX0b

    Help
    " The on-board AT IDE interface can be configured as Primary or
    Secondary. If you select Primary, the interface will be accessed at port addresses from 1F0H to 1F8H. If you select Secondary, the port
    addresses will be from 170 to 178.

    If you don't have AT IDE fixed disk, you can select Disabled to avoid a conflict with other devices."

    On 12/19/2021 10:59, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    The 60/65/80 TurboBoard should be ID E2FEh: https://ardent-tool.com/tech/PlanarID.html#List

    On 19.12.2021 17:44, Louis Ohland wrote:
    ?


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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Dec 19 19:25:28 2021
    I don't see a conflict there.

    May be an interrupt problem too. Sharing doesn't always work...

    A complete list of the used hardware and shots of the "View
    Configuration" page (or whatever its alternative is in the PSETUP
    utility) would help.

    On 19.12.2021 19:04, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Maybe... disable the IDE controller, install SCSI, then try the Snark?

    NamedItem Prompt "AT IDE Interface"
          choice "Primary"     pos[16]=1XXXXX11b io 1F0h-1F8h
          choice "Secondary"   pos[16]=1XXXXX01b io 170h-178h
          choice "Disabled"    pos[16]=1XXXXXX0b

          Help
    " The on-board AT IDE interface can be configured as Primary or
    Secondary. If you select Primary, the interface will be accessed at port addresses from 1F0H to 1F8H.  If you select Secondary, the port
    addresses will be from 170 to 178.

     If you    don't have AT IDE fixed disk, you can select Disabled to avoid a conflict with other devices."

    On 12/19/2021 10:59, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    The 60/65/80 TurboBoard should be ID E2FEh:
    https://ardent-tool.com/tech/PlanarID.html#List

    On 19.12.2021 17:44, Louis Ohland wrote:
    ?



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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Sun Dec 19 14:32:41 2021
    That is the point. Not sure of any resources.

    Remove adapters, shut off non-essentials, get it to boot.

    Try adding Snark, see what it wandts.

    On 12/19/2021 12:25, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    I don't see a conflict there.

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  • From lharris428@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Dec 26 14:27:04 2021
    On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 3:34:29 PM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
    That is the point. Not sure of any resources.

    Remove adapters, shut off non-essentials, get it to boot.

    Try adding Snark, see what it wandts.
    On 12/19/2021 12:25, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    I don't see a conflict there.

    Hey guys, thanks for the info and content. Life got busy heading up to the holiday, but I have the next week off. The plan is to play with it and report back when I find. I managed to find a spock with 2MB and I'm going to disable onboard IDE, to
    play with that and some spare scsi drives I have kicking around, as well as other things.

    The other thing I am trying to trace down when I play Doom is that there are periodic cuts in sound or loud static. Trying to find out if there is an interrupt conflict. Also, I had to replace DOS/4GW with DOS32A for Doom II to even work. See here
    for an example, minus the IRQ issues he had in the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IASGSBgs7A&t=943s

    Do the IBM SCSI adapters do IRQ sharing? I believe the onboard IDE does and Windows95 doesn't like it from what I gather on the newsgroup. Wonder if there's issues there with the snark too.

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to lharr...@gmail.com on Sun Dec 26 18:18:46 2021
    Yes, the IBM manufactured ones do [Tribble, Spock, Corvette, Turbo
    Corvette]. The OS, that's something else.

    https://ardent-tool.com/utils/#Win_Utils

    On 12/26/2021 16:27, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
    Do the IBM SCSI adapters do IRQ sharing?

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  • From lharris428@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Dec 26 21:17:26 2021
    On Sunday, December 26, 2021 at 7:20:41 PM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Yes, the IBM manufactured ones do [Tribble, Spock, Corvette, Turbo
    Corvette]. The OS, that's something else.

    https://ardent-tool.com/utils/#Win_Utils
    On 12/26/2021 16:27, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
    Do the IBM SCSI adapters do IRQ sharing?

    Interesting, thanks for the point in the right direction with the link! Right now with just the Snark and the Spock installed, and the onboard IDE, Serial, LPT1 all disabled, SpeedSys still locks up on ISA PnP port 223

    This I want to try:
    * I have an Adaptec card that I have and see if makes things more stable.
    * I have another model 80, with a factory planar and hypertech 486 upgrade. I'll see if I get the same behavior (speedsys locking up and/or the weird sound cut outs/static with doom2, sb installer test failing for FM)
    * No other cards but the snark installed, everything else removed or disabled. I'll boot dos from a floppy and try to run speedsys and see how things
    * Test each interrupt

    As a side note, I found that the 1MB modules that came with this SPOCK that I picked up on eBay or not compatible The card wouldn't see drives and threw errors. As soon as I put in 256KB modules it would pass diags and recognize drives. /sigh

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to lharr...@gmail.com on Mon Dec 27 09:01:53 2021
    ISA PnP port 223

    I have dallied about, trying to figure out what, if any, benefits for installing MCA system components. MCA PIC, system timer, a few others.
    No discernible difference. Methinks they are merely stubs pointing to an
    ISA PnP whatsit.

    I've flittered about, trying [and failing] to understand WHAT
    information a PNP file presents to a system. Epic FAIL!

    hypertech 486 upgrade

    Gung-ho! You can't wait to get it working with a 8580 and a 386, so slap
    on a Hypertech! Add on some extra signal tomfoolery, what could go wrong?


    On 12/26/2021 23:17, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, December 26, 2021 at 7:20:41 PM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Yes, the IBM manufactured ones do [Tribble, Spock, Corvette, Turbo
    Corvette]. The OS, that's something else.

    https://ardent-tool.com/utils/#Win_Utils
    On 12/26/2021 16:27, lharr...@gmail.com wrote:
    Do the IBM SCSI adapters do IRQ sharing?

    Interesting, thanks for the point in the right direction with the link! Right now with just the Snark and the Spock installed, and the onboard IDE, Serial, LPT1 all disabled, SpeedSys still locks up on ISA PnP port 223

    This I want to try:
    * I have an Adaptec card that I have and see if makes things more stable.
    * I have another model 80, with a factory planar and hypertech 486 upgrade. I'll see if I get the same behavior (speedsys locking up and/or the weird sound cut outs/static with doom2, sb installer test failing for FM)
    * No other cards but the snark installed, everything else removed or disabled. I'll boot dos from a floppy and try to run speedsys and see how things
    * Test each interrupt

    As a side note, I found that the 1MB modules that came with this SPOCK that I picked up on eBay or not compatible The card wouldn't see drives and threw errors. As soon as I put in 256KB modules it would pass diags and recognize drives. /sigh

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