• Re: Oh. I have a PCI Mini Tower...

    From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Thu Aug 18 10:53:46 2022
    https://support.hpe.com/hpesc/public/docDisplay?docId=emr_na-c00342797

    Description

    The DEFPA adapters provide 100 Mbits-per-second FDDI LAN connectivity
    for any PCI V2.1-compliant host platform and are backward compatible
    with any PCI V2.0-compliant host platform. The DAS (Dual Attachment
    Station) options can be connected as DAS, SAS (Single Attachment
    Station), or dual homed adapters. Both SAS and DAS options can operate
    in full duplex mode (OFF by default) when connected point-to-point with
    a cooperating full duplex adapter or FDDI switch.

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    Been so long since I've had a PCI bussed Desktop or Mini Tower...

    I wonder if this Dell Optiplex 7010 supports a PCI FDDI adapter.

           FDDI
    7010 <------> 9590  Direct connect, maybe an FDDI switch...

    There isn't a USB FDDI adapter... Laptops don't have much for expansion....

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 10:38:22 2022
    Been so long since I've had a PCI bussed Desktop or Mini Tower...

    I wonder if this Dell Optiplex 7010 supports a PCI FDDI adapter.

    FDDI
    7010 <------> 9590 Direct connect, maybe an FDDI switch...

    There isn't a USB FDDI adapter... Laptops don't have much for expansion....

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Thu Aug 18 18:30:07 2022
    That's another thing I like about these OptiPlexes (OptiPlexi?) ...they
    still give you one classic PCI slot.

    On 18.08.2022 17:38, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Been so long since I've had a PCI bussed Desktop or Mini Tower...

    I wonder if this Dell Optiplex 7010 supports a PCI FDDI adapter.

           FDDI
    7010 <------> 9590  Direct connect, maybe an FDDI switch...

    There isn't a USB FDDI adapter... Laptops don't have much for expansion....

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to schimmi on Thu Aug 18 15:13:55 2022
    Mini Tower, full height cards. So what cards will work?

    PCI 2.3 32-bits

    PCIe x1 one PCI Express lane
    PCIe x16 (wired as x4) 4 PCI Express lanes
    PCIe x16 16 PCI express lanes

    PCI 2.3 data width (maximum) – 32 bits:
    Mini-Tower and Desktop
    one 120-pin connector

    PCI Express x1 data width (maximum) – one PCI Express lane:
    Mini-Tower and Desktop
    one 36-pin connector

    PCI Express x16 (wired as x4) data width (maximum) – four PCI Express lanes:
    Mini-Tower, Desktop, Small Form Factor
    one 164-pin connector

    PCI Express x16 data width (maximum) – 16 PCI Express lanes:
    Mini-Tower, Desktop, Small Form Factor
    one 164-pin connector




    schimmi wrote:
    Depends on the formfactor the Optiplex comes (USFF/SFF/DT/MT) - not all of them have expansions slots.

    For PCIe-only systems you might add something like https://www.exsys-shop.de/shopware/media/pdf/c5/9d/7f/datenblatt_datasheet_ex-1010.pdf

    Tomas Slavotinek schrieb am Donnerstag, 18. August 2022 um 18:30:09 UTC+2:
    That's another thing I like about these OptiPlexes (OptiPlexi?) ...they
    still give you one classic PCI slot.
    On 18.08.2022 17:38, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Been so long since I've had a PCI bussed Desktop or Mini Tower...

    I wonder if this Dell Optiplex 7010 supports a PCI FDDI adapter.

    FDDI
    7010 <------> 9590 Direct connect, maybe an FDDI switch...

    There isn't a USB FDDI adapter... Laptops don't have much for expansion....

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  • From schimmi@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Thu Aug 18 12:32:58 2022
    Depends on the formfactor the Optiplex comes (USFF/SFF/DT/MT) - not all of them have expansions slots.

    For PCIe-only systems you might add something like https://www.exsys-shop.de/shopware/media/pdf/c5/9d/7f/datenblatt_datasheet_ex-1010.pdf

    Tomas Slavotinek schrieb am Donnerstag, 18. August 2022 um 18:30:09 UTC+2:
    That's another thing I like about these OptiPlexes (OptiPlexi?) ...they
    still give you one classic PCI slot.
    On 18.08.2022 17:38, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Been so long since I've had a PCI bussed Desktop or Mini Tower...

    I wonder if this Dell Optiplex 7010 supports a PCI FDDI adapter.

    FDDI
    7010 <------> 9590 Direct connect, maybe an FDDI switch...

    There isn't a USB FDDI adapter... Laptops don't have much for expansion....

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Thu Aug 18 22:58:28 2022
    That looks like a standard 32-bit PCI adapter. Should be compatible. But
    I can't comment on the driver support.

    Is this the machine/mobo you have?

    https://www.pocitarna.cz/user/shop/big/5369-3_dell-optiplex-7010-mini-tower.jpg

    On 18.08.2022 22:22, Louis Ohland wrote:
    NETELLIGENT 100 FDDI PCI ?

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    PCI 2.3

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Thu Aug 18 22:53:20 2022
    Pretty much everything will work. Maybe except for some 64-bit PCI(-X) adapters... but many of these will work even in a 32-bit slot (similar
    to 16/32-bit MCA adapters).

    And yeah it depends on the formfactor and generation of the machine of
    course. But even most SFF OptiPlexi have expansion slots - low-profile
    only but certainůy better than nothing. Most 2nd and 3rd gen Core
    systems dropped classic PCI and legacy ports... not these boxes. And
    they are really reliable and rather well designed too - especially for a
    Dell machine.

    On 18.08.2022 22:13, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Mini Tower, full height cards. So what cards will work?

    PCI 2.3 32-bits

    PCIe x1 one PCI Express lane
    PCIe x16 (wired as x4) 4 PCI Express lanes
    PCIe x16 16 PCI express lanes

    PCI 2.3 data width (maximum) – 32 bits:
    Mini-Tower and Desktop
    one 120-pin connector

    PCI Express x1 data width (maximum) – one PCI Express lane:
    Mini-Tower and Desktop
    one 36-pin connector

    PCI Express x16 (wired as x4) data width (maximum) – four PCI Express
    lanes:
    Mini-Tower, Desktop, Small Form Factor
    one 164-pin connector

    PCI Express x16 data width (maximum) – 16 PCI Express lanes:
    Mini-Tower, Desktop, Small Form Factor
    one 164-pin connector




    schimmi wrote:
    Depends on the formfactor the Optiplex comes (USFF/SFF/DT/MT) - not
    all of them have expansions slots.

    For PCIe-only systems you might add something like
    https://www.exsys-shop.de/shopware/media/pdf/c5/9d/7f/datenblatt_datasheet_ex-1010.pdf


    Tomas Slavotinek schrieb am Donnerstag, 18. August 2022 um 18:30:09
    UTC+2:
    That's another thing I like about these OptiPlexes (OptiPlexi?) ...they
    still give you one classic PCI slot.
    On 18.08.2022 17:38, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Been so long since I've had a PCI bussed Desktop or Mini Tower...

    I wonder if this Dell Optiplex 7010 supports a PCI FDDI adapter.

            FDDI
    7010 <------> 9590  Direct connect, maybe an FDDI switch...

    There isn't a USB FDDI adapter... Laptops don't have much for
    expansion....

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Thu Aug 18 15:22:03 2022
    NETELLIGENT 100 FDDI PCI ?

    Louis Ohland wrote:
    PCI 2.3

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  • From gfretwell@aol.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 18 19:01:47 2022
    On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 15:13:55 -0500, Louis Ohland <ohland@charter.net>
    wrote:

    Mini Tower, full height cards. So what cards will work?

    PCI 2.3 32-bits

    PCIe x1 one PCI Express lane
    PCIe x16 (wired as x4) 4 PCI Express lanes
    PCIe x16 16 PCI express lanes

    PCI 2.3 data width (maximum) – 32 bits:
    Mini-Tower and Desktop
    I have a bunch of these Dells. That was what my wife's office ran and
    they chucked old ones every time MS released a new version of Windoze.
    I just assume if the card fits it should work if you have the right
    driver. It usually turns out to be true. The driver hunt can be
    daunting if Dell doesn't have them at dell.com and Dell has been
    flushing their older driver files. Good luck.

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