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  • HP Support = Dumpster fire

    From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 07:15:45 2023
    Researching PCIe ethernet for my latest forlorn hope. My, that HP quad
    port looks beefy... Way over spec, but it's frugal. Let's search for
    what it is... Uh oh, HP support... Warning, Will Robinson! Warning!

    If Carly Fiorina could have made HP support useable, I'd have gladly
    voted for her. Epic FAIL... Better yet, anything over ten years old is
    not supported. In my experience, anything over ten years old is memory
    holed.

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  • From IBMMuseum@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 08:28:31 2023
    Researching PCIe ethernet for my latest forlorn hope. My, that HP quad
    port looks beefy... Way over spec, but it's frugal. Let's search for
    what it is... Uh oh, HP support... Warning, Will Robinson! Warning!

    People use those quad-port NICs (Intel chipset) with a SFF system to make firewalls under pfSense and OPNsense. They do the job well. But overwise, it is overkill for you.

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to IBMMuseum on Fri Feb 3 10:58:49 2023
    When I feel that my lashed-up system is TOO fast, I'll take your
    suggestion and think about it.

    What NON HP and/or Dell NICs resemble my desired adapter? I want
    someplace with an actual support site with files...

    IBMMuseum wrote:
    People use those quad-port NICs (Intel chipset) with a SFF system to make firewalls under pfSense and OPNsense. They do the job well. But overwise, it is overkill for you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Fri Feb 3 18:46:58 2023
    On 03.02.2023 17:58, Louis Ohland wrote:
    When I feel that my lashed-up system is TOO fast, I'll take your
    suggestion and think about it.

    What NON HP and/or Dell NICs resemble my desired adapter? I want
    someplace with an actual support site with files...

    IBMMuseum wrote:
    People use those quad-port NICs (Intel chipset) with a SFF system to
    make firewalls under pfSense and OPNsense. They do the job well. But
    overwise, it is overkill for you.

    Yeah, these days it's essentially:

    HP = no support
    Dell = minimal support

    But it depends on the product type and market segment, so YMMV.

    Intel has a decent support for legacy products, including NICs.

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to IBMMuseum on Fri Feb 3 13:36:49 2023
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 4:25:21 PM UTC-5, IBMMuseum wrote:
    Yeah, these days it's essentially:

    HP = no support
    Dell = minimal support

    But it depends on the product type and market segment, so YMMV.

    Intel has a decent support for legacy products, including NICs.
    Don't forget Lenovo - the ThinkCentres from the time of the hand-off aren't found on their site, but it seems to be a moderate amount of support for the legacy products since.


    Microsoft and strait talk, You speaky Enlish ,? I speaky very gooot. I know understandy?
    Can you find me someone who speaks english.. will try to do better... whut ur problem...
    I know undeerstand problem,,, ?????????????????????????????????? HELP!!

    then they refer you to self help questions... press 1 press 5 you are better off googling it.. always...

    If their support is of no value. I just return the item... Why pay for something that you cannot use.. or even connect..

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From IBMMuseum@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 3 13:25:20 2023
    Yeah, these days it's essentially:

    HP = no support
    Dell = minimal support

    But it depends on the product type and market segment, so YMMV.

    Intel has a decent support for legacy products, including NICs.

    Don't forget Lenovo - the ThinkCentres from the time of the hand-off aren't found on their site, but it seems to be a moderate amount of support for the legacy products since.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From schimmi@21:1/5 to richard smice on Wed Feb 8 10:43:18 2023
    richard smice schrieb am Freitag, 3. Februar 2023 um 22:36:50 UTC+1:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 4:25:21 PM UTC-5, IBMMuseum wrote:
    Yeah, these days it's essentially:

    HP = no support
    Dell = minimal support

    But it depends on the product type and market segment, so YMMV.

    Intel has a decent support for legacy products, including NICs.
    Don't forget Lenovo - the ThinkCentres from the time of the hand-off aren't found on their site, but it seems to be a moderate amount of support for the legacy products since.
    Microsoft and strait talk, You speaky Enlish ,? I speaky very gooot. I know understandy?
    Can you find me someone who speaks english.. will try to do better... whut ur problem...
    I know undeerstand problem,,, ?????????????????????????????????? HELP!!

    then they refer you to self help questions... press 1 press 5 you are better off googling it.. always...

    If their support is of no value. I just return the item... Why pay for something that you cannot use.. or even connect..
    From my point of view:
    HP -> Support only with a contract (e.g. Server BIOS Updates) and they dumped all of my beloved HPUX-content :(
    DELL -> kina OK, no support contract needed
    Intel -> dumped a lot of legacy stuff; use https://archive.org/details/downloadcenter.intel.com instead

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  • From moussa@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Thu Feb 9 09:43:31 2023
    On 3/2/23 21:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Researching PCIe ethernet for my latest forlorn hope. My, that HP quad
    port looks beefy... Way over spec, but it's frugal. Let's search for
    what it is... Uh oh, HP support... Warning, Will Robinson! Warning!

    If Carly Fiorina could have made HP support useable, I'd have gladly
    voted for her. Epic FAIL... Better yet, anything over ten years old is
    not supported. In my experience, anything over ten years old is memory
    holed.
    My son spent good money for one of those cards of Ehay
    , I only needed another single port NIC.

    https://fireinfo.ipfire.org/profile/690c956f972a51feaf4a312c29774b7a635ac92c

    Best firewall I have ever built.

    --
    Moussa

    "People alike with a similar circumstances, tend to find each
    others across space and time, given enough time in life, no
    matter distance, language, race, colour and believes" (c) MEK
    *** Do Not Copy, Duplicate or Use without my Permission ***

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From moussa@21:1/5 to moussa on Thu Feb 9 10:05:33 2023
    On 9/2/23 09:43, moussa wrote:
    On 3/2/23 21:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Researching PCIe ethernet for my latest forlorn hope. My, that HP quad
    port looks beefy... Way over spec, but it's frugal. Let's search for
    what it is... Uh oh, HP support... Warning, Will Robinson! Warning!

    If Carly Fiorina could have made HP support useable, I'd have gladly
    voted for her. Epic FAIL... Better yet, anything over ten years old is
    not supported. In my experience, anything over ten years old is memory
    holed.
    My son spent good money for one of those cards of Ehay
    , I only needed another single port NIC.

    https://fireinfo.ipfire.org/profile/690c956f972a51feaf4a312c29774b7a635ac92c

    Best firewall I have ever built.

    Louis, is it possible for you to PM a picture of the card?
    I maybe able to help you with the drivers etc...

    --
    Moussa

    "People alike with a similar circumstances, tend to find each
    others across space and time, given enough time in life, no
    matter distance, language, race, colour and believes" (c) MEK
    *** Do Not Copy, Duplicate or Use without my Permission ***

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to moussa on Wed Feb 8 20:47:53 2023
    I wendt with the Plugable USB3-E1000.

    The bigger issue right now is NTLM 2 support.

    http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/W98-Win7/W98_Win7_Direct_Connect_Ethernet.html

    moussa wrote:
    On 9/2/23 09:43, moussa wrote:
    On 3/2/23 21:15, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Researching PCIe ethernet for my latest forlorn hope. My, that HP
    quad port looks beefy... Way over spec, but it's frugal. Let's search
    for what it is... Uh oh, HP support... Warning, Will Robinson! Warning!

    If Carly Fiorina could have made HP support useable, I'd have gladly
    voted for her. Epic FAIL... Better yet, anything over ten years old
    is not supported. In my experience, anything over ten years old is
    memory holed.
    My son spent good money for one of those cards of Ehay
    , I only needed another single port NIC.

    https://fireinfo.ipfire.org/profile/690c956f972a51feaf4a312c29774b7a635ac92c >>

    Best firewall I have ever built.

    Louis, is it possible for you to PM a picture of the card?
    I maybe able to help you with the drivers etc...


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