• Looking for IBM TCP/IP for DOS

    From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 8 23:14:54 2021
    Anyone?

    Ideally version 2.1.

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  • From James Hall@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Wed Dec 8 16:16:39 2021
    On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:14:55 PM UTC-5, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Anyone?

    Ideally version 2.1.
    Try here: https://californiasoftwaresystems.com/ts/tcp-ip/

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to James Hall on Thu Dec 9 10:36:46 2021
    Thanks James, but that's Microsoft Network Client. I'm looking for the
    IBM one.

    On 09.12.2021 1:16, James Hall wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:14:55 PM UTC-5, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Anyone?

    Ideally version 2.1.
    Try here: https://californiasoftwaresystems.com/ts/tcp-ip/


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  • From James Hall@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Thu Dec 9 04:34:19 2021
    On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 4:36:48 AM UTC-5, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Thanks James, but that's Microsoft Network Client. I'm looking for the
    IBM one.
    On 09.12.2021 1:16, James Hall wrote:
    On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:14:55 PM UTC-5, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Anyone?

    Ideally version 2.1.
    Try here: https://californiasoftwaresystems.com/ts/tcp-ip/

    Sorry Tomas. I'll keep hunting.

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  • From Wolfgang Gehl@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 12 14:23:27 2021
    Am 09.12.21 um 10:36 schrieb Tomas Slavotinek:
    Thanks James, but that's Microsoft Network Client. I'm looking for the
    IBM one.



    Hi Thomas,

    not so easy to find.

    IBM TCP/IP' was part of the 'IBM DOS LAN Services' which were bundled
    with 'IBM LAN Server'.

    The 'IBM LAN Server 4.0' CD contains 'IBM TCP/IP 2.1.1', which seems to
    be the latest TCP/IP version for DOS developed by IBM itself.

    The 'IBM Warp Server 4.0' CD contains TCP/IP 3.18 for DOS from Network TeleSystem (NTS).

    IBM TCP/IP updates: web.archive.org/web/19961219072341/http://www.pc.ibm.com/cgi-bin/listftp?sorttype=date&dir=29

    There is an 'IBM LAN Client 3.0' with TCP/IP support under Win3.1x. It
    is limited to IBM network hardware: https://web.archive.org/web/20031003053027/http://www.networking.ibm.com/trl/trlclnt.html

    I don't know what you are actually trying to do with TCP/IP for DOS. My personal experience is that you are better off using network programs
    that have the WATTCP stack embedded, e.g. the mTCP suite: https://www.brutman.com/mTCP/
    These applications do not eat the available RAM and release the RAM used
    for network access when you close them.

    Regards

    Wolfgang

    Read more about it:
    http://www.cspry.co.uk/computing/dos_net.html https://www.os2museum.com/wp/dos-smb-client-performance/ http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Networking_FreeDOS_-_History_of_DOS_networking

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Wolfgang Gehl on Sun Dec 12 20:31:44 2021
    Thanks for the links, Wolf! The list of "TCP/IP updates" may have
    something relevant.

    I'm asking for a friend actually, so I don't know all the details... but
    yeah, not easy to find at all.

    On 12.12.2021 14:23, Wolfgang Gehl wrote:
    Am 09.12.21 um 10:36 schrieb Tomas Slavotinek:
    Thanks James, but that's Microsoft Network Client. I'm looking for the
    IBM one.



    Hi Thomas,

    not so easy to find.

    IBM TCP/IP' was part of the 'IBM DOS LAN Services' which were bundled
    with 'IBM LAN Server'.

    The 'IBM LAN Server 4.0' CD contains 'IBM TCP/IP 2.1.1', which seems to
    be the latest TCP/IP version for DOS developed by IBM itself.

    The 'IBM Warp Server 4.0' CD contains TCP/IP 3.18 for DOS from Network TeleSystem (NTS).

    IBM TCP/IP updates: web.archive.org/web/19961219072341/http://www.pc.ibm.com/cgi-bin/listftp?sorttype=date&dir=29


    There is an 'IBM LAN Client 3.0' with TCP/IP support under Win3.1x. It
    is limited to IBM network hardware: https://web.archive.org/web/20031003053027/http://www.networking.ibm.com/trl/trlclnt.html


    I don't know what you are actually trying to do with TCP/IP for DOS. My personal experience is that you are better off using network programs
    that have the WATTCP stack embedded, e.g. the mTCP suite: https://www.brutman.com/mTCP/
    These applications do not eat the available RAM and release the RAM used
    for network access when you close them.

    Regards

    Wolfgang

    Read more about it:
    http://www.cspry.co.uk/computing/dos_net.html https://www.os2museum.com/wp/dos-smb-client-performance/ http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Networking_FreeDOS_-_History_of_DOS_networking





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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Sun Dec 12 14:36:17 2021
    Not that I am interested... yeah, famous pick-up line...

    On 12/12/2021 13:31, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    I'm asking for a friend

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  • From James Hall@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Dec 12 13:29:17 2021
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 3:37:57 PM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Not that I am interested... yeah, famous pick-up line...
    On 12/12/2021 13:31, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    I'm asking for a friend

    I have a shrink wrapped Box with IBM LAN Enabler, version 2.0. (It was buried in the archives.) It's not doing any good shrink wrapped, so I've anyone is interested, I can post an image of the 3.5" disk somewhere or email the same.

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  • From James Hall@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Dec 12 13:24:27 2021
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 3:37:57 PM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Not that I am interested... yeah, famous pick-up line...
    On 12/12/2021 13:31, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    I'm asking for a friend

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to James Hall on Sun Dec 12 14:34:18 2021
    On 12/12/21 2:29 PM, James Hall wrote:
    I have a shrink wrapped Box with IBM LAN Enabler, version 2.0. (It
    was buried in the archives.) It's not doing any good shrink wrapped,
    so I've anyone is interested, I can post an image of the 3.5" disk
    somewhere or email the same.

    I'd like to know more about the IBM LAN Enabler.



    --
    Grant. . . .
    unix || die

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 12 16:49:39 2021
    On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 14:36:17 -0600, Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net>
    wrote:

    Not that I am interested... yeah, famous pick-up line...

    On 12/12/2021 13:31, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    I'm asking for a friend

    "Yeah baby, come home with me and I will show you my PCP/IP".

    "How much PCP is in your IP"?

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Sun Dec 12 16:45:24 2021
    Well, first, it actually existed [good]

    https://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/8/897/ENUS292-248/index.html

    LAN Enabler 2.0, 0S/2 LAN Server 2.0 Softcopy Library

    Snippet from IBM Systems Journal:

    The IBM LAN Enabler 2.0 offers the OS/2 Requester, LAN Support Program,
    and DOS LAN Requester (DLR) - identical in function to the requesters
    included with the IBM OS/2 LAN Server 2.0 - in a separate licensed
    program. Connectivity to 80286 and 80386 workstations is enabled,
    including OS/2 LAN Server 2.0, Microsoft LAN Manager 2.0, and other
    compatible servers. This allows users of IBM OS/2 2.0 to access NetBios, NDIS-based and 802.2-based subsystems at an economical price.

    IBM OS/2 LAN Server 2.0 Softcopy Library provides the publications for
    OS/2 LAN Server 2.0 on 3.5-inch media. These publications are displayed
    using BookMaster® READ products.

    Highlights:
    • Enables OS/2 workstations to run
    NetBios, NDIS, and 802.2 applications
    without LAN Server 2.0 or
    Extended Services/2
    • Provides connectivity to 80286
    and 80386 workstations, including
    LAN Server 2.0, Microsoft LAN
    Manager 2.0, and other compatible
    servers
    • OS/2 LAN Server 2.0 Softcopy
    Library is now available in diskette
    form, for use with BookManager™ READ products.


    Letter# 292-248, April 28, 1992


    On 12/12/2021 15:34, Grant Taylor wrote:
    IBM LAN Enabler

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 12 17:44:17 2021
    The IBM LAN Enabler 2.0 offers the OS/2 (R) Requester, LAN
    Support Program and DOS LAN Requester (DLR), identical in function to
    the requesters included with the IBM OS/2 LAN Server 2.0, in a
    separate licensed program.

    5871-AAA 2881 96F8359 IBM LAN Enabler 2.0 3.5-inch

    5870-EAD 2909 96F8359 IBM LAN Enabler 2.0 3.5-inch

    Don't know if the OS/2 LS 2.0 products are stand-alone, or if the LAN
    Enabler stuff is stand-alone.

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  • From James Hall@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Dec 12 16:25:23 2021
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 6:45:58 PM UTC-5, Louis Ohland wrote:
    The IBM LAN Enabler 2.0 offers the OS/2 (R) Requester, LAN
    Support Program and DOS LAN Requester (DLR), identical in function to
    the requesters included with the IBM OS/2 LAN Server 2.0, in a
    separate licensed program.

    5871-AAA 2881 96F8359 IBM LAN Enabler 2.0 3.5-inch

    5870-EAD 2909 96F8359 IBM LAN Enabler 2.0 3.5-inch

    Don't know if the OS/2 LS 2.0 products are stand-alone, or if the LAN
    Enabler stuff is stand-alone.


    I'll work on uploading to https://archive.org tomorrow. I'll report back when completed.

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Dec 12 18:50:44 2021
    On 12/12/21 4:44 PM, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Don't know if the OS/2 LS 2.0 products are stand-alone, or if the LAN
    Enabler stuff is stand-alone.

    Interesting.

    My understanding is that the LAN Enabler is an add-on component to bring non-LAN Server up to LAN Server like functionality. As if LAN Server is
    the base component combined with LAN Enabler.



    --
    Grant. . . .
    unix || die

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  • From Grant Taylor@21:1/5 to James Hall on Mon Dec 13 09:49:34 2021
    On 12/13/21 9:20 AM, James Hall wrote:
    Diskette Files can be downloaded from this link: https://archive.org/details/os-2-lan-requester-diskette-2ibm-lan-enabler-version-2.0

    Thank you.



    --
    Grant. . . .
    unix || die

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  • From James Hall@21:1/5 to Grant Taylor on Mon Dec 13 08:20:33 2021
    On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 8:50:34 PM UTC-5, Grant Taylor wrote:
    On 12/12/21 4:44 PM, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Don't know if the OS/2 LS 2.0 products are stand-alone, or if the LAN Enabler stuff is stand-alone.
    Interesting.

    My understanding is that the LAN Enabler is an add-on component to bring non-LAN Server up to LAN Server like functionality. As if LAN Server is
    the base component combined with LAN Enabler.
    --
    Grant. . . .
    unix || die


    Diskette Files can be downloaded from this link: https://archive.org/details/os-2-lan-requester-diskette-2ibm-lan-enabler-version-2.0

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