https://groups.google.com/g/comp.periphs.printers
Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or
subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
An updated web-searchable no-login web-search archive that reports a unique URL will need to be located that allows people to search before posting to the c.p.p. newsgroup & which allows unique references to recent articles.
Proper unique references for USENET posts were, BTW, not available from Google Groups for a while now (and, I'm guessing, still aren't). Those
are Message-Ids. These days, I think all you can get from Google Groups
is a link to the Google Groups interface, nothing "interoperable". At
most, you can try to use the Date: and Subject: to look the post up in a proper archive.
IMHO a decent web-based search/archival interface for posts should both support lookup by this ID and getting the ID for a given post, if it's
not already built around these IDs as message identifiers in its own
URLs and so on.
Still... there was merit in having a Usenet-only keyword search engine that was provided by dejanews (which Google took over) and which was available
to everyone with just a web browser, and which only searched Usenet and
which cost nothing which allowed the user to read the entire thread - not just one post like Howard Knight does - and which allowed users to
reference the post to others who also had only a web browser,
etc).
If you want to search before you post, then there will probably be new engines that come up, although none with the retention that Google had.
For example
http://comp.periphs.printers.narkive.com
But that web site by David Cavion is no longer maintained once he got a full-time job and now has no time to maintain it.
I saw that as a reason why he didn't finish implementing all his
desired features such as posting support, but what's wrong with
Narkive as-is for browsing/searching posts like in GG?
Using "site:comp.periphs.printers.narkive.com" at the end of a web
search query in DuckDuckGo (or probably others, but that's what I
use), you can search the group via Narkive. Its archive doesn't
include the earlier posts that Google got from Dejanews, but at
least Google is keeping them online still too, for now.
Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
I saw that as a reason why he didn't finish implementing all his
desired features such as posting support, but what's wrong with
Narkive as-is for browsing/searching posts like in GG?
Using "site:comp.periphs.printers.narkive.com" at the end of a web
search query in DuckDuckGo (or probably others, but that's what I
use), you can search the group via Narkive. Its archive doesn't
include the earlier posts that Google got from Dejanews, but at
least Google is keeping them online still too, for now.
There's another archive which isn't reported anywhere except in
this very one thread, which is https://usenetarchives.com/
But what is needed is a good set of search engines specifically tailored
for Usenet newsgroups which takes into account their header information.
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.periphs.printers
Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or
subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
But what is needed is a good set of search engines specifically tailored
for Usenet newsgroups which takes into account their header information.
OK, but that hasn't got much to do with Google Groups discontinuing
their Usenet support. Its search hasn't been very good for a long
time already.
Suppose I can remove my "X-No-Archive: Yes" now to prevent from getting
my postings archived?
Although Gmane and others might still honor it.
Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
Suppose I can remove my "X-No-Archive: Yes" now to prevent from getting
my postings archived?
Good point!
It's ironic. But it's now no longer needed for Google groups archives.
Although Gmane and others might still honor it.
Is Gmane still around?
http://gmane.org/post.php
I used to use gmane, years ago, via a normal nntp newsreader at news.gmane.org:119 blank/blank
(i.e., I didn't use the mail-to-news gateway) in order to post to gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user
gmane.linux.centos.general
etc.
But I thought that died (along with the Mozilla nntp server atnews.mozilla.org:119 blank/blank
Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
Suppose I can remove my "X-No-Archive: Yes" now to prevent from getting
my postings archived?
Good point!
It's ironic. But it's now no longer needed for Google groups archives.
Although Gmane and others might still honor it.
Is Gmane still around?
http://gmane.org/post.php
I used to use gmane, years ago, via a normal nntp newsreader at news.gmane.org:119 blank/blank
(i.e., I didn't use the mail-to-news gateway) in order to post to gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user
gmane.linux.centos.general
etc.
But I thought that died (along with the Mozilla nntp server atnews.mozilla.org:119 blank/blank
for posting to mozilla.support.firefox & mozilla.support.thunderbird
which, I think, no longer exists.
https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.firefox https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.firefox/c/SxAJiCEQZAQ
https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.thunderbird https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.thunderbird/c/LjUuhd9rYi8
In summary - aren't they both already long dead?
Now mozilla.support.seamonkey on Google Groups suffered the fate of
being flagged because of SPAM. Can you guess which server injected the
SPAM it most likely got flagged for?
https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.seamonkey
In summary - aren't they both already long dead?
(Gmane is well alive, along with gwene; for the three news.mozilla.org
groups mentioned above, there are three new groups under alt.*)
For example
http://comp.periphs.printers.narkive.com
But that web site by David Cavion is no longer maintained once he got a full-time job and now has no time to maintain it.
On 2024-02-23, Indira wrote:
For example
http://comp.periphs.printers.narkive.com
But that web site by David Cavion is no longer maintained once he got a
full-time job and now has no time to maintain it.
Narkive is proving to be useless here: I was trying to check how much it
had in the interface, if it had proper threading and so on... first few attempts to load threads gave me 500. After that I think it loaded
correctly once or twice. After that, I keep being asked to prove I'm a
human, which I guess will require javascript.
This seems to repeat itself quite often. Once it was working again, I
was able to load content only once, after that it once again calls me a
"bot" with a 429.
Let's say I'm not enjoying Narkive's current usability. It used to work
much better several months/years ago.
Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 2024-02-23, Indira wrote:
For example
http://comp.periphs.printers.narkive.com
But that web site by David Cavion is no longer maintained once he got a
full-time job and now has no time to maintain it.
Narkive is proving to be useless here: I was trying to check how much it
had in the interface, if it had proper threading and so on... first few
attempts to load threads gave me 500. After that I think it loaded
correctly once or twice. After that, I keep being asked to prove I'm a
human, which I guess will require javascript.
This seems to repeat itself quite often. Once it was working again, I
was able to load content only once, after that it once again calls me a
"bot" with a 429.
Let's say I'm not enjoying Narkive's current usability. It used to work
much better several months/years ago.
Sounds like what happens when a website is trying to combat a DDoS
attack. But I just tried it myself and it's working fast and
efficiently as ever, so either the problem's fixed or it's
something to do with your IP address or internet connection.
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