• Risks Digest 31.25 (2/2)

    From RISKS List Owner@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 17 15:58:29 2019
    [continued from previous message]

    in the 50s there were a number of orphans from the war. The mass housing
    projects began in the 60s, they were completed in the 70s, and by the 70s,
    there were homeless people, but they often had genuine issues with mental
    health.

    Now let's take a look at what happens after the USSR collapse:

    * Life expectancy decreases by 10 years. 7.7 million excess deaths
    in the first year.

    * 40% of population drops into poverty.

    * GDP instantly halves.

    * One in ten children now live on the streets. Infant mortality increases.
    Was 29.3 in 2003 which is around (current) Syria and Micronesia, 7.9 in
    2013. Infant mortality in USSR was 1.92, literally the lowest in the
    world.

    * 1996 election rigged by the US, Yeltsin sends in tanks to disperse the
    supreme soviet.

    For an overview of the soviet experiment, watch this brilliant talk by
    Micheal Parenti, or read his article, Left anticommunism, the unkindest cut.

    Also read this great article by Stephen Gowans, Do publicly owned, planned economies work?. Audio on youtube

    Bonus vid about cyber-communism: Paul Cockshott, Going beyond money.

    More sources: Socialism Crash Course, Socialism FAQ, Glossary.

    Follow this link for the above references:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/99o8mw/minimum_wage/

    a profound discouragement to technical innovation

    That is the propaganda. The reality is (as discussed above):

    If you follow the Reddit links, then you will find that all of the above statements are supported with factual documentation. None of your statements come with any factual support.

    I am happy to continue the debate, but please can we stick to facts only
    and leave out the opinion and propaganda?

    Note: I am not suggesting that Communism is the ideal. I prefer G.K.Chesterton's Distributism to either Capitalism or Communism.

    ------------------------------

    Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:11:11 -0800
    From: RISKS-request@csl.sri.com
    Subject: Abridged info on RISKS (comp.risks)

    The ACM RISKS Forum is a MODERATED digest. Its Usenet manifestation is
    comp.risks, the feed for which is donated by panix.com as of June 2011.
    SUBSCRIPTIONS: The mailman Web interface can be used directly to
    subscribe and unsubscribe:
    http://mls.csl.sri.com/mailman/listinfo/risks

    SUBMISSIONS: to risks@CSL.sri.com with meaningful SUBJECT: line that
    includes the string `notsp'. Otherwise your message may not be read.
    *** This attention-string has never changed, but might if spammers use it.
    SPAM challenge-responses will not be honored. Instead, use an alternative
    address from which you never send mail where the address becomes public!
    The complete INFO file (submissions, default disclaimers, archive sites,
    copyright policy, etc.) is online.
    <http://www.CSL.sri.com/risksinfo.html>
    *** Contributors are assumed to have read the full info file for guidelines!

    OFFICIAL ARCHIVES: http://www.risks.org takes you to Lindsay Marshall's
    searchable html archive at newcastle:
    http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/VL.IS --> VoLume, ISsue.
    Also, ftp://ftp.sri.com/risks for the current volume
    or ftp://ftp.sri.com/VL/risks-VL.IS for previous VoLume
    If none of those work for you, the most recent issue is always at
    http://www.csl.sri.com/users/risko/risks.txt, and index at /risks-31.00
    Lindsay has also added to the Newcastle catless site a palmtop version
    of the most recent RISKS issue and a WAP version that works for many but
    not all telephones: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/w/r
    ALTERNATIVE ARCHIVES: http://seclists.org/risks/ (only since mid-2001)
    *** NOTE: If a cited URL fails, we do not try to update them. Try
    browsing on the keywords in the subject line or cited article leads.
    Apologies for what Office365 and SafeLinks may have done to URLs.
    Special Offer to Join ACM for readers of the ACM RISKS Forum:
    <http://www.acm.org/joinacm1>

    ------------------------------

    End of RISKS-FORUM Digest 31.25
    ************************

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)