• Network cables to guest network like wireless on Netgear R6300 v1 route

    From Ant@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 9 18:05:33 2016
    XPost: alt.comp.networking.routers

    Hello.

    Is it possible to have network cables connect to guest network like
    wireless connections on an updated Netgear R6300 v1 router? If so, then
    how?

    Thank you in advance. :)
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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Jul 9 18:44:14 2016
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    Ant wrote:

    Is it possible to have network cables connect to guest network like
    wireless connections on an updated Netgear R6300 v1 router? If so, then
    how?

    Not sure what you are asking. Do you want to chain routers together?
    Cables don't connect to networks. They connect devices. "... cables
    connect to guest network ...". Guest network WHAT? Another router? A
    switch? A gateway?

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  • From Char Jackson@21:1/5 to Ant on Sat Jul 9 22:07:06 2016
    XPost: alt.comp.networking.routers

    On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:05:33 -0500, ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:

    Hello.

    Is it possible to have network cables connect to guest network like
    wireless connections on an updated Netgear R6300 v1 router?

    You should assume 'No' unless you find something that very specifically says 'Yes' in your router manual. You can mostly get that kind of functionality
    with some third party firmwares, but it's highly doubtful that OEM firmware will allow wired connections to connect to anything but the main network.

    If so, then how?

    Configurable VLANs might do it, but that's what I'm guessing your router doesn't have. Take a look at your manual.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to VanguardLH on Sun Jul 10 01:27:40 2016
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    In alt.comp.networking.routers VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Ant wrote:

    Is it possible to have network cables connect to guest network like wireless connections on an updated Netgear R6300 v1 router? If so, then how?

    Not sure what you are asking. Do you want to chain routers together?
    Cables don't connect to networks. They connect devices. "... cables
    connect to guest network ...". Guest network WHAT? Another router? A switch? A gateway?

    Like wireless guest AP for guests to join, but with network cables. I
    want to keep the network separated for network cable users.
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Char Jackson on Sun Jul 10 01:29:10 2016
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    In alt.comp.networking.routers Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:05:33 -0500, ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:

    Hello.

    Is it possible to have network cables connect to guest network like >wireless connections on an updated Netgear R6300 v1 router?

    You should assume 'No' unless you find something that very specifically says 'Yes' in your router manual. You can mostly get that kind of functionality with some third party firmwares, but it's highly doubtful that OEM firmware will allow wired connections to connect to anything but the main network.

    If so, then how?

    Configurable VLANs might do it, but that's what I'm guessing your router doesn't have. Take a look at your manual.

    http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/R6300/R6300_UM_1Jun12.pdf
    doesn't mention anything about VLANs so no I guess. :(
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  • From GlowingBlueMist@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Jul 10 01:32:53 2016
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    On 7/10/2016 1:29 AM, Ant wrote:
    In alt.comp.networking.routers Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 09 Jul 2016 18:05:33 -0500, ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) wrote:

    Hello.

    Is it possible to have network cables connect to guest network like
    wireless connections on an updated Netgear R6300 v1 router?

    You should assume 'No' unless you find something that very specifically says >> 'Yes' in your router manual. You can mostly get that kind of functionality >> with some third party firmwares, but it's highly doubtful that OEM firmware >> will allow wired connections to connect to anything but the main network.

    If so, then how?

    Configurable VLANs might do it, but that's what I'm guessing your router
    doesn't have. Take a look at your manual.

    http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/R6300/R6300_UM_1Jun12.pdf
    doesn't mention anything about VLANs so no I guess. :(

    Looks like the only way to do it with your router would be to change the firmware to DD-WRT as the chart here shows your router being supported. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices

    Then go here https://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Tutorials and look
    for the VLAN Detached Networks entry in the advanced tutorials section.

    Good luck

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to GlowingBlueMist on Sun Jul 10 12:07:07 2016
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    In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking GlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io> wrote:

    Is it possible to have network cables connect to guest network like
    wireless connections on an updated Netgear R6300 v1 router?

    You should assume 'No' unless you find something that very specifically says
    'Yes' in your router manual. You can mostly get that kind of functionality >> with some third party firmwares, but it's highly doubtful that OEM firmware
    will allow wired connections to connect to anything but the main network.

    If so, then how?

    Configurable VLANs might do it, but that's what I'm guessing your router >> doesn't have. Take a look at your manual.

    http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/R6300/R6300_UM_1Jun12.pdf doesn't mention anything about VLANs so no I guess. :(

    Looks like the only way to do it with your router would be to change the firmware to DD-WRT as the chart here shows your router being supported. http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices

    Then go here https://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Tutorials and look
    for the VLAN Detached Networks entry in the advanced tutorials section.

    Thanks. :(
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 11 19:53:46 2016
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    Is it possible to have network cables connect to guest network like
    wireless connections on an updated Netgear R6300 v1 router? If so, then >>> how?

    Not sure what you are asking. Do you want to chain routers together?
    Cables don't connect to networks. They connect devices. "... cables
    connect to guest network ...". Guest network WHAT? Another router? A
    switch? A gateway?

    Like wireless guest AP for guests to join, but with network cables. I
    want to keep the network separated for network cable users.

    Does the router let you subnet its port and wifi connects? It does subnetting, it may also provide a choice if the subnet is private or
    shared. Another possibility are the virtual networks that Char
    mentioned -- oops just read your reply and your router doesn't do VLANs
    so it probably doesn't do subnetting, either. The router has its own
    subnet mask specified but I'm talking about putting ports and wifi into
    their own subnets (aka segments).

    I have no idea, but then I am not a network expert. http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/R6300/R6300_UM_1Jun12.pdf
    mentions maskings though.


    I haven't played with enough wifi routers to know if some routers let
    you subnet them differently than subnets for the wired ports. I had a
    DLink ages ago (it died from heat after a little over 2 years) that let
    me isolate each wired port. Didn't even have to bother with subnetting
    which probably means it was a feature of the router's built-in firewall.
    I missed that feature when I had to replace with a Linksys. Just
    because the family shared the router didn't mean I wanted their traffic
    on my network [subnet]. Basically it looked like 4 routers similarly configured for each wired network. Didn't see a similar firewall
    feature in the manual to which you linked.

    Wow, died from heat? How hot was the room temperatures? My rooms got up
    to 90F degrees during the crazy heat waves. :(
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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Jul 11 20:28:14 2016
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    Ant wrote:

    Wow, died from heat? How hot was the room temperatures? My rooms got up
    to 90F degrees during the crazy heat waves. :(

    Except for rack mounted routers, they use passive cooling. Just an
    undersized heatsink trying to dissipate heated air through tiny holes in
    the case. That is why they recommend against stacking their units
    despite they even provide case recesses to allow stacking. Over time,
    and with no active cooling (e.g., fan), the dust collects on the
    heatsink (and other PCB components) which is a thermal insulator. They
    die after 2-5 years simply because their brains got cooked. Consumer
    grade Dlinks last around 2-3 years. Linksys lasts longer but I've had
    to replace those, too. Look at LCD TVs or monitors and routers. The
    monitors are vertically oriented, have more dead space inside, and the
    heated air gets to rise and escape through larger vents. In contrast,
    routers have their PCB horizontally oriented, the dead space is maybe an
    inch high, if that, and the air cannot get through those tiny case holes
    (so so flow is established by the movement of heated air out the top
    bringing in cool air at the bottom). If you want better air flow, you
    have to drill out the case holes in the router to enlarge them and also
    be sure to include holes at the bottom so outside air can be drawn but
    assumes the air can get around the PCB since the case probably comes
    right up to the PCB.

    Having an air conditioned room only procrastinates death from bad air
    flow design. No, I do not operate my house rooms at the frigid
    temperatures of a computer room; however, there is enough air
    conditioning so temps and humidity are within a range that is
    comfortable for me. In comparison, my computers never die due to
    overheating because I design them with decent air flow plus they are
    monitored unlike routers that bake away without any alert.

    Typically you'll notice flaky connections. You think there is a problem
    with your ISP but that's not it since a direct connection from computer
    to modem (bypassing the router) works just fine. The flaky outages
    start increasing in occurence and duration until one day you'll be damn
    lucky to get any connection.

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  • From VanguardLH@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Jul 10 15:04:14 2016
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    Ant wrote:

    In alt.comp.networking.routers VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Ant wrote:

    Is it possible to have network cables connect to guest network like
    wireless connections on an updated Netgear R6300 v1 router? If so, then
    how?

    Not sure what you are asking. Do you want to chain routers together?
    Cables don't connect to networks. They connect devices. "... cables
    connect to guest network ...". Guest network WHAT? Another router? A
    switch? A gateway?

    Like wireless guest AP for guests to join, but with network cables. I
    want to keep the network separated for network cable users.

    Does the router let you subnet its port and wifi connects? It does
    subnetting, it may also provide a choice if the subnet is private or
    shared. Another possibility are the virtual networks that Char
    mentioned -- oops just read your reply and your router doesn't do VLANs
    so it probably doesn't do subnetting, either. The router has its own
    subnet mask specified but I'm talking about putting ports and wifi into
    their own subnets (aka segments).

    I haven't played with enough wifi routers to know if some routers let
    you subnet them differently than subnets for the wired ports. I had a
    DLink ages ago (it died from heat after a little over 2 years) that let
    me isolate each wired port. Didn't even have to bother with subnetting
    which probably means it was a feature of the router's built-in firewall.
    I missed that feature when I had to replace with a Linksys. Just
    because the family shared the router didn't mean I wanted their traffic
    on my network [subnet]. Basically it looked like 4 routers similarly configured for each wired network. Didn't see a similar firewall
    feature in the manual to which you linked.

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