I have a question for ya all (and especially for Louis). Should I remove
the "of Capitalism" part from the title and call the website simply
"Ardent Tool"?
Why? Well, "Ardent Tool" is shorter, it's what most people call the
website anyway, and it would match the URL.
(I've already removed the "9595" prefix from the title earlier this year since the website is about everything PS/2 and Micro Channel, and not
just the mighty 9595...)
What do you think?
I have a question for ya all (and especially for Louis). Should I removeI'd leave it. PS/2s are (planned to be) proprietary as hell. (I wonder what IBM Engineers would say back then to the todays Apple vs. Right to Repair situation...) You may recreate some MCA-Cards. But the Systems itself are paved with highly customized
the "of Capitalism" part from the title and call the website simply
"Ardent Tool"?
Why? Well, "Ardent Tool" is shorter, it's what most people call the
website anyway, and it would match the URL.
(I've already removed the "9595" prefix from the title earlier this year since the website is about everything PS/2 and Micro Channel, and not
just the mighty 9595...)
What do you think?
Young'uns always in such a hurry to create a new world... forget the
past, and are surprised when they re-discover it.
The Personal System/2 was and is a Ardent [Willing and Energetic] Tool [machine and follower] of... Capitalism. IBM made the PS/2 for business,
not so much pleasure.
On 8/16/2021 15:52, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
I have a question for ya all (and especially for Louis). Should I remove
the "of Capitalism" part from the title and call the website simply
"Ardent Tool"?
Why? Well, "Ardent Tool" is shorter, it's what most people call the
website anyway, and it would match the URL.
(I've already removed the "9595" prefix from the title earlier this year
since the website is about everything PS/2 and Micro Channel, and not
just the mighty 9595...)
What do you think?
Tomas Slavotinek schrieb am Montag, 16. August 2021 um 22:52:09 UTC+2:integrated logic. Even the damn PSs are blessed with that shit :-/ So, yes, they were made for business, but also made only servicable for IBM itself. Capitalism-Level-Achievment unlocked.
I have a question for ya all (and especially for Louis). Should I removeI'd leave it. PS/2s are (planned to be) proprietary as hell. (I wonder what IBM Engineers would say back then to the todays Apple vs. Right to Repair situation...) You may recreate some MCA-Cards. But the Systems itself are paved with highly customized
the "of Capitalism" part from the title and call the website simply
"Ardent Tool"?
Why? Well, "Ardent Tool" is shorter, it's what most people call the
website anyway, and it would match the URL.
(I've already removed the "9595" prefix from the title earlier this year
since the website is about everything PS/2 and Micro Channel, and not
just the mighty 9595...)
What do you think?
PS/2s are (planned to be) proprietary as hell.
Er. I've never felt that "proprietary" was correct. The architecture was documented down to timing values. If you payed IBM royalties, they'd
sell you whatever you wanted. IBM sunk a lot of money into engineering a superior computer bus. The ISA bus was a cloner's paradise, think of the
term "proprietary" as FUD.
Think of all of the Apple clones. Did Apple encourage the clones?
You want real proprietary, look at NCR's implementation of MCA. While
MCA may be implemented in different ways, if the adapters from another
system won't fit in the MCA slot, that is most likely proprietary.
On 8/17/2021 13:45, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
PS/2s are (planned to be) proprietary as hell.
Er. I've never felt that "proprietary" was correct. The architecture was documented down to timing values. If you payed IBM royalties, they'dI know. But it was a turn when you think of the open IBM PC Platform. IBM documented many PS/2 Thingys, but to no usable Level, i think. I've read many Books and technical Docs, but these pop bags were always aware not to tell you everything ;) Regarding
sell you whatever you wanted. IBM sunk a lot of money into engineering a superior computer bus. The ISA bus was a cloner's paradise, think of the term "proprietary" as FUD.
Think of all of the Apple clones. Did Apple encourage the clones?
You want real proprietary, look at NCR's implementation of MCA. While
MCA may be implemented in different ways, if the adapters from another system won't fit in the MCA slot, that is most likely proprietary.
On 8/17/2021 13:45, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
PS/2s are (planned to be) proprietary as hell.
open IBM PC Platform
What boils my blood is when people compare MCA and EISA
and call the former "proprietary" and the latter "open". Right...
Just what exists for the EISA hobbyist community these days, specifically any repository of CFG files and EISA utilities to configure the systems? - As I say, it is ironic that much of my exposure to EISA is through the IBM PC Server series.
BTW, I'm going to keep the introduction of the 'Ardent-Tool' as just that in my YouTube videos...
Methinks you are still konfuzed. Or is that me? Dunno.
The "ISA" standard was enthusiastically interpreted, whether with common components or ASICS, the only looser was IBM.
On 8/18/2021 18:32, schimmi wrote:
Louis Ohland schrieb am Mittwoch, 18. August 2021 um 03:50:04 UTC+2:
Open? Or just not enforced?Hm, good question :) What do you think of these 5150/5170 with all the 74LS back then - and in contrast - the first PS/2s? Sure it was enforced. To use non-standard components. To build the ultimate Capitalism Machine :D
On 8/17/2021 14:44, schimmi wrote:
open IBM PC Platform
Open? Or just not enforced?Hm, good question :) What do you think of these 5150/5170 with all the 74LS back then - and in contrast - the first PS/2s? Sure it was enforced. To use non-standard components. To build the ultimate Capitalism Machine :D
On 8/17/2021 14:44, schimmi wrote:
open IBM PC Platform
Louis Ohland schrieb am Mittwoch, 18. August 2021 um 03:50:04 UTC+2:
Open? Or just not enforced?Hm, good question :) What do you think of these 5150/5170 with all the 74LS back then - and in contrast - the first PS/2s? Sure it was enforced. To use non-standard components. To build the ultimate Capitalism Machine :D
On 8/17/2021 14:44, schimmi wrote:
open IBM PC Platform
Young'uns always in such a hurry to create a new world... forget the
past, and are surprised when they re-discover it.
The Personal System/2 was and is a Ardent [Willing and Energetic] Tool [machine and follower] of... Capitalism. IBM made the PS/2 for business,
not so much pleasure.
On 8/16/2021 15:52, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
I have a question for ya all (and especially for Louis). Should I remove
the "of Capitalism" part from the title and call the website simply
"Ardent Tool"?
Why? Well, "Ardent Tool" is shorter, it's what most people call the
website anyway, and it would match the URL.
(I've already removed the "9595" prefix from the title earlier this year
since the website is about everything PS/2 and Micro Channel, and not
just the mighty 9595...)
What do you think?
they need to be reminded about prune and graft times
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