• Update: Mitac MPS3000F / Memorex Telex 7270 / Olivetti P700

    From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 10 14:02:15 2022
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well: https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines,
    please let me know.

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Sun Sep 11 16:38:31 2022
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well: https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines,
    please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server?
    Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer companies struggling for sale during this
    period...

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to richard smice on Mon Sep 12 03:26:41 2022
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 1:38:32 AM UTC+2, richard smice wrote:
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server?
    Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer companies struggling for sale during this
    period...

    Nope, never even heard of some of these. Hopefully, we will be able to document them one day...

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  • From Kevin Bowling@21:1/5 to richard smice on Mon Sep 12 05:08:44 2022
    On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines,
    please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server?
    Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer companies struggling for sale during this
    period...

    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some
    early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later
    NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s.

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to Kevin Bowling on Mon Sep 12 09:46:25 2022
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 8:08:46 AM UTC-4, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines,
    please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server?
    Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer companies struggling for sale during this
    period...
    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some
    early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later
    NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s.
    This is a link to the leading edge specs and board layout fot their MCA computer

    https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/leading-edge-pro-model-d3-mc

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to richard smice on Mon Sep 12 12:10:04 2022
    The slot illustration is kinked. 3x 32 bit slots, 1x 16-bit w/ave

    The slots do not appear to be properly aligned. Looks more like 3x
    16-bit w/AVE, and one 32-bit slot w/AVE. Or sump'tin like that.

    Not sensible, a 386SX with a 32-bit slot.

    Methinks 3x 16-bit slots, and 1x 16-bit w/AVE.

    richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 8:08:46 AM UTC-4, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines,
    please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server?
    Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer companies struggling for sale during this
    period...
    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some
    early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later
    NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s.
    This is a link to the leading edge specs and board layout fot their MCA computer

    https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/leading-edge-pro-model-d3-mc


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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Mon Sep 12 12:15:25 2022
    Oops, other sites and period articles say 386DX.

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    The slot illustration is kinked. 3x 32 bit slots, 1x 16-bit w/ave

    The slots do not appear to be properly aligned. Looks more like 3x
    16-bit w/AVE, and one 32-bit slot w/AVE. Or sump'tin like that.

    Not sensible, a 386SX with a 32-bit slot.

    Methinks 3x 16-bit slots, and 1x 16-bit w/AVE.

    richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 8:08:46 AM UTC-4, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas
    Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines, >>>>> please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server? >>>> Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer
    or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer
    companies struggling for sale during this
    period...
    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some
    early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later
    NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s.
       This is a link to the leading edge  specs and board layout fot
    their MCA  computer

    https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/leading-edge-pro-model-d3-mc


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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Mon Sep 12 12:17:12 2022
    https://books.google.com/books?id=l3Z0ZgEexGEC&pg=PT171&lpg=PT171&dq=Mitac+MPS3000F&source=bl&ots=_8kFdLSVMr&sig=ACfU3U1HURz-y0ZB5ZeCge6cc74dLxWy3w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAp8r434_6AhXshYkEHbSyBVYQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=Mitac%20MPS3000F&f=false

    Page 151

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    Oops, other sites and period articles say 386DX.

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    The slot illustration is kinked. 3x 32 bit slots, 1x 16-bit w/ave

    The slots do not appear to be properly aligned. Looks more like 3x
    16-bit w/AVE, and one 32-bit slot w/AVE. Or sump'tin like that.

    Not sensible, a 386SX with a 32-bit slot.

    Methinks 3x 16-bit slots, and 1x 16-bit w/AVE.

    richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 8:08:46 AM UTC-4, Kevin Bowling wrote: >>>> On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas
    Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines, >>>>>> please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server? >>>>> Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer
    or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer
    companies struggling for sale during this
    period...
    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some >>>> early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later >>>> NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s.
       This is a link to the leading edge  specs and board layout fot
    their MCA  computer

    https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/leading-edge-pro-model-d3-mc


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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Mon Sep 12 12:03:16 2022
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 1:16:42 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=l3Z0ZgEexGEC&pg=PT171&lpg=PT171&dq=Mitac+MPS3000F&source=bl&ots=_8kFdLSVMr&sig=ACfU3U1HURz-y0ZB5ZeCge6cc74dLxWy3w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAp8r434_6AhXshYkEHbSyBVYQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=Mitac%20MPS3000F&f=false

    Page 151
    Louis Ohland wrote:
    Oops, other sites and period articles say 386DX.

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    The slot illustration is kinked. 3x 32 bit slots, 1x 16-bit w/ave

    The slots do not appear to be properly aligned. Looks more like 3x
    16-bit w/AVE, and one 32-bit slot w/AVE. Or sump'tin like that.

    Not sensible, a 386SX with a 32-bit slot.

    Methinks 3x 16-bit slots, and 1x 16-bit w/AVE.

    richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 8:08:46 AM UTC-4, Kevin Bowling wrote: >>>> On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas
    Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines, >>>>>> please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server? >>>>> Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer >>>>> or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer
    companies struggling for sale during this
    period...
    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some >>>> early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later >>>> NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s.
    This is a link to the leading edge specs and board layout fot
    their MCA computer

    https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/leading-edge-pro-model-d3-mc

    It also looks like dells executive mca computer was a olivetti or vise versa

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  • From JWR@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Mon Sep 12 21:02:51 2022
    On 12-09-2022 19:17, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=l3Z0ZgEexGEC&pg=PT171&lpg=PT171&dq=Mitac+MPS3000F&source=bl&ots=_8kFdLSVMr&sig=ACfU3U1HURz-y0ZB5ZeCge6cc74dLxWy3w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAp8r434_6AhXshYkEHbSyBVYQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=Mitac%20MPS3000F&f=false

    Page 151

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    Oops, other sites and period articles say 386DX.

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    The slot illustration is kinked. 3x 32 bit slots, 1x 16-bit w/ave

    The slots do not appear to be properly aligned. Looks more like 3x 16-bit w/AVE, and one 32-bit slot w/AVE. Or sump'tin like that.

    Not sensible, a 386SX with a 32-bit slot.

    Methinks 3x 16-bit slots, and 1x 16-bit w/AVE.

    richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 8:08:46 AM UTC-4, Kevin Bowling wrote: >>>>> On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines, >>>>>>> please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server? >>>>>> Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer companies struggling for sale during this
    period...
    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some >>>>> early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later >>>>> NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s.
       This is a link to the leading edge  specs and board layout fot their MCA  computer

    https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/leading-edge-pro-model-d3-mc


    PC Mag 25 Sep 1990 : https://books.google.nl/books?id=tqJbouvq9SkC&pg=PT18&lpg=PT18&dq=LEADING+EDGE+PRODUCTS,+INC.+MODEL+D3/MC&source=bl&ots=ojRbPstmaw&sig=ACfU3U31bgKvf7L5vlXoNXUFw1dzqhdiHQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGo-2M9Y_6AhUy_7sIHXP_DAQQ6AF6BAgaEAM#v=onepage&q=LEADING%
    20EDGE%20PRODUCTS%2C%20INC.%20MODEL%20D3%2FMC&f=false

    'Like the IBM Model 55SX, the Model D3/MC is 386SX-based. But the D3/MC comes with four MCA compatible expansion slots, and hard drive models come with the SCSI controller standard. (With IBM, it's an option.)'

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to richard smice on Mon Sep 12 12:08:05 2022
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 3:03:17 PM UTC-4, richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 1:16:42 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=l3Z0ZgEexGEC&pg=PT171&lpg=PT171&dq=Mitac+MPS3000F&source=bl&ots=_8kFdLSVMr&sig=ACfU3U1HURz-y0ZB5ZeCge6cc74dLxWy3w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAp8r434_6AhXshYkEHbSyBVYQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=Mitac%20MPS3000F&f=false

    Page 151
    Louis Ohland wrote:
    Oops, other sites and period articles say 386DX.

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    The slot illustration is kinked. 3x 32 bit slots, 1x 16-bit w/ave

    The slots do not appear to be properly aligned. Looks more like 3x
    16-bit w/AVE, and one 32-bit slot w/AVE. Or sump'tin like that.

    Not sensible, a 386SX with a 32-bit slot.

    Methinks 3x 16-bit slots, and 1x 16-bit w/AVE.

    richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 8:08:46 AM UTC-4, Kevin Bowling wrote: >>>> On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas
    Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems... >>>>>>
    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines, >>>>>> please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server?
    Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer >>>>> or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer
    companies struggling for sale during this
    period...
    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some
    early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later
    NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s.
    This is a link to the leading edge specs and board layout fot
    their MCA computer

    https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/leading-edge-pro-model-d3-mc

    It also looks like dells executive mca computer was a olivetti or vise versa
    I have a few large ALR video cards that have the ava mca bus but do not work in anything but an alr computer
    and a couple of different Antex audio cards that I could never get working..

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to JWR on Mon Sep 12 12:04:14 2022
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 3:02:54 PM UTC-4, JWR wrote:
    On 12-09-2022 19:17, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=l3Z0ZgEexGEC&pg=PT171&lpg=PT171&dq=Mitac+MPS3000F&source=bl&ots=_8kFdLSVMr&sig=ACfU3U1HURz-y0ZB5ZeCge6cc74dLxWy3w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAp8r434_6AhXshYkEHbSyBVYQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=Mitac%20MPS3000F&f=false

    Page 151

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    Oops, other sites and period articles say 386DX.

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    The slot illustration is kinked. 3x 32 bit slots, 1x 16-bit w/ave

    The slots do not appear to be properly aligned. Looks more like 3x 16-bit w/AVE, and one 32-bit slot w/AVE. Or sump'tin like that.

    Not sensible, a 386SX with a 32-bit slot.

    Methinks 3x 16-bit slots, and 1x 16-bit w/AVE.

    richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 8:08:46 AM UTC-4, Kevin Bowling wrote: >>>>> On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems... >>>>>>>
    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines, >>>>>>> please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server?
    Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer companies struggling for sale during this
    period...
    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some
    early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later
    NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s.
    This is a link to the leading edge specs and board layout fot their MCA computer

    https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/leading-edge-pro-model-d3-mc >>>>
    PC Mag 25 Sep 1990 : https://books.google.nl/books?id=tqJbouvq9SkC&pg=PT18&lpg=PT18&dq=LEADING+EDGE+PRODUCTS,+INC.+MODEL+D3/MC&source=bl&ots=ojRbPstmaw&sig=ACfU3U31bgKvf7L5vlXoNXUFw1dzqhdiHQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGo-2M9Y_6AhUy_7sIHXP_DAQQ6AF6BAgaEAM#v=onepage&q=LEADING%
    20EDGE%20PRODUCTS%2C%20INC.%20MODEL%20D3%2FMC&f=false

    'Like the IBM Model 55SX, the Model D3/MC is 386SX-based. But the D3/MC comes with four MCA compatible expansion slots, and hard drive models come with the SCSI controller standard. (With IBM, it's an option.)'

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to richard smice on Mon Sep 12 12:24:20 2022
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 3:08:06 PM UTC-4, richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 3:03:17 PM UTC-4, richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 1:16:42 PM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=l3Z0ZgEexGEC&pg=PT171&lpg=PT171&dq=Mitac+MPS3000F&source=bl&ots=_8kFdLSVMr&sig=ACfU3U1HURz-y0ZB5ZeCge6cc74dLxWy3w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAp8r434_6AhXshYkEHbSyBVYQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=Mitac%20MPS3000F&f=false

    Page 151
    Louis Ohland wrote:
    Oops, other sites and period articles say 386DX.

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    The slot illustration is kinked. 3x 32 bit slots, 1x 16-bit w/ave

    The slots do not appear to be properly aligned. Looks more like 3x
    16-bit w/AVE, and one 32-bit slot w/AVE. Or sump'tin like that.

    Not sensible, a 386SX with a 32-bit slot.

    Methinks 3x 16-bit slots, and 1x 16-bit w/AVE.

    richard smice wrote:
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 8:08:46 AM UTC-4, Kevin Bowling wrote:
    On 9/11/22 16:38, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas
    Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well:
    https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems... >>>>>>
    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines,
    please let me know.
    Has anyone on this sight ever seen a Sequent Microchannel Unix server?
    Or grid ? 5000 logo desktop computer other than me.
    I think that my mca Everex computer may be a re badge wang computer >>>>> or tulip computer.
    there were so many mergers or bought out or failed computer
    companies struggling for sale during this
    period...
    I know who Sequent is but never heard of them using MCA. They made some
    early SMP machines (I think 386 and National Semi 32000) and then later
    NUMA systems and eventually got bought up by IBM in the late 90s. >>> This is a link to the leading edge specs and board layout fot
    their MCA computer

    https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/leading-edge-pro-model-d3-mc >>>
    It also looks like dells executive mca computer was a olivetti or vise versa
    I have a few large ALR video cards that have the ava mca bus but do not work in anything but an alr computer
    and a couple of different Antex audio cards that I could never get working..
    I have a whole bunch of JMC jameco other brand microchannel development perf, video and riser.cards etc... That came from my area.... Home of IBM... If someone wants pictures and to post them ... IBM made Transistors for the Appolo program here
    in Owego (ibm ) plant ; now lockheed martin...

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to richard smice on Mon Sep 12 14:42:17 2022
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:24:21 PM UTC+2, richard smice wrote:
    <snip>
    I have a whole bunch of JMC jameco other brand microchannel development perf, video and riser.cards etc... That came from my area.... Home of IBM... If someone wants pictures and to post them ... IBM made Transistors for the Appolo program here
    in Owego (ibm ) plant ; now lockheed martin...

    Pics? Heck yea! Don't even ask and spam my inbox... :)

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to JWR on Mon Sep 12 14:40:33 2022
    On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 9:02:54 PM UTC+2, JWR wrote:
    <snip>

    'Like the IBM Model 55SX, the Model D3/MC is 386SX-based. But the D3/MC comes with four MCA compatible expansion slots, and hard drive models come with the SCSI controller standard. (With IBM, it's an option.)'

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

    Yeah, the Leading Edge D3/MC appears to be a different design. Looking at the outline it's probably supposed to be 3x 16-bit slot and 1x 16-bit slot with AVE. These outlines are way too crude and inaccurate for our purposes. A photo would be needed...

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Fri Sep 16 05:09:22 2022
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well: https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines,
    please let me know.
    OK this is the link to grids 386 Microchannel system...... Grid Desk /386mc https://books.google.com/books?id=2jkWJsu_9CoC&pg=RA1-PA51&dq=Grid-Desk+386mc+computer&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZvM6qopn6AhU3g4kEHX4rBz8Q6AF6BAgDEAI#v=onepage&q=Grid-Desk%20386mc%20computer&f=false

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to richard smice on Fri Sep 16 05:36:15 2022
    On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 8:09:23 AM UTC-4, richard smice wrote:
    On Saturday, September 10, 2022 at 8:02:18 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    And the Mitac MPS3000F page is up as well: https://ardent-tool.com/Mitac/MPS3000F.html

    No refdisk unfortunately. Not even the Olivetti one it seems...

    If anyone has the diskette or any additional info on these machines, please let me know.
    OK this is the link to grids 386 Microchannel system...... Grid Desk /386mc https://books.google.com/books?id=2jkWJsu_9CoC&pg=RA1-PA51&dq=Grid-Desk+386mc+computer&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZvM6qopn6AhU3g4kEHX4rBz8Q6AF6BAgDEAI#v=onepage&q=Grid-Desk%20386mc%20computer&f=false
    OK! This is a link for a IBM Sequent server.. It turns out that both Ibm and sequent servers were sold by Ibm
    after they purchased sequent. https://www.google.com/search?q=ibm+sequent+NUMA-Q+microchannel+server&sxsrf=ALiCzsZ7Pg-ahnyeteP3tj9MBw-NLqRTzQ%3A1663330575986&ei=D2kkY4_jO5ihiLMPtcWIyAQ&ved=0ahUKEwjPpoChpZn6AhWYEGIAHbUiAkkQ4dUDCA0&oq=ibm+sequent+NUMA-Q+
    microchannel+server&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAwyBwgAEB4QogQyBwgAEB4QogQ6CggAEEcQ1gQQsAM6CgghEMMEEAoQoAFKBQg8EgExSgQIQRgASgQIRhgAUJcNWMMcYPkpaAFwAXgAgAG8AYgB2wKSAQMwLjKYAQCgAQKgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz#imgrc=i92f42RavqLPxM

    There was one of these at Singer Link that was running old military software package called Aida

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to richard smice on Fri Sep 16 11:42:22 2022
    There was a language, "ADA"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)

    richard smice wrote:
    There was one of these at Singer Link that was running old military software package called Aida

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  • From RickE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 16 11:31:36 2022
    At the risk of continuing to draw the original topic into the hedges, I'll give my opinion of the IBM/Sequent deal... IBM "bought them to bury them". With a purchase price of less than a billion, it was a "good deal" for IBM to rid themselves of a
    competitor.

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to ekb...@vnet.ibm.com on Fri Sep 16 12:41:01 2022
    On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:31:37 PM UTC-4, ekb...@vnet.ibm.com wrote:
    At the risk of continuing to draw the original topic into the hedges, I'll give my opinion of the IBM/Sequent deal... IBM "bought them to bury them". With a purchase price of less than a billion, it was a "good deal" for IBM to rid themselves of a
    competitor.

    \
    It was kinda funny back then...

    Singer link pioneered in the hard drive market.. For themselves

    I had scrapped out some hard disks that were in use back then... The were between 2 and four feet in diameter

    with multiple plattens with all cast aluminum parts.. "giant record players" LOL

    super clean packages... Back then there was bubble memory.. I have had grid computers that used bubble memory.

    Also Copiers; Savin was big in this area... They had large Solinium disks that held toner...

    I used to clean them with gasoline.... They would work well as long as they were used every day.
    otherwise the drums would get caked up and clog up.. I have scrapped thousands of them.
    Most worked but just got very dirty if they were not used regularly.

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