• Updated ATI 8514 Ultra page

    From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 31 09:50:00 2022
    http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

    Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF, foundt
    live links for ATI Graphics controller images.

    Nothing new for drivers.

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Mon Jan 31 18:23:07 2022
    Louis, pls, use threads... :/

    But nice work otherwise.

    I'm gonna do the outlines. Was the photo from Alexandros
    clipped/resized? If so, send me the original please.

    On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
    http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

    Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF, foundt
    live links for ATI Graphics controller images.

    Nothing new for drivers.

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Mon Jan 31 11:38:55 2022
    Tom, I know your eyes are full of tears. Get me a tissue...

    When you come up with snippets, do what you wanna do... Top post, bottom
    post, cross post, cross dress, whatever.

    Row of children sitting quietly, not moving, perfectly immobile.

    Is threads = control ?

    On 1/31/2022 11:23, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Louis, pls, use threads... :/

    But nice work otherwise.

    I'm gonna do the outlines. Was the photo from Alexandros
    clipped/resized? If so, send me the original please.

    On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
    http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

    Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF,
    foundt live links for ATI Graphics controller images.

    Nothing new for drivers.


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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Mon Jan 31 19:06:35 2022
    On 31.01.2022 18:38, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Is threads = control ?

    Oh c'mon, it just makes things less messy.

    Sure if a thread gets too long/wide/deep/whatever, then why not create a
    new one. But not everyone is interested into bits and bobs of ATI 8514
    Ultra, so no need to have 50 different threads about it IMHO.

    Just a suggestion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Mon Jan 31 15:11:54 2022
    Mile wide and inch deep?

    What if someone searches for a phrase that oddly is included in the
    message title?

    So... what is the difference between re-naming a message in a thread,
    -OR- just making a massage with a different title?

    On 1/31/2022 12:06, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    too long/wide/deep/whatever

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Mon Jan 31 22:55:20 2022
    On 31.01.2022 22:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Mile wide and inch deep?

    What if someone searches for a phrase that oddly is included in the
    message title?

    So... what is the difference between re-naming a message in a thread,
    -OR- just making a massage with a different title?

    On 1/31/2022 12:06, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    too long/wide/deep/whatever


    Honestly, I thought the difference was obvious. Maybe your client
    doesn't support threading properly? (Thunderbird may not be the best
    newsreader but it supports threads relatively well, and even Google
    Groups supports it)

    If you post all related stuff to the same thread, the entire discussion
    tree takes only one top-level slot/line (unless you expand it). So, if
    somebody isn't interested in a particular topic, he/she/it can simply
    ignore that line (and perhaps mark it as read) and move to the next one
    to see what else is new. It can be rather annoying when you have to
    munch through multiple top-level posts that are all touching on the same general topic. Unrelated topics posted somewhere in the middle of the "avalanche" can be easily missed.

    Threading also makes sure that all related info stays grouped together,
    even if the thread gets necro'd some 5 years later.

    There are other reasons as well. The stuff I've mentioned is what I see
    as most beneficial here.

    Some may say it's an "unwritten rule"... I'd call it a good practice.
    But I understand that everyone has somewhat different preferences/habits
    when it comes to stuff like this.

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Feb 1 01:25:05 2022
    Changes merged in, outlines and photos added, page cleaned up/reorganized...

    https://ardent-tool.com/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

    On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
    http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

    Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF, foundt
    live links for ATI Graphics controller images.

    Nothing new for drivers.

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Mon Jan 31 21:24:07 2022
    Huh, what's U2, LM339 Quad Voltage Comparator doing on the adapter module?

    On 1/31/2022 18:25, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Changes merged in, outlines and photos added, page cleaned
    up/reorganized...

    https://ardent-tool.com/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

    On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
    http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

    Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF,
    foundt live links for ATI Graphics controller images.

    Nothing new for drivers.


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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Feb 1 11:49:15 2022
    I'd say monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the
    monitor ID bits).

    The TO-92 part (REG1) is most likely a reference for the DAC.

    On 01.02.2022 4:24, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Huh, what's U2, LM339 Quad Voltage Comparator doing on the adapter module?

    On 1/31/2022 18:25, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Changes merged in, outlines and photos added, page cleaned
    up/reorganized...

    https://ardent-tool.com/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

    On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
    http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

    Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF,
    foundt live links for ATI Graphics controller images.

    Nothing new for drivers.


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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Feb 1 14:14:46 2022
    Yep.

    On 01.02.2022 14:06, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Sensing to do what? Presence/absence of a monitor?

    On 2/1/2022 04:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the monitor
    ID bits).


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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Tue Feb 1 07:06:08 2022
    Sensing to do what? Presence/absence of a monitor?

    On 2/1/2022 04:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the monitor ID bits).

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Tue Feb 1 07:16:32 2022
    What happens if there is no monitor attached?

    On 2/1/2022 07:14, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Yep.

    On 01.02.2022 14:06, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Sensing to do what? Presence/absence of a monitor?

    On 2/1/2022 04:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the monitor
    ID bits).



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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Feb 1 14:31:31 2022
    I assume it defaults to the Base Video monitor output. At least for the
    VGA modes...

    And it probably sets some register flag(s) as well.

    On 01.02.2022 14:16, Louis Ohland wrote:
    What happens if there is no monitor attached?

    On 2/1/2022 07:14, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Yep.

    On 01.02.2022 14:06, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Sensing to do what? Presence/absence of a monitor?

    On 2/1/2022 04:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the monitor
    ID bits).




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