My ISP gives (max) 1 Gbps connections by FTTH to homes etc. My question is, if I have *one* dwelling, say an office which needs TEN or even a HUNDRED connections, *each* of 1 Gbps,....is that possible or does that mean that they will, I donno, need moreequipment, or rewiring, or some kind of HUB nearby to make this possible? Or even dig up the ground all over again??!! They seem to have a map of the entire country, with even individual dwellings in *each house* mapped out - and they I think seem to be
If you actually needed 10Gb or 100Gb service, you'd order that from
the ISP. That is unlikely to be a standard offering for home users,
but will probably be available from their business services division, although not necessarily to every location they serve (they may not
offer that service to homes, at all, for example).
Multiple connections are a possibility, and from multiple ISPs, but
again, what services they're willing to provide to a home is an issue.
It's highly doubtful that they'd ever agree to install 100 1Gb fibers
to a single house - if they were providing 100Gb service, it would be
via a single link, or possibly a very small number (for example, you
might get 2x50Gb, although multiple lines may present routing issues
that consumer-grade routers won't deal with).
In any event, even if the ISP is providing 1Gb drops to all the homes
in your area, it's likely that there's a fair bit of sharing of a link somewhere on the way back to the rest of the Internet, and that you
and your neighbors are not going to all manage 1Gb/s simultaneously.
So if you got a bunch of those to one, you're not going to get that
multiple of bandwidth.
The real question is what application do you have in mind where you
need to run 10 or 100Gb/s to a house? In many ways this would be
similar to demanding the power company install 13.8kV/2000A service to
your house. They *can* do that - but they're not, unless you've got a
proper large factory. It's just not something they offer
residentially. Most businesses provision several Mb/s per employee
for normal Internet access, although that varies greatly on what those employees are doing. And if the business is hosting servers and such, considerable resources might be dedicated to those. Businesses that
install 100Gb services are usually provisioning fairly large
facilities.
On Monday, 30 December 2019 20:33:27 UTC+5:30, robert...@yahoo.com wrote:
If you actually needed 10Gb or 100Gb service, you'd order that from
the ISP. That is unlikely to be a standard offering for home users,
but will probably be available from their business services division,
although not necessarily to every location they serve (they may not
offer that service to homes, at all, for example).
Multiple connections are a possibility, and from multiple ISPs, but
again, what services they're willing to provide to a home is an issue.
It's highly doubtful that they'd ever agree to install 100 1Gb fibers
to a single house - if they were providing 100Gb service, it would be
via a single link, or possibly a very small number (for example, you
might get 2x50Gb, although multiple lines may present routing issues
that consumer-grade routers won't deal with).
In any event, even if the ISP is providing 1Gb drops to all the homes
in your area, it's likely that there's a fair bit of sharing of a link
somewhere on the way back to the rest of the Internet, and that you
and your neighbors are not going to all manage 1Gb/s simultaneously.
So if you got a bunch of those to one, you're not going to get that
multiple of bandwidth.
The real question is what application do you have in mind where you
need to run 10 or 100Gb/s to a house? In many ways this would be
similar to demanding the power company install 13.8kV/2000A service to
your house. They *can* do that - but they're not, unless you've got a
proper large factory. It's just not something they offer
residentially. Most businesses provision several Mb/s per employee
for normal Internet access, although that varies greatly on what those
employees are doing. And if the business is hosting servers and such,
considerable resources might be dedicated to those. Businesses that
install 100Gb services are usually provisioning fairly large
facilities.
Right, but you're not answering the question though - assume that I AM a business, not just a residence - what would my ISP have to do to get that kind of bandwidth through? If they're not wired for that already...?
10Gb and faster services are specialized. You need to talk to an ISP providing that service, and you'll often need to arrange for a fiber
to their facilities (usually you can lease a dark one), often from
some other vendor. 40Gb carrier Ethernet is commonly available in metropolitan areas, as well as other choices. SONET circuits leased
from a telco are pretty common.
If you want multiple feeds, you need to get assigned an Autonomous
System number, and a big enough block of IP addresses to be routable (generally anything smaller than a /24 won't be advertised). Then you
need to run BGP4 on the routers connecting your company to the outside
world. Slight modifications of the above for IPv6.
Typically you can get basic symmetrical 10Gb service (not BGP4) for in
the ballpark of $1000/mo, although the lease rates on the fiber might
be a fair chunk depending on the circumstances.
But you need to find a ISP in your area providing that service, and
then figure out how to get connected to them (the carrier may be able
to help). At some point you might need to pay to run the fiber
yourself, then pay for the facilities on which it runs.
10Gb and faster services are specialized. You need to talk to an ISP providing that service, and you'll often need to arrange for a fiber
to their facilities (usually you can lease a dark one), often from
some other vendor.
40Gb carrier Ethernet is commonly available in metropolitan areas,
as well as other choices. SONET circuits leased from a telco are
pretty common.
If you want multiple feeds, you need to get assigned an Autonomous
System number, and a big enough block of IP addresses to be routable (generally anything smaller than a /24 won't be advertised).
Then you need to run BGP4 on the routers connecting your company to
the outside world. Slight modifications of the above for IPv6.
But you need to find a ISP in your area providing that service,
and then figure out how to get connected to them (the carrier may be
able to help). At some point you might need to pay to run the fiber yourself, then pay for the facilities on which it runs.
There's a ton of stuff in what you said that I'm going to have to
what's a DARK fiber, btw? :)
Out of curiosity, which company's routers would you recommend for
the above job? Why? :)
On Saturday, 4 January 2020 12:15:37 UTC+5:30, robert...@yahoo.com wrote:
10Gb and faster services are specialized. You need to talk to an ISP
providing that service, and you'll often need to arrange for a fiber
to their facilities (usually you can lease a dark one), often from
some other vendor. 40Gb carrier Ethernet is commonly available in
metropolitan areas, as well as other choices. SONET circuits leased
from a telco are pretty common.
If you want multiple feeds, you need to get assigned an Autonomous
System number, and a big enough block of IP addresses to be routable
(generally anything smaller than a /24 won't be advertised). Then you
need to run BGP4 on the routers connecting your company to the outside
world. Slight modifications of the above for IPv6.
Typically you can get basic symmetrical 10Gb service (not BGP4) for in
the ballpark of $1000/mo, although the lease rates on the fiber might
be a fair chunk depending on the circumstances.
But you need to find a ISP in your area providing that service, and
then figure out how to get connected to them (the carrier may be able
to help). At some point you might need to pay to run the fiber
yourself, then pay for the facilities on which it runs.
Thanks for that answer (I'm not in America btw! :) ) There's a ton of stuff in what you said that I'm going to have to Google - what's a DARK fiber, btw? :) Out of curiosity, which company's routers would you recommend for the above job? Why? :)
There really are only a few choices for infrastructure routers at
that level, most of my experience has been with Cisco.
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